SwurvGaming
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I wanted to record some gameplay footage from Assassins Creed IV.
AMD Software Adrenalin game record feature didn't even work even after resetting my PC, so I tried using alternative methods like Xbox Game Bar, although it works fine for most games, in this instance it didn't work well as it halted my framerate for some odd reason.
So I decided to use OBS Studio and even though the framerate of the game didn't have any issues, this is how the video came out looking like💀
I'm having a headache
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@beyond_fps @BMKing23 yup, its just now theres a proper pathtracing mode that highlights these issues. buts its been this way for years even before they introduced raytracing in re village. re2r had objects not casting shadows
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@BMKing23 These are the typical corners that Capcom cuts to get the performance that people praise.
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Ray Tracing vs Path Tracing in #PRAGMATA .
Path Tracing looks stunning, no doubt, but do we really need it for basic effects like casting a shadow or adding shading beneath the car? Or to properly shade characters’ faces?
I think the answer is a clear NO.
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Very careful wording from Fern here by saying "actual AI driven slop"
Because theirs will never be slop - it will simply be just AI driven.. right?
ps - not sure why a response was needed - people are allowed to sell their companies and make money
do people think we are chronically online for no reason?
Dexerto@Dexerto
Fern has responded after being accused of selling out to private equity The backlash follows a viral YouTube video claiming investment firms are turning beloved channels into “slop”
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@Ru_NRD @novakkoplus @Septic_Sauce Released: Cyberpunk, alan wake 2, black myth, Indiana jones, doom tda, F1 25, fbc firebreak, re9, pragmata, desorde
Releasing later this year: directive, tides of anhilation, control resonant, sea of remnants, 007
Then I think there's 20 rtx remixes of old games.
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Its amazing that we're now seeing more Path Traced games. I remember watching that early Digital Foundry video on Minecraft at the start of the gen thinking what a shame that it wouldn't be possible on big titles but its becoming the norm on PC (and soon next gen consoles).
𝙉𝙄𝙆𝙁𝙊𝙍@Nikfor_
Pragmata | Path Tracing vs Ray Tracing The difference in this spot is pretty big. First time trying a comparison like this, so if people vibe with it I’ll drop more. :)
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@Pirat_Nation Ray Tracing is very overhyped
Its a nice new tech that is only worth it in a select few game types
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Pragmata Path Tracing is getting backlash because it actually looks better without it, not to mention it will double your FPS.
According to most people, it looks generic and soulless.
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@DS2LightingMod @D_S_O_Gaming 100% true. Best in motion, it shows the depth.
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@D_S_O_Gaming lol, pragamata discussion shows that. PT is best shown in motion imo, as that’s when u can appreciate the character interactivity with environment
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@krispy1337 @mpr_reviews @WattTheF1ux that re4r mod helps with contact shadows but there are still a bunch of objects that dont cast shadows even with the mod
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@SwurvGaming @mpr_reviews @WattTheF1ux More like Capcom had a problem with users having contact shadows working, one modder fixed it and it casts shadows on faces and other geometries just like PT does.
They are just lazy from technical point.
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Saying only artists know intent is wrong. Vision is shown in the final image. If it’s flat, the physic based maths failed the art. Even as an "option", it costs dev time. Choosing automated maths over hand crafted depth and speed is just poor optimization. We deserve better.
Mostly Positive Reviews@mpr_reviews
It's DLSS 5 discourse all over again for some reason, and some people complaining about artistic intent. Nobody, except the artists, know their intent. Also, it's an option. If you dont like it you can just not enable it. Here is a video with PT and it looks great here. x.com/i/status/20442…
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@WattTheF1ux @mpr_reviews here's re4r an amd sponsored title that doesnt have official pathtracing. its missing shadows.
x.com/SwurvGaming/st…
SwurvGaming@SwurvGaming
Seeing some people say Nvidia paid capcom to "nerf" raytracing and lighting in pragmata. Capcom always had issues with things missing shadows in re engine games. RT on or off. Here's a comparison of RE4R raytracing vs buggyy MODDED pathtracing reference model #pragmata #nvidia
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@SwurvGaming @mpr_reviews It doesn't take a conspiracy to understand resource allocation, when mandates force a PT checkbox, the baseline is starved. Furthermore, admitting the engine has foundational shadow issues proves my point. Slapping a stochastic solver on a broken baseline is peak technical debt.
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Industria 2 is delayed for 2 weeks. They announced this delay.............today the original launch date. 🤣
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@PuselSpielt @mpr_reviews Rt in the engine games never looked good though. Re village, re4r, dragons dogma 2 all had blurry rt reflections, some objects not casting shadows, low level gi. Even re9 the rt only looks good in certain parts. And the 2nd half of the game the rt looks subpar
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@mpr_reviews Something is definitely off. Suddenly RT looks "bad" while PT is getting pushed. I hope it's just a Capcom problem
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It's DLSS 5 discourse all over again for some reason, and some people complaining about artistic intent. Nobody, except the artists, know their intent.
Also, it's an option. If you dont like it you can just not enable it.
Here is a video with PT and it looks great here.
x.com/i/status/20442…
AvgCroissant 🥐@avgcroissant
What’s with all this anti path-tracing propaganda I’m seeing today? The path tracing results in Pragmata looks amazing, and physically correct. Emissives are properly contributing to the lighting, with proper occlusion, reflection, and contact-hardening shadows
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@mpr_reviews @WattTheF1ux Pretty crazy I've seen people say pathtracing looks way worse and then I've seen other people say nvidia paid Capcom to nerf Raytracing 😂
Re engine games always had issues with objects not casting shadows
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@SolidNSnake1985 I'm seeing some revisionist history where people think re village/re4r had amazing Raytracing. But no those games has blurry rt reflections and also had objects not casting shadows. It's very similar rt/lighting for pragmata.
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تكلفة تتبع الأشعة في PRAGMATA ليست عاليه حوالي 12%
جودة تتبع الأشعة على محرك RE ليست عاليه مع اضافة Denoiser (مزيل التشويش) السيء فترى فارق كبير بينه و بين تتبع المسار في الجودة, لكن بالمقابل تكلفتها 75% و ستحصل على صورة ضبابية كما حصل مع RE Requiem بسبب Ray Reconstruction
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@DrKriegerPhD @LumpyTheCook You know this is Raytracing vs pathtracing right? Lol
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This thread is very revealing. The people behind this tech simply do not comprehend how it makes games look more dull. They don’t get it!
Jacob Freeman@GeForce_JacobF
Another example, notice the improved shadows under objects and accurate reflections!
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@JMaine518 yup, they are making like nothing from the RP players. i dont think we'll see gta 6 pc until they figure out how to do RP on their own servers
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@Ryangofett_2490 @JMaine518 oh i also forgot about dragons dogma 2. that was nvidia sponsored and no pathtracing. the rt there was horrible. missing shadows specially at night and low res reflections. i think in general capacom rt has been subpar
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@Ryangofett_2490 @JMaine518 if you compare rt in this game to re village and re4r, its pretty similar. low res reflections and objects missing shadows, low setting rtgi. even re9 in the later levels has rt similar to those titles. only in the beginning/a few areas where re99 rt looks good.
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Yessir. Path Tracing on the PC version of PRAGMATA. I love it here 😌
El Analista De Bits@analistadebits
La versión final de Pragmata tiene Path Tracing en PC y es impresionante. Estamos ante uno de los mejores showcases de esta tecnología gracias a sus escenarios (especialmente reflejos). La diferencia es enorme, incluso más que en RE Requiem. Video: youtu.be/Tk4mJrtIyus
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@frankjason18904 @analistadebits can you show me rt reflections in the amd sponsored capcom games like re villlage and re4remake? do they look like the pathtraced ones? those games also had objects missing shadows too and low level rtgi
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@analistadebits Es increible como Nvidia nos quiere vender el path tracing. Nerfeando al ray tracing. Lo peor de todo es que en consolas solo tendrán ray tracing, o sea, la misma mier... que sin ray tracing.
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La versión final de Pragmata tiene Path Tracing en PC y es impresionante. Estamos ante uno de los mejores showcases de esta tecnología gracias a sus escenarios (especialmente reflejos). La diferencia es enorme, incluso más que en RE Requiem.
Video: youtu.be/Tk4mJrtIyus
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