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language model | sequence modeling | education | HCI

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Yu Zhang 🐙🌘
Yu Zhang 🐙🌘@yzhang_cs·
@mark_k but quite the opposite, i'd say kimi is every bit as much a true believer in scaling laws as A\, arguably more so than oai
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Zeyuan Allen-Zhu, Sc.D.
Zeyuan Allen-Zhu, Sc.D.@ZeyuanAllenZhu·
Congrats, @Kimi_Moonshot! 『 Kimi’s Four Commandments』have circulated in the Chinese AI community for months. Many people add their own fifth for comic relief, but the original four were the core. Here's an English translation --- since apparently none can be taken for granted.
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Xinyu Yang@Xinyu2ML

Why can Kimi ship K3? Let me tell my story. Earlier this year, I left academia for industry. I talked to a lot of companies along the way. Here's what I saw: 1⃣Arrogance. They believe the AI war is over, and they won. No hunger for the future, and no hunger for talent. 2⃣Restlessness. Young labs short on foundation, either rushing to catch the frontier or pivoting away from the competition. 3⃣Fear. Strong teams with real experience, but from the second tier, they can't quite bring themselves to aim for #1. 4⃣Misalignment. Everyone is optimizing for their own credit, but nobody really cares whether the company can reach AGI. Kimi was different. Over many conversations with the founders, the same thing came through every time: a raw, genuine hunger for AGI. I joined. The hunger was real. We shipped K3. This is only the beginning.

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Martin Monperrus
Martin Monperrus@martinmonperrus·
We found that coding agents know if the code they write will pass tests up to 25 steps before they write it. They are actively planning the fix in the latent space. Latent Programming Horizons in Coding Agents arxiv.org/pdf/2607.05188
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Hangliang Ding
Hangliang Ding@_foreverpiano·
Everyone's building harnesses that run for hours now — auto-research loops, /goal agents, overnight coding runs. But here's the thing: a harness only keeps going if the environment keeps teaching it something. That's the real bottleneck, not just the scaffolding. This is why we built EdgeBench on real-world tasks — gravitational waves, EDA design, formal math. Real tasks have deep feedback structure; toy tasks run dry in 30 minutes. 134 tasks, to ~72h. And the learning follows a clean log-sigmoid. 👇
Deyao Zhu@tikgiau

Introducing EdgeBench, a benchmark designed to study how agents learn from environments over at least 12~72-hour runs. We find that performance follows a log-sigmoid function of environment interaction time with high precision. EdgeBench is built with three ingredients: - 🌍 Real & Diverse: 134 real-world tasks across 6 task categories, spanning scientific problems, professional knowledge work, software engineering, optimization, formal math, and games. - ⏳ Ultra-Long-Horizon: Each task supports 12–72 hours of agent work. Recorded human effort averages 57.2 hours. - 🔁 Informative Feedback: Agents receive real-world feedback for continuous improvement. After 38,000 hours of agent runs on EdgeBench, a scaling law for learning from environments emerges: - 📈 As agents interact with task environments over time, their aggregate performance is precisely fit by a log-sigmoid function. - 🧠 This phenomenon can be explained by an elegant theory of graph exploration. We are releasing an initial 51 of the 134 tasks, together with the full evaluation framework, to help advance long-horizon agent research. Check our blog & paper for more findings! Blog edge-bench.org Paper edge-bench.org/paper.pdf GitHub github.com/ByteDance-Seed… Dataset huggingface.co/datasets/ByteD… Details below 👇🧵

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Zekun Wang
Zekun Wang@kugwzk1·
@TianhangZhuzth I noticed that the Qwen2.5/3 and Qwen2.5-Math technical reports appear on your Google Scholar, but I could not find your name in the author lists. Could you clarify your role in these works?
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Shom@ShomLinEd·
@pmddomingos just apply 1000 modifications and call it by another name
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Pedro Domingos
Pedro Domingos@pmddomingos·
Imagine if Google had an enforceable patent on transformers.
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Eric Hartford
Eric Hartford@QuixiAI·
@NexEcosystem @SemiAnalysis_ To be precise, it's a merge of Nex-N2-Pro with Qwen3.5-397b (which imo would degrade vs just basing from Nex-N2-Pro) with some On-Policy Distillation on top. They credit Nex-N2-Pro in their model card, nothing sneaky. The switch from Apache 2.0 to MIT is odd.
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SemiAnalysis@SemiAnalysis_·
SITUATION DETECTED: The city of Rio de Janerio has post-trained a model. Based on Qwen 7/2, Rio 3.5 Open 397B adds SwiReasoning on top of the base Qwen model — a framework that dynamically switches between standard chain-of-thought and latent-space reasoning, guided by entropy-based confidence signals, so the model only "thinks out loud" when it needs to and otherwise reasons silently in hidden space for better token efficiency.
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Nex
Nex@NexEcosystem·
The Rio 3.5 model broke the internet this week. The plot twist? It’s essentially our open-source model, Nex N2 Pro, wearing a different hat. 🤯 We analyzed the weights, and the recipe is exact: Rio 3.5 ≈ 0.6 * Nex N2 Pro + 0.4 * Qwen 3.5 It even literally introduces itself as "Nex N2 Pro" if you ask it without initial system prompt! 😂 We are flattered that the City of Rio used our work to achieve SOTA performance. Thanks for the ultimate benchmark validation. 🤝 But in the open-source world, attribution matters. 👇 Full mathematical proof & verify script in the first reply!
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Shom@ShomLinEd·
@francoisfleuret my first thought was mixing attention and rnn would do the trick but then it came to me that in hybrid transformers, rnns are often reduced to simple local mixers
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François Fleuret
François Fleuret@francoisfleuret·
Hot take: Transformers are all-seeing ultrafast librarians. They have a very low incentive to extract and organize information, they can just "look around" to see correlating fragments. RNNs done properly would have far stronger "conceptual embeddings" and would actually think.
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Dawning Road
Dawning Road@TheDawningRoad·
Introducing Nex-N2 — true Agentic Thinking, built with @NexEcosystem 🚀 Thinking is now standard in foundation models, but it sits in an awkward position in Agent tasks: either the performance gains aren't significant, or it's verbose, and switching scenarios means readapting all over again. The root cause is that thinking from the o1/R1 era was built around RLVR for math and code tasks, not for long-horizon Agent tasks—there's a layer of separation between thinking and action. Nex-N2 introduces a complete Agentic Thinking framework, split into two parts: Adaptive Thinking and Coherent Thinking. The former achieves adaptive reasoning intensity, improving speed (which really matters in long-horizon tasks spanning hundreds of steps) and saving unnecessary token expenditure. The latter unifies thinking patterns across different tasks, making actions more stable, consistent, and robust. - Adaptive Thinking, auto-scales reasoning depth per step. Saves ~20% tokens, zero performance loss. - Coherent Thinking, one thinking paradigm across search, coding, and tool use. No more fragile mode-switching. On coding and Agent tasks, Nex-N2 ranks in the top tier of open-source models. The model is fully open-sourced and available simultaneously on Hugging Face, ModelScope, and SiliconFlow. We welcome everyone to try it out. Official website: nex-agi.cn Huggingface: huggingface.co/collections/ne…
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Shom@ShomLinEd·
@_m0se_ It seems in hybrid models linear and full attentions take on different roles as full attentions capture long term dependencies more easily leaving linear attention to focus on local mixing.
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OpenMOSE
OpenMOSE@_m0se_·
Qwen3.5のGDNレイヤーを分析していましたが、 1000トークンくらいの記憶しか事実上されてなかった
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Shom@ShomLinEd·
@can some of sqlte's tests are public tho
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can@can·
in the light of this automated bun rewrite, SQLite’s open-source core, closed-source tests policy feels prescient but not exactly sure how
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Shom@ShomLinEd·
@jarredsumner Is this fuzzer a library or made by you?
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Jarred Sumner
Jarred Sumner@jarredsumner·
There is now a fuzzer running 24/7 for every language parser in Bun, ranging from .npmrc files and .patch files to shell scripts to jsonc & typescript & css. Once it minimizes a repro, it sends to Claude to fix and then I review.
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Shom@ShomLinEd·
@boshen_c it's from zig presumably
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Boshen@boshen_c·
So many allocators! We only have 1 in Oxc 😂
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Boshen@boshen_c·
Thanks to the Rust rewrite, I now learn why Bun is fast First find: it uses a thread local arena for ASTs
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Kaichao You
Kaichao You@KaichaoYou·
This is growth-hacking dressed up in open-source language, @radixark please stop doing it immediately. Paying people in platform credits to star a GitHub repo and repost a marketing tweet isn't "fueling the community" — it's laundering paid promotion through the trust signals open source depends on. Stars are supposed to mean someone found a project useful. Attach a $200 bounty and the number means nothing. GitHub's own policies prohibit this for exactly that reason.
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RadixArk@radixark

$200 FREE CREDIT! We just launched our inference platform for beta testing, and we're giving it to the community first. ⭐ Star SGLang on GitHub (github.com/sgl-project/sg…) + repost this to claim your credits. → Limited spots, first come first serve → Deadline: May 13, 2025 (AoE) Every star, every issue filed, every PR reviewed, every question answered in Slack — You built this with us. Thank you for believing in open-source AI infrastructure, in our mission, and in us. Claim your credits: platform.radixark.com

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Shom@ShomLinEd·
@zephyr_z9 full attention also has linear scaling...
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Zephyr@zephyr_z9·
Ok, so it's a linear attention variant
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Keller Jordan
Keller Jordan@kellerjordan0·
New modded-NanoGPT optimization benchmark result: @wen_kaiyue has improved upon both the Muon and AdamW baselines, by replacing their weight decay with hyperball optimization. The new record is 3325 steps.
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