@stephenehorn @squid_lone Most have US degrees and this Reddit OP has a MS in mechanical engineering. While fake diplomas have become a problem in India, no evidence that H-1B workers have fake degrees.
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@squid_lone Hispanics don't have quite the same culture of scamming, kickbacks, ethnic nepotism, and fake degrees needed to support the Indian dominance in the H-1B system
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This is how the system should work
The H-1B visa was never sold to the American public as an immigration pathway for Indians
It was intended to fill "specialty" jobs for which qualified Americans couldn't be found
So when you lose your H-1B job, of course you should go home
Hany Girgis@SanDiegoKnight
This timeline escalated fast: Laid off on H-1B Filed B2 near the end of the 60-day grace period Found a new job Filed for an H-1B transfer Then this happened: B2 denied Grace period not recognized Out of status Final notice from USCIS: Leave the country or pay a $100,000 fee and reprocess abroad Timeline went from employed → compliant → out of status in weeks This is how the system is currently being applied reddit.com/r/h1b/s/yzktgt…
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@avidseries Indians that have arrived in the past 5-10 years are not the same quality as the ones who came 20-30 years ago. There are only about 2 million Indians in the world with IQs over 130. There are currently about 5 million Indians in the US
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Jewish-Americans are at the very top for median net worth, but probably won't be for much longer because Indian-Americans earn considerably more income.
The Jewish wealth edge exists because they have a longer history in the US, with more generational wealth accumulation.
National Conservative@NatCon2022
Data from Pew Research, which was endorsed as factually correct by the New York Times in May 11, 2011: Jews are not only the single wealthiest segment of the US population, but the Jewish versus non-Jewish income gap is GREATER than the White versus Black income gap.
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Sri@SriViews_
@SanDiegoKnight Borjas still using LCA wages that are not equivalent to ACS earnings (for citizens). The regression model is misspecified by not including the outsourcing industry variable. The estimated wage gap erroneously reflects the wage gap for IT workers in outsourcing and staffing firms.
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Borjas has no idea what the fuck he’s talking about.
Any logical CEO faced with an extra $100k cost per hire will do the obvious:
Move the role offshore and save instantly.
That’s exactly what’s happening.
Offshore firms are busier than ever.
Real conversations are happening right now about moving entire departments out.
So what did this “policy” actually achieve?
Not protecting American jobs.
Exporting them.
A $100k H-1B fee isn’t some clever fix.
It’s a tax on hiring in America.
This is the exact opposite of pro-business policy.
The same party that claims to stand for free markets is now actively distorting them.
Shameful.
Hany Girgis@SanDiegoKnight
Everyone keeps saying H-1B workers are “paid more” Here’s what the updated data actually shows: After critiques from economists like Clemens and others, George Borjas revised his paper Result? Still finds a ~15.5% wage gap Meaning H-1B workers are paid about 15% less than comparable U.S. workers Same jobs Same fields Controlled for observable factors So what exactly are we calling this…a shortage or just cheaper labor with better branding? georgeborjas.substack.com/p/revised-vers…
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@SanDiegoKnight Borjas still using LCA wages that are not equivalent to ACS earnings (for citizens). The regression model is misspecified by not including the outsourcing industry variable. The estimated wage gap erroneously reflects the wage gap for IT workers in outsourcing and staffing firms.
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Everyone keeps saying H-1B workers are “paid more”
Here’s what the updated data actually shows:
After critiques from economists like Clemens and others,
George Borjas revised his paper
Result?
Still finds a ~15.5% wage gap
Meaning H-1B workers are paid about 15% less than comparable U.S. workers
Same jobs
Same fields
Controlled for observable factors
So what exactly are we calling this…a shortage or just cheaper labor with better branding?
georgeborjas.substack.com/p/revised-vers…
Jeremy Neufeld@JeremyLNeufeld
There’s a big ongoing debate about how much H-1Bs are paid compared to Americans that I think misses something really important. Borjas says the wage gap is large and negative (-14%), @InnovateEconomy says it’s small and negative (-5%) and @m_clem's new paper says it’s not statistically significant (-1%). But if H-1Bs were working as intended, shouldn’t the wage gap be large and positive? The "Prevailing Wage" system is intended to block ANY H-1Bs with a negative gap. It's clearly not doing its job. Even in the most optimistic paper of this debate, roughly half of H-1Bs get approved despite a negative wage gap. The Department of Labor just finished preparing a rule revising the Prevailing Wage regs, set to be published in Federal Register any day now. The admin has a huge opportunity here to fix the Prevailing Wage system: Simply calculate the individual's wage gap and deny their H-1B if they are negative. It would accomplish what Congress actually wanted Prevailing Wage requirements to do: prevent companies from undercutting Americans and reserve visas for those foreign workers who have truly rare and valuable skills.
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@KatyinIndy If you are a “high IQ” American tech worker, how come you are using an apostrophe to denote a plural form for IQ?
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As a tech worker, who had to work with these foreigners for over 20 years, they are not smarter in any way, shape or form than Americans… Or ever will be!!! They have lower IQ’s and can’t learn or work like Americans.
During WWII high school women built airplanes, tanks, bombs, ships and everything else needed for the military and learned how to do it rapidly……because Americans are born with higher IQ’s.
MOMof DataRepublican@data_republican
I've seen a few posts on this today. I think I may have even reposted one, but I've been thinking... What if this has to do with the quality of the education that our US students are receiving? Maybe our students don't measure up in scholastics to international students? Just a thought.
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@JBlunt1018 @SanDiegoKnight Girgis and Hira are patriots. Not anchor babies.
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Hany are you first or second gen immigrant? I bet you or your parent stole an opportunity from a native worker too. Did you not? Someone else could have started a skillstorm. Someone else could be making a difference, your presence here has affected the native worker has it not?
This is your logic 😂
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This is what’s frustrating.
He asks a simple question:
If we have unemployed workers and STEM grads…
why are we still importing labor through H-1Bs?
No answer.
Because if you apply basic supply and demand…
you expose the truth.
Rep. Josh Schriver@JoshuaSchriver
Michigan has 250,000 unemployed Americans and 400,000+ foreign workers. Annually, 12,000 STEM college graduates in Michigan cannot find STEM jobs. 75,000 foreigners (H-1B visa holders) have those STEM jobs in Michigan. Michigan jobs must go to Michigan workers FIRST.
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The claim is false. In 2025, DHS reported over 500k formal removals/deportations of illegal aliens (on pace for ~600k annually).
New/initial H-1B approvals: ~140k total per year (USCIS data), with ~70-73% to Indian nationals (~100k).
That's ~5 deportations per 1 new H1B Indian—not the reverse. Most H-1B approvals overall (~400k) are extensions for existing workers.
Data from DHS, USCIS, Pew Research.
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For every illegal we deport we’re importing 5 H1B Indians.
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@NotoriousAKG @bobwebberlawyer @SpeakSamuel That’s basic integrity. It’s a joke if workers can downgrade and benefit.
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@SriViews_ @bobwebberlawyer @SpeakSamuel It is one of many unanswered questions, i.e. are change of employers tied to the same wage and level?
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The Trump Admin's H-1B weighted lottery rule is prone to being rigged. The new lottery will give the highest paid people in a given occupation more lottery entries.
The problem? Employers can reclassify the occupation they're hiring for. A software developer making $130k gets 2 lottery entries. But if the employer classifies that person as a computer systems analyst, they get 3 lottery entries.
Overall, reclassification could reduce the expected wage gains from the rule by 42.2%. budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/p/2026-03-04-h…
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@bobwebberlawyer @SpeakSamuel @NotoriousAKG Transfers will have to be at or above the original wage level. This is a simple algorithmic control that the agency can implement.
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@SpeakSamuel @NotoriousAKG I think the grift will be 2 entities. Entity 1 will file and ask for Level 4 to win the lottery and then after selected and approved, the beneficiary will be transferred to entity 2 at Level 1. Voila.
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@David_J_Bier @m_clem + Regression model mispecification: By omitting the indicator variable for outsourcing firms, Borjas and Clemens make a fundamental error making the results meaningless. A software engineer at Google can’t compared to a SE at Infosys. Industry effects/interaction ignored.
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Wow. Michael Clemens, @m_clem, explains exactly why Borjas is wrong that H-1B workers are underpaid and that employers would be willing to pay $100K tax to hire them.
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@woopdedoodahhh @wil_da_beast630 If colleges want to discriminate they will surely have other means as well. Ethnic names and college essays can often provide good clues to admissions officers.
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Yeah that's true. I don't omit on standardized test, just college apps. But I'm aware some people don't. Like I said, I did for some and not others, and any app where I made my ethnic background obvious resulted in a decline for an offer of admission. That's what I was saying above. It's a sample size of 1 but it's my own experiment. I think some sociologists have conducted these experiments by putting 'white' names on Resumes. I'm only reporting my experience of having done essentially the same, but not on purpose, necessarily, just because Indian Catholics often have Latinized names. That's all . Peace.
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Asians have a harder time getting into college than whites - which we knew - but Indians etc apparently have a harder time than East Asians.
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@woopdedoodahhh @wil_da_beast630 There is good data on Indian American test scores. Meaning they are not being omitted most of the time.
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@SriViews_ @wil_da_beast630 That's not true. Most American-born desis I know omit it. There's zero advantage. It's just used for stats.
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@MarcusForPeace @NaveenGRao I don’t think Indian American kids will survive IITs - considering the rigor and cultural factors.
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@NaveenGRao Kids with awesome applications, interested in sciences, should consider applying to some of the IITs as they are very strong these days. I’ve considered endowing a scholarship for children of any ethnicity born and raised in Detroit that want to make that leap.
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Can confirm by having 2 kids of Indian descent in college/applying for college.
Wilfred Reilly@wil_da_beast630
Asians have a harder time getting into college than whites - which we knew - but Indians etc apparently have a harder time than East Asians.
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@woopdedoodahhh @wil_da_beast630 Most people I know are honest about it. They don’t feel the need to lie or opt out.
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@SriViews_ @wil_da_beast630 You can decline to state. You can also lie, because in America, it's self classification based, not any genetic thing. I would encourage people to just decline to state.
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@woopdedoodahhh @wil_da_beast630 College applications explicitly ask for race/ethnicity. They don’t guess by name.
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I mean obviously this is true. As an Indian Catholic with a Portuguese/Latino name, basically as long as I didn't show up to an interview, or only did a telephone interview, I got into the college. The moment someone from the admission department saw you and saw that you looked Indian, you were out. The entire system is unfair and stupid.
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@SpeakSamuel That’s subjective. If wage levels are to be removed in favor of pure wage based ranking, then a small quota for non-IT occupations would care for it.
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@SriViews_ It's a bad system. Not all occupations should be treated equally.
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@UtSnowBird @David_J_Bier @AdamOzimek Microsoft is not a non-profit. It doesn’t qualify for cap exempt status.
But most non-profit H-1B positions are academic and medical related that require PhD or MD degrees.
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Every single position I posted does not require any specialized training such as a doctor. I could probably send you 200 people qualified for every one of those jobs.
Adding companies like Microsoft firing people and immediately replacing them with H1B visa people - Go ahead and try to excuse that one.
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Led by @AdamOzimek, Economic Innovation Group finds that households with H-1Bs contribute 2.6 times more net to all levels of the US government than the average US household.
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@UtSnowBird @David_J_Bier @AdamOzimek Most positions are faculty, researchers and MDs. I didn’t say all.
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You really want receipts? They've been posting tons of job openings for Analyst positions, programmers and other positions that tons of Americans can do. Go to LinkedIn and see who is looking at jobs and tell me that we should be bringing in someone out of country to do programming for a university instead of someone in country.
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