SatoshiSuperstar
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Andrej, I’m John Fletcher. I have a PhD in mathematics and theoretical physics from Cambridge, and since 2016 I have been working full-time on the problem of how to coordinate untrusted distributed compute for algorithmic innovation. I listened to your No Priors conversation and recognised the architecture you were describing: commits that build on each other, computational asymmetry (hard to find, cheap to verify), an untrusted pool of workers collaborating through a blockchain-like structure. The result is The Innovation Game (TIG), which has been in continuous operation since mid-2024. The correspondence is so close that I thought it worth writing. The short version: roughly 7,000 Benchmarkers test algorithms submitted by Innovators by solving instances of asymmetric computational challenges (SAT, Vehicle Routing, Quadratic Knapsack, Vector Search, among others). This testing is "proof of work" in the technical sense of Dwork and Naor (1992). Innovators earn rewards proportional to adoption by the Benchmarkers. The repository of algorithms is open source (github.com/tig-foundation…). The system is already producing state-of-the-art results. For the Quadratic Knapsack Problem, 476 iterative submissions by independent contributors brought solution quality to a level that now exceeds methods published by Hochbaum et al. in the European Journal of Operational Research (2025). We are working with Thibaut Vidal (Polytechnique Montréal), who has submitted a state-of-the-art vehicle routing algorithm directly to TIG, and with Yuji Nakatsukasa (Oxford) and Dario Paccagnan (Imperial College London), among many others. One of TIG’s active challenges is directly relevant to your autoresearch work: an optimiser for neural network training (play.tig.foundation/challenges?cha…), where Innovators compete to develop an improved optimiser (see screenshot). One way in which TIG extends the vision is on the economic side. In our view, a monetary incentive is required, otherwise the open strand simply cannot compete at scale. TIG’s open source dual licensing model (designed by my co-founder Philip David, who was General Counsel at Arm Holdings for over a decade, and was the artchitect of ARMs licensing strategy) is intended to solve that problem. I expect we have each thought about parts of this that the other hasn’t. Happy to talk whenever suits. John Fletcher tig.foundation



Watch this, and understand what is going to happen. $TIG

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Justin, As you say.. “From now on, assume state-of-the-art algorithms will be censored. There may be self-censorship for moral or commercial reasons, or because of government pressure. A blackout in academic publications would be a tell-tale sign.” This, in my view, is the way that AI could go closed permanently. Not through hoarding data, or unavailability of hardware, but through SOTA algorithms going closed It’s easy to forget the current AI revolution was principally driven by the transformer architecture, which came from the attention mechanism: an algorithm. Algorithms are the highest leverage layer of the AI stack, and this leverage will only increase Algorithms have been under appreciated because, historically, they have been published openly. This is now changing, in large part due to AI-assisted algorithm discovery (see AlphaEvolve) which changes the economics of algorithm development so that open publication would but the discoverer at a significant competitive disadvantage The Innovation Game (TIG) was created to change these incentives, so that open publication is the commercially optimal route TIG has been in continuous operation since mid-2024. TIG has roughly 7,000 Benchmarkers test algorithms submitted by Innovators by solving instances of asymmetric computational challenges (SAT, Vehicle Routing, Quadratic Knapsack, Vector Search, among others) TIG is already producing state-of-the-art results. For the Quadratic Knapsack Problem, 476 iterative submissions brought solution quality to a level that now exceeds methods published by Hochbaum et al. in the European Journal of Operational Research (2025) Another challenge is an optimiser for neural network training (play.tig.foundation/challenges?cha…), where Innovators compete to develop an improved optimiser TIGs repository of algorithms is open source ( github.com/tig-foundation…). TIG works with some top the top experts in their fields including Thibaut Vidal (routing, explainable AI), Yuji Nakatsukasa (matries), Dario Paccagnan (game theory, mechanism design), among many others If this sounds familiar, it might be because Andrej @karpathy proposed a very similar vision in his recent No Priors interview with @saranormous See here for details x.com/Dr_JohnFletche… One way in which TIG extends Karpathy’s vision is on the economic side. In our view, a monetary incentive is required, otherwise the open strand simply cannot compete at scale TIG’s open source licensing model (designed by my co-founder Philip David, who was General Counsel at Arm Holdings for over a decade, and was the architect of ARMs licensing strategy) solves that problem Happy to discuss John Fletcher tig.foundation

















