Official Strength Debates

Which is more common with Trap Bar Deadlift? Using more of a bent over position Using more of an upright torso position

@Bengal_DPT I like the directional cue you added for force vectors I’ll share how I teach it, similar but different

@StrengthDebates I would say squat vs hinge. And to me the difference is the direction you apply force. So squat is vertical jump, hinge is broad jump.

Who can give me the difference between a squat and a deadlift? What is the difference in the pattern?? I used to teach this to other coaches, I would love to hear others way of differentiating 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼

@waw_jr_ I’ve heard something similar Only thing different than a low bar and deadlift is one the bar is in your hands and the other on your back

@StrengthDebates There is no difference if you’re a low bar squatter. I’m mostly joking (but not entirely).

@VNextJim @GregPar60880436 Why not???

@StrengthDebates @GregPar60880436 No. Absolutely not. Never ever never read something that might cause you to reconsider set ways. Keep being awesome!

My take on Trap Bar Deadlift It’s a squat Therefore, Trap Bar Deadlift is not a substitute for a barbell deadlift And you cannot compare the 2 in any way 2 completely different movements, 2 completely different outcomes 🤝

@shawn_E_jones @PSmiles24 I agree with Shawn. I’m not really buying into the idea that a trap bar dead lift is more of a dead lift than a sumo. It’s a good hot take but there’s no logic

@PSmiles24 @StrengthDebates Hips and posterior chain activation for sumo is very much a deadlift

@StrengthEwa Haha agreed!

@StrengthDebates The most common are squats with the trap bar

Which is more common with Trap Bar Deadlift? Using more of a bent over position Using more of an upright torso position

@DraperOr @NakatomiHarry I’ll poll it, let the people decide 🤣

@StrengthDebates @NakatomiHarry I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone do a trap bar deadlift with an upright torso. That would be pretty uncomfortable and would require good / excellent mobility.

@DraperOr @NakatomiHarry Damn son this isn’t the same thread but good news is it sounds like we only disagree on which position is more commonly used

@StrengthDebates @NakatomiHarry My response to your post

@DraperOr @NakatomiHarry Screenshot where you said that

@StrengthDebates @NakatomiHarry You missed the bit where I said “how most people do trap bar deadlifts”. Greg points this out quite carefully in his article.

lol it’s not a fact I can’t take you seriously anymore I can show someone to do a TBDL with a stacked torso, which is most common, or I can teach them to use a hinge It’s an opinion, people are able to freely use the trap bar how they prefer. Most of the time, people are using it with a stacked torso. Aka the op

@StrengthDebates @NakatomiHarry Fact. It’s testable. The answer is clear: trap bar deadlifts are predominantly a hinge movement, with much greater hamstring and glute focus than quads.

@StrengthDebates I was doing 10x3 at 80% of daily 1RM and that was pretty good. Recently moved to 10x3 at 85% and damn. This might be the sweet spot! Been doing this formula since learning about it and it is amazing!

@RobDouglas Well done

Visceral Fat is declining as my Lean Body Mass is increasing. Two good charts to start the week.

@NostraPepe @JackedBasedMgr @BowTiedYukon Can you press a DB that you can’t carry?

@StrengthDebates @JackedBasedMgr @BowTiedYukon Carrying and pressing are not the same and you know it Letting your grip hold back your press is ridiculous. Work to improve both.

This is going to upset people but if you need all these cute little contraptions to move the big boy dumbbells you probably shouldn’t be using the big boy dumbbells

Very weird behavior

@NostraPepe @JackedBasedMgr @BowTiedYukon That’s not the same and you know it. If you plan to press a dumbbell you should be able to carry it If you can’t carry it you can’t press it

@JackedBasedMgr @BowTiedYukon @StrengthDebates That implies that you should only then use weights that you can already complete the full process with, thus making progressive overload impossible. I can't clean my squat, so should I not use a rack to set up my squat?

@PSmiles24 I don’t think people could define a squat vs deadlift Once you learn to do that then it’s very easy IMO

@StrengthDebates You can say the exact same thing about sumo. It is not a deadlift and in no way resembles a deadlift and shouldn't be counted in competition as a deadlift. It's just a sumo lift. That is all.

@Fornowago @GregPar60880436 I have education, Bachelors and Masters, and have read more books than most people in this field. I also certified coached for years.

@StrengthDebates @GregPar60880436 Yes, it's called education.

@GregPar60880436 You want me to read something that tells me how to think? Rather than formulate my own thoughts based on my experiences?

@StrengthDebates Go away - do some reading - there's LOTS of it, then come back and say the same thing again.

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