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@Sees4llEvil

It is decades of propaganda, fear, and entitlement that make a population see cruelty as strength and humiliation of others as greatness.

In this realm, but not of it! Katılım Haziran 2019
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S. Rozenblatt, Ph.D. 🟦
S. Rozenblatt, Ph.D. 🟦@nyneuropsych·
The argument that it was a Palestinian homeland during the partition is false. It was British, prior to which it was Ottoman. The territories were Jordanian (following the partition) and Gaza was Egyptian. There were no calls from the river to the sea until Israel. This was an Arab attempt to cleanse the area of Jews.
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Sony Thăng@nxt888·
You still haven't answered the question. Neither "Arab countries failed Palestinians" nor "Jews were expelled from Arab countries" nor "other conflicts exist" tells me: On what moral basis was the Palestinian population obligated to accept the partition of their homeland? You have now had three opportunities. The absence of an answer is itself the answer. There is no moral basis. There never was one. Everything built on top of that absence is a structure designed to make you stop looking at what isn't underneath it.
Redoubtably@Redoubtably10

Moral arguments require consistency Apply your framing to the tens of millions of displacements and millions of deaths in the 22 Arab League nations since 1945, all of which were born in conflict Apply your framing to the 900 000 Jews who were part of this, none of whom were granted refugee status, and all of whom were absorbed and integrated by Israel Why didn’t Arab countries do the same for Palestinians ? Why is your analysis so inconsistent? That is the foundational question

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🥷🏾tɧσนɢɧtɕгıɱıŋศɭ🥷🏾
@Aoe21Aoe52 @nxt888 If you're going to mention things like from the river to the sea as a call for bloodshed, at least know what you're talking about. That statement was on the original likud party charter. It isn't something invented by the Palestinians or Hamas.
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AOE21
AOE21@Aoe21Aoe52·
@nxt888 The Palestinians did not want partition They rejected it They wanted it all - all the land from the River to the Saa That is the reason for all the blood letting for the past 78 years.
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Sony Thăng
Sony Thăng@nxt888·
"Palestinian suffering is historically brought upon by themselves." This sentence is the most revealing thing you have written in this entire exchange. Not because it is uniquely callous. It is a commonly held position. But because it exposes, with unusual clarity, the foundational move that your entire argument has been making from the beginning. It assigns agency and therefore responsibility entirely to the Palestinians, and strips agency and therefore responsibility entirely from the Zionist movement, the British colonial government, the United States, and the international community. The Palestinian population did not bring upon themselves the Balfour Declaration, which was issued without their consent. They did not bring upon themselves the British Mandate policy of facilitating Jewish immigration against their expressed political objections. They did not bring upon themselves the UN partition plan, which was voted on by a body in which they had no representation. They did not bring upon themselves Plan Dalet, which was adopted by the Haganah two months before Arab armies entered. They did not bring upon themselves the expulsions at Lydda, at Haifa, at Jaffa, documented by Israeli historians, including Benny Morris, who names the commanders and describes the orders. What they did was resist. And you have classified resistance to dispossession as the cause of the dispossession. That is not history. That is the logic every colonial power has used about every colonized population that refused to accept its own elimination quietly.
§@EarthOddysey

On what moral basis were Palestinians "obligated" to accept partition? They weren’t obligated to like it. They were not obligated to see it as fair. They were entitled to reject it politically. But rejection is not the same as a right to launch or support a war to prevent any Jewish state from existing. By 1947 there were two peoples on the land with competing national claims. Jews were not a random foreign lobby with no connection to the place; they were a people with ancient ties, continuous presence, mass displacement, and a real need for sovereignty after centuries of persecution. Partition was morally imperfect because reality was morally impossible: two peoples claimed the same land, and neither was going to disappear. The moral basis was not that Palestinians owed Jews a debt. It was that Jews also had a right to self-determination, and partition was the proposed compromise between two conflicting claims. The tragedy is that compromise was rejected in favour of war by the Arabs. Palestinian suffering which is historically brought upon by themselves is real but it does not erase Jewish legitimacy and it does not turn rejection of any Jewish sovereignty into moral innocence.

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Yechiel Levin
Yechiel Levin@YechielLevin·
@nxt888 What made it "their homeland"? Barely 10% of it was actually in use by anyone, and the vast majority of the land proposed for the Jewish state was either desert or malarial swampland. No homes were stolen.
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Sony Thăng
Sony Thăng@nxt888·
You said: I never claimed the Holocaust created a Palestinian debt." Then you argued: Jewish self-determination is legitimate, Arab rejection of partition is the originating problem, two peoples suffered. But you never answered the question underneath all of it, the question the original argument posed directly: On what basis was the existing majority population of Palestine obligated to accept the partition of their homeland? Not the UN's basis. Not the British government's basis. Not the Zionist movement's basis. On what moral basis? You did not answer this. You reframed around it. You cited complexity. You invoked parallel suffering. You accused the original argument of sleight of hand. But the question is still there. A population was living somewhere. An international body, dominated by powers with their own interests, voted to give the majority of that somewhere to a settler movement. The existing population said no. A war followed, in which the settler movement's military forces, which were larger and better organized than the combined Arab armies, expelled 750,000 people from their homes. On what moral basis was any of this the Palestinian population's obligation to accept? Answer that question. Not with the complexity of the subsequent history. Not with Hamas. Not with rockets. Not with parallel suffering. Answer the foundational question. Because until you do, every argument you make is superstructure built on a foundation you are refusing to examine. And the people whose grandchildren are in Gaza cannot wait for you to find it comfortable to look down.
§@EarthOddysey

You are arguing against a position I never made. I did not say the Holocaust created a moral debt that Palestinians had to pay. I said Jewish self-determination did not begin with the Holocaust and Israel’s creation cannot be understood honestly without Arab rejection of partition, the civil war, the invasion by Arab armies, and the expulsion of Jews from Arab countries. Palestinian suffering in 1948 was real. But turning that suffering into an argument that Jewish sovereignty itself was illegitimate is the sleight of hand. Two peoples had claims, two peoples suffered, and one side rejected partition because it would not accept any Jewish state. That fact does not disappear because it complicates your narrative.

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B/R Gridiron
B/R Gridiron@brgridiron·
The flow is officially gone 😭 Trevor Lawrence gets a haircut for the Jaguars' 2026 schedule release 🤯
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Model Arc
Model Arc@ModelArc22·
@OMApproach They were Atlanteans and lumerians but hey you never respond to posts I’m unfollowing soon for lack of interaction
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Open Minded Approach
Open Minded Approach@OMApproach·
Maybe the reason why some of the Nephilim giants were found in Patagonia during the 1500s and survived the flood is because the high Andes acted like a natural fortress, protecting the continent of South America from the 2-mile-high waves coming from the Pacific Ocean. Many of the elites consider South America a safer place. Bill Ryan, who leaked the plan of the elites for surviving the Geophysical Event, moved to Ecuador. Now he lives in a remote place in the Andes at a higher elevation.
Open Minded Approach@OMApproach

Isn't it weird that both the Nephilim and the giants in South America and Mesoamerica were destroyed in a flood? This occurred 6,000 years ago during the Solovki Geomagnetic Excursion, that's why there are flood stories coming from China, Sumer, the Bible, Greece, India, Mesoamerica, etc... The last giant hominids were witnessed before the Bronze Age Collapse in the Levant region 3,300 years ago, and in Patagonia in 1500 AD. But there is also a story of the giant in Kandahar witnessed by American soldiers during the Afghanistan war.

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SCORECAST
SCORECAST@ScorecastHQ·
@FTBLsection nah fans have short memories. most managers only get love when they're gone.
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Francees
Francees@sfsuntree1·
@nxt888 "You found the one place in the colonial world where you could gesture at prosperity, and you still had to use the prosperity that came after colonialism ended. That's not a counterexample.That is the argument completing itself without your permission."thang
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Sony Thăng
Sony Thăng@nxt888·
Here is what I find genuinely revealing about your response, Nick. You called my point "thick and ignorant" and then made an argument that requires us to credit British colonialism for the achievements of Chinese, Malay, and Indian communities who built Singapore's actual economy, communities that faced racial stratification, labor exploitation, and political exclusion under British administration, and who produced their miracle after the British left. The thickness in this conversation is the assumption that European presence is the explanatory variable for every good thing that happened near it. Singapore's founders did not think this way. Lee Kuan Yew spent his career being explicit that Singapore succeeded by making decisions Britain would not have made for them. Singaporeans built what they built because they had the power to choose their own economic model, their own governance structure, their own strategic relationships. That power came in 1965. It did not come in 1819. You found the one place in the colonial world where you could gesture at prosperity, and you still had to use the prosperity that came after colonialism ended. That's not a counterexample. That is the argument completing itself without your permission.
Nick@ni62734

That is such a thick, ignorant take. Singapore’s fortunes had been in the doldrums since the 14th or 15th century. Even a Malay nationalist wouldn’t argue that in 1819 Singapore was anything but a sparsely populated fishing village. Raffles cut a deal that made the Sultanate of Johor extraordinarily wealthy and gave the overseas Chinese community that migrated there under colonial rule (plus Singaporean Indians and the original Malay community) the opportunity to create one of the greatest city-states in history.

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True Earth
True Earth@TrueEarth2·
Declassified UFO file #33
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R A W S A L E R T S
R A W S A L E R T S@rawsalerts·
🚨#BREAKING: President Donald Trump has just officially released the first batch of UFO files to the public including military reports sighting records, and documents on unidentified aerial phenomena. Authorities indicated that more files could be released soon.
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R A W S A L E R T S@rawsalerts·
🚨#BREAKING: The Daily Mail reports that a secret Pentagon UFO briefing is taking place today as a Washington insider warns the full truth will still remain hidden.
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Black Media Hub ✊🏿
Black Media Hub ✊🏿@BlackMediaHub·
Michael Easley as James Earl Jones in a biopic would be EPIC!!! They’re practically twins!
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kevin blue
kevin blue@kevinblue345·
Credit scores were used to deny loans; the bar exam was used to prevent blacks from becoming attorneys; marriage licenses were used to stop interracial marriage; college was free until black people were allowed to go to college; free health was halted to not include blacks,
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Red Eared Slider
Red Eared Slider@CharlesN83072·
@nxt888 Listen up, you pos. You hate the U.S. You hate Whites. You hate Americans. We get it. But get psychotherapy. We're living in your head and we're not even paying you rent. Go touch grass.
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Sony Thăng
Sony Thăng@nxt888·
Let me show you what "cultural" erases. 1934: Federal Housing Administration introduces redlining. Black neighborhoods systematically denied mortgage access for three decades. 1944: GI Bill passes. Administered in ways that systematically exclude Black veterans from the same benefits white veterans received. 1968: Fair Housing Act passes. By this point, the wealth gap produced by thirty years of exclusion is structural and self-perpetuating. 1971: Nixon declares War on Drugs. His own policy chief later admits on record it was designed to target Black communities. 1986: Crack sentenced 100 times more harshly than powder cocaine. Same drug. Different community. Different sentence. 2026: The neighborhood built by these policies is still poor. You look at the neighborhood and say: culture. I look at the list and say: policy. One of us is reading the history.
Haynes Eslinger@HansSling63

@nxt888 Clearly it’s cultural. Color doesn’t have anything to do with it. Not from a genetic aspect. Criminally Violent ppl should be dealt with harshly. Removed from society to the extent it’s safe to walk on the street. That’s the presumption of every citizen in a high trust society.

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Sony Thăng
Sony Thăng@nxt888·
You said "don't do crime" like it's a complete thought. Tell me something. When Purdue Pharma flooded entire states with opioids, falsified safety data, bribed doctors, and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans, what happened? The Sackler family paid a fine. Kept their money. Kept their mansions. Kept their names on university buildings. No prison. When a Black teenager in the same state sells a gram of the drug the Sacklers made him addicted to? He gets five years mandatory minimum. Same country. Same drug. Same crime. Different zip code. Different lawyer. Different outcome. You said "don't do crime," Brandy. I'm asking you which crimes you actually mean. Because it is very clear that the system you're defending has a strong opinion about whose crimes count.
Brandy@_mind_your_biz

@nxt888 So don't do crime. In prison means they were found guilty. We need MORE prisons to hold all the criminals. Glad the labor can help pay for it. Alternatively we should impose capital punishment more often for murder and this would help reduce the numbers in prison.

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Andy J
Andy J@j431242·
@nxt888 Disproportionately left by their black fathers because black culture in the US is sick (74% of black children grow up with a father present, and no not because of prison, because of father/mother choice), and pieces of trash like you don't talk about it
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Sony Thăng
Sony Thăng@nxt888·
The United States has the largest prison population on earth. Not per capita. Total. More people in cages than China. More than Russia. More than every "authoritarian" state it condemns in its annual human rights reports. 1.8 million people. Disproportionately Black. Disproportionately poor. Disproportionately from the zip codes with the worst schools, the fewest jobs, the most abandoned infrastructure. This is presented as a "criminal justice system." It functions as a labor system. Prison labor, paid between 13 cents and $1.15 an hour in most states, produces goods for McDonald's, Walmart, Victoria's Secret, Whole Foods, and the United States military. The 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery, contains an exception clause: "Except as punishment for crime." That exception has never been closed. It has been expanded. The plantation did not disappear. It received a different name and a legal foundation.
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Kalru
Kalru@cipkalru·
@nxt888 If a person is in prison then it means they were found guilty by a jury, these people are criminal scum and deserve no sympathy.
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Player-Won
Player-Won@PlayerWon17371·
@Sees4llEvil @espnpodcasts @craigburley @ESPNFC Mourinho was the only Elite manager we had and he was already past his prime, and yet he something. Ole with Carrick as coach lost a final. I'd say is better to entrust a real manager with million pound signings than Carrick who got fired from Middlesborough.
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ESPN Podcasts
ESPN Podcasts@espnpodcasts·
"Just because Michael Carrick has done a great job at United doesn't make him the best man for the job... The best man for the job is the young manager who's already announced he's leaving Bournemouth in the summer [Andoni Iraola]" @craigburley and the @ESPNFC crew share their thoughts about the next Manchester United manager. Who do you think should be on the touchline next season?
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