Satanic_Cabal

@AnarchSoul Enough with the purism. State capitalism? Substantial material development is a prerequisite to decommodification and a post-scarcity economy. Revisionism? Yes, being next to the US does force Cuba to put some objectives on hold. Monarchy? Not really.

None of these countries are communist. China - State Capitalism Vietnam - State Capitalism Cuba - Revisionism North Korea - Absolute Monarchy

@LuolamiesV2 @MK_Foxbat You guys seem to forget that crying and screeching is not the same as shooting bullets back.

@MK_Foxbat You don't get to cry when you decide to attack someone's home and they shoot you for it.

I don't think a better summary of 🇷🇺🇺🇦 discourse exists 🇷🇺: *Joke about how both soldiers behave/ pose in similar places* 🇺🇦: "Here is a Russian soldier being blown up." Ironically whatever shock value this might have had is entirely gone because it's your first and only response to anything.

@ChatgptLunatics Suomi is the Finnish name for their country that’s still in use today. Eestland is a hallucination for the German “Estland”. They call their country “Eesti”.

"Original names"

@VltavaBattalion @TamTamTammy3 And here’s an archived clip of Kraut participating in alt-right drama slop, which was then called “blood sports”. He had a call with known eugenicist, rapist, quack, and lolcow known as JF Gariepy (who has a lot of clout in the era). api.bitchute.com/video/aM7bqsaa…

@TamTamTammy3 Proof?

Kraut complaining about people's past history on the internet while he used to post openly fascist content

@VltavaBattalion @TamTamTammy3 Here’s a response video addressing Kraut’s fear-mongering over Muslims. It’s the same script as today really. The focus shifted from Muslims, feminists, and SJWs to leftists, communists, and Russians. youtu.be/4PuXoOvDYPE?si…

@TuoreetPyssyt @Sarcastagasm_2 @The_Clermontian @accipiter0 Regarding leftists, the difference you’re describing is that of hell and purgatory. It’s a nicer alternative, but the whole point of politics and revolution is ultimately manifesting your will. Finland got invaded because it wasn’t hard to predict 100 years of stagnation.

Yes, but "this setback came with an unexpected minor benefit" is not the same as "this was the whole plan all along". Also, "leftists were at risk of being sent to camps and had no influence in politics" is very different than "they never won a single-party majority or turn the country socialist".

Revisionism around the Winter War gets tiring at a point. It was an absurdly impressive performance by the Finnish Army, and an absurdly embarassing performance by the Red Army.

@TuoreetPyssyt @Sarcastagasm_2 @The_Clermontian @accipiter0 The plans changed as the war progressed, but the original intention was still partially realized. The same point can be made towards Mannerheim and Ryti. Was their vision of Finland actualized after the war?

@TuoreetPyssyt @Sarcastagasm_2 @The_Clermontian @accipiter0 And this doesn’t necessarily contradict my point. In the data you provided, not once did the social democrats exceed 50%. They came closest in 1916. 110 years later, Finland isn’t close to become socialist. And I’m sure the SocDems are walking a lot of things back.

The reason why the Reds turned against the USSR was because the USSR launched an indiscriminate terror campaign against Finnish civilians, including firebombing Red neighborhoods. The society did have a White bias, but you're exaggerating it. Most Reds, apart from the leaders, were pardoned very soon after the war. The Social Democratic Party - the party that started the civil war - actually held more seats in the Finnish parliament during the interwar period than at any point in the 21st century.

@TheFl0orIsLaVa Eh…the broader point is agreeable but Kasparov himself is a lolcow. Nothing about his political opinions or thought processes is the product of an independent mind. He never left the greener grass phase.

Russia keeps proving that in an authoritarian state, the most dangerous weapon is an independent mind.

@_kabibara_ @The_Davos_Man You hand-waving away the concern. Yes, I know it’s coming from Kraut, but the underlying point has legitimacy.

@Satanic_Cabal @The_Davos_Man How does any of this implies to me?

Polish GDP has trippled since Poland joined the E.U. Also, what do you think weighs heavier in the collective historic memory of Poles: 5 tough years recovering from communist damage? Or 40 years of communists doing the damage?

@TuoreetPyssyt @Sarcastagasm_2 @The_Clermontian @accipiter0 Why are you acting that it wasn’t that or being put in a camp? No leftist political project, regardless of how moderate, would have gotten off the ground for decades by that point.

@Satanic_Cabal @Sarcastagasm_2 @The_Clermontian @accipiter0 Defang the White movement by... turning the Reds against the USSR and making them unite with the Whites? OK.

@AdrianP_doc @dacianbromulus Why are you getting pissy about country size like he’s saying your dick is small? Romania, by landmass, ain’t that big. What’s the scandal?

@dacianbromulus Romania is not a small country , you fucking retard You dumb sugeranists are such cucks and weak bitches

As an Eastern European from a small country, I think being anti-Russia is stupid. However, being pro-Russia is even more stupid. I share the same opinion, pretty much, about any “empire.” They don’t care about our well-being, so why should we care about them? Play both sides.

@_dzirka @The_Davos_Man Yes, GDP is bullshit, but communist Poland was first and foremost a buffer state. Life was austere, and the material conditions of the average Pole still improved significantly. Ignoring this won’t help Poland leave this reflexive antagonism towards leftism Kraut is enabling.

@The_Davos_Man gdp is just a number so capitalists go mad when number go up. if it weren’t for communism, whole eastern europe would be rotting under capital and privatization for not just the last 35 years, but 100. there is no damage, only benefits that once they go, we die under capital

@_kabibara_ @The_Davos_Man Stop. Poland faced austerity and repression. I’m not saying it’s great there now, nor does any of this imply socialism is philosophically unsound, but Poland did improve economically once it stopped existing as a buffer state.

@The_Davos_Man Is this how the tankies castrated you?

@Kozzist @The_Davos_Man Okay, that is bad, but on this specific point Kraut is correct. Poland did function as a buffer state. Their economy was austere towards the people, there was political repression, and both were told to be in the name of communism.

@The_Davos_Man Poland is a hyper conservative anti immigration country that had LGBT free zones until like two years ago, and is still extremely anti LGBT

@CricketSurfing @SewerSocialism And you realize neoliberal governments behave in a way favorable to capital?

@SewerSocialism You … realize that governments control the waterways, right?

Capitalists literally right now:

@The_Davos_Man What’s your point? A reactionary clown doesn’t have politics as sophisticated as a someone closer to being a principled liberal?

One of the first things the Russian dissident Solchenyzn did when he arrived in Western exile, was to support the Vietnam War. One of the first things the Czech dissident Kundera did when he arrived in Western exile, was to condemn Pinochet's coup. Night and day difference.

@Sarcastagasm_2 @The_Clermontian @accipiter0 During the revolution the Finns had their own civil war. Their white movement won, purged leftists, and was dominated by reactionary politics. When the war ended, Finland conceded by defanging that movement and moderating. That was the point of wanting to conquer them.

@The_Clermontian @accipiter0 They also just move the goalposts around and say "Oh well the Soviets got the territory they wanted" and pretend like Stalin's actual aim wasn't to conquer all of Finland

@The_Clermontian And yet Finland felt the need to sue for peace and Barbarossa did ultimately fail. The finish line is what ultimately matters in war. A very poor start doesn’t matter if the ending is done well.

The Red Army was just bad and incompetent. If it wasn't then they would have beaten the Finns and Barbarossa would've imploded on contact. We don't have to pretend otherwise because the History Channel might have overcorrected.