TheVesuvian

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TheVesuvian

TheVesuvian

@TheVesuvian

It is possible to live The Good Life in the face of potential disaster.

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TheVesuvian
TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
I don't think a divorce between the US and the EU is good for America. I don't think a divorce between the US and the EU is good for the EU. I think a divorce between the US and the EU is good for China.
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TheVesuvian
TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@DanLinnaeus Agreed it really is sad. In a contemporary world of paid operatives and traitors Joe Kent comes across as a simple dupe.
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dan linnaeus
dan linnaeus@DanLinnaeus·
Joe Kent actually believes he’s not ideologically captured. He quit his job as America’s chief counterterrorism officer because we went to war against the largest state sponsor of terror. His new wife works with Iranian state narrative laundromat The Grayzone. But it’s unclear he knows what’s happened to him. It’s authentically sad.
Joe Kent@joekent16jan19

Tapper’s purpose, like the entire corporate media, is to promote this foolish war & attack anyone who points out how this war isn’t in our nation’s interest. Read independent media, Iranian media & US media - always question those cheering on wars & always pray for our troops.

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John Ʌ Konrad V
John Ʌ Konrad V@johnkonrad·
NATO is in far bigger danger than anyone realizes. And the reason has nothing to do with defense budgets. The real danger is psychological. It’s cultural. Europeans didn’t just free-ride on American security for 80 years. They built an entire identity around the idea that they evolved past the Americans protecting them. That identity is now the single biggest obstacle to Western survival. And the darkest irony is: we helped build it. After World War II, Europe wasn’t just economically shattered. Its culture was in ruins. The cities, the universities, the concert halls, the museums. Rubble. The Marshall Plan rebuilt the economy. But culture wasn’t a priority. Not at first. Then the Iron Curtain dropped. And suddenly culture became a weapon. American diplomats, academics, artists & scholars flooded Western Europe. We funded their universities. Supported their orchestras. Rebuilt their museums. Promoted their intellectual life. Not because European culture needed saving for its own sake. Because Eastern Europeans were struggling for Maslow’s mist basic needs. We needed the view from the other side of that Wall to be intoxicating. So America built Western Europe into a showcase of self-actualization. Art. Philosophy. Cafe culture. Long vacations. Universities where people studied literature instead of surviving. We were manufacturing jealousy. And it worked. The Wall came down. But here’s what no one accounted for. When you give a society self-actualization on someone else’s tab long enough, they forget it was a gift. They start believing it was organically theirs. And when they look at the country that funded it all, a country busy building aircraft carriers and semiconductor fabs and shale fields instead of reaching the Maslow’s pinnacle. An overweight American in a ball cap who can’t tell Monet from Pissarro. Who eats fast food. Who drives a truck. Who builds strip malls instead of piazzas. And to a culture trained in aesthetics but stripped of strategic awareness, that American looks uncivilized. So the arrogance takes root. And once a culture decides another is beneath them, they stop listening. Americans say wars are sometimes necessary: crude. Oil is the backbone of prosperity: unsophisticated. Kids build companies in garages that reshape the planet: crass. Wall Street finances the global economy: vulgar. Europe has no world-class technology sector. No military capable of strong defense. No energy independence. No AI capacity. What Europe has is culture. The culture we paid for at the expense of us reaching Maslow’s pinnacle. For decades that was fine. We funded the museums, protected the sea lanes, and tolerated the sneering because the arrangement worked. Then Europeans stopped keeping the contempt private. They started saying it to our faces. In their media. In their parliaments. At every international forum. “Americans are stupid. Americans are violent. Americans are a threat to democracy.” We could have moved the Louvre to NY. We could have built a Venice here. We could have stolen your best artists, designers, philosophers and more… like your conquering armies did for centuries. Instead we funded them. And all we asked for in return was to let us visit. You don’t have the military to defend your borders. You don’t have the technology to compete. You don’t have the energy to heat your homes without begging dictators. What you have is an 80-year superiority complex FUNDED BY AMERICANS, protected by American soldiers, and built on the false belief that self-actualization is civilization. It isn’t. Civilization is the ability to sustain itself. By that measure, Europe isn’t a civilization at all. It’s a dependency with better wine. That’s not a threat. It’s a weather report. Build a Navy. Or don’t. But stop lecturing the people who made you “better than us” Our “crudeness” our “stunted liberal education” our “ugly strip malls” are because we sacrificed our culture to support yours.
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John Roush
John Roush@JohnRou63401193·
So we need to stay married to a cheating whore because if we divorce her then her back door man will get her? This isn’t an argument or spat between a married couple. This is our spouse openly announcing to the entire neighborhood that she is screwing around with anybody willing, just out of spite.
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TheVesuvian
TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@HashemMelech048 It really is unfortunate. I'm sure the usual cast of characters will do their best to exploit it as much as possible.
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Alonzo Harris
Alonzo Harris@HashemMelech048·
@TheVesuvian It’s a bad situation but the info ops you mention already took hold in Europe. It’s not organic how they got to this point. Nothing I can see us being able to do now to fix it. Some have to hurt to realize.
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Alonzo Harris
Alonzo Harris@HashemMelech048·
Everyone needs to read this post. Every European needs to read it three times.
John Ʌ Konrad V@johnkonrad

NATO is in far bigger danger than anyone realizes. And the reason has nothing to do with defense budgets. The real danger is psychological. It’s cultural. Europeans didn’t just free-ride on American security for 80 years. They built an entire identity around the idea that they evolved past the Americans protecting them. That identity is now the single biggest obstacle to Western survival. And the darkest irony is: we helped build it. After World War II, Europe wasn’t just economically shattered. Its culture was in ruins. The cities, the universities, the concert halls, the museums. Rubble. The Marshall Plan rebuilt the economy. But culture wasn’t a priority. Not at first. Then the Iron Curtain dropped. And suddenly culture became a weapon. American diplomats, academics, artists & scholars flooded Western Europe. We funded their universities. Supported their orchestras. Rebuilt their museums. Promoted their intellectual life. Not because European culture needed saving for its own sake. Because Eastern Europeans were struggling for Maslow’s mist basic needs. We needed the view from the other side of that Wall to be intoxicating. So America built Western Europe into a showcase of self-actualization. Art. Philosophy. Cafe culture. Long vacations. Universities where people studied literature instead of surviving. We were manufacturing jealousy. And it worked. The Wall came down. But here’s what no one accounted for. When you give a society self-actualization on someone else’s tab long enough, they forget it was a gift. They start believing it was organically theirs. And when they look at the country that funded it all, a country busy building aircraft carriers and semiconductor fabs and shale fields instead of reaching the Maslow’s pinnacle. An overweight American in a ball cap who can’t tell Monet from Pissarro. Who eats fast food. Who drives a truck. Who builds strip malls instead of piazzas. And to a culture trained in aesthetics but stripped of strategic awareness, that American looks uncivilized. So the arrogance takes root. And once a culture decides another is beneath them, they stop listening. Americans say wars are sometimes necessary: crude. Oil is the backbone of prosperity: unsophisticated. Kids build companies in garages that reshape the planet: crass. Wall Street finances the global economy: vulgar. Europe has no world-class technology sector. No military capable of strong defense. No energy independence. No AI capacity. What Europe has is culture. The culture we paid for at the expense of us reaching Maslow’s pinnacle. For decades that was fine. We funded the museums, protected the sea lanes, and tolerated the sneering because the arrangement worked. Then Europeans stopped keeping the contempt private. They started saying it to our faces. In their media. In their parliaments. At every international forum. “Americans are stupid. Americans are violent. Americans are a threat to democracy.” We could have moved the Louvre to NY. We could have built a Venice here. We could have stolen your best artists, designers, philosophers and more… like your conquering armies did for centuries. Instead we funded them. And all we asked for in return was to let us visit. You don’t have the military to defend your borders. You don’t have the technology to compete. You don’t have the energy to heat your homes without begging dictators. What you have is an 80-year superiority complex FUNDED BY AMERICANS, protected by American soldiers, and built on the false belief that self-actualization is civilization. It isn’t. Civilization is the ability to sustain itself. By that measure, Europe isn’t a civilization at all. It’s a dependency with better wine. That’s not a threat. It’s a weather report. Build a Navy. Or don’t. But stop lecturing the people who made you “better than us” Our “crudeness” our “stunted liberal education” our “ugly strip malls” are because we sacrificed our culture to support yours.

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TheVesuvian
TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@awstar11 Yeah I know. But next level of the game is to apply “hate Israel” propaganda to NATO. I just want people to watch out. Both are meant to weaken us.
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TheVesuvian
TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@ArtCandee Ha ha - now the Dems are so desperate they're claiming Alex Jones. You can keep him.
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Art Candee 🍿🥤
Art Candee 🍿🥤@ArtCandee·
Donald Trump even lost Alex Jones with his unhinged “Praise be to Allah” Easter post threatening war crimes on Iran. 🍿
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Nikita Bier
Nikita Bier@nikitabier·
@NateSilver538 Can you stop quote tweeting without the context? It’s intellectually dishonest.
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Ken Gardner
Ken Gardner@KenGardner11·
This is not the kind of thing that he should be saying publicly. Privately through diplomatic channels is a whole different matter. But no one here cares about whatever problems they have with our idiot POTUS. We’re in a real war and we need to know if we can rely on Europe.
unusual_whales@unusual_whales

Rubio: If Europe won’t allow us to use the bases we man and fund for their defense when we need them we ought to close them down and remove our troops from Europe. If they get attacked by Russia we can discuss whether or not we have the time to help.

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TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@DanBurmawy The real question is why does he continue to get air time on major news networks and why are the booking agents doing it?
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TheVesuvian
TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
If it's divorce China gains. They're probably exploiting this to their advantage. Real issues have to be worked out - but it's best for married couples to fight behind closed doors. The problem has been for decades we didn't want to fight or discuss - we do now. But let's not do it in front of the neighbors and their ogling.
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John Roush
John Roush@JohnRou63401193·
So we should remain in an alliance with a country that has declared itself to be our adversary and is openly trying to organize an alliance against us in the hopes that a different party wins in the future? No. The damage is done. Should Le Penn’s party win they can try and convince us that France could be a trustworthy bilateral ally in the future, but NATO is dead.
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TheVesuvian
TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@S_Coughlin_DC It's all true. And if we're unable to repair the relationship the biggest beneficiary will be China.
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Stephen Coughlin@S_Coughlin_DC·
Worth pondering.
John Ʌ Konrad V@johnkonrad

NATO is in far bigger danger than anyone realizes. And the reason has nothing to do with defense budgets. The real danger is psychological. It’s cultural. Europeans didn’t just free-ride on American security for 80 years. They built an entire identity around the idea that they evolved past the Americans protecting them. That identity is now the single biggest obstacle to Western survival. And the darkest irony is: we helped build it. After World War II, Europe wasn’t just economically shattered. Its culture was in ruins. The cities, the universities, the concert halls, the museums. Rubble. The Marshall Plan rebuilt the economy. But culture wasn’t a priority. Not at first. Then the Iron Curtain dropped. And suddenly culture became a weapon. American diplomats, academics, artists & scholars flooded Western Europe. We funded their universities. Supported their orchestras. Rebuilt their museums. Promoted their intellectual life. Not because European culture needed saving for its own sake. Because Eastern Europeans were struggling for Maslow’s mist basic needs. We needed the view from the other side of that Wall to be intoxicating. So America built Western Europe into a showcase of self-actualization. Art. Philosophy. Cafe culture. Long vacations. Universities where people studied literature instead of surviving. We were manufacturing jealousy. And it worked. The Wall came down. But here’s what no one accounted for. When you give a society self-actualization on someone else’s tab long enough, they forget it was a gift. They start believing it was organically theirs. And when they look at the country that funded it all, a country busy building aircraft carriers and semiconductor fabs and shale fields instead of reaching the Maslow’s pinnacle. An overweight American in a ball cap who can’t tell Monet from Pissarro. Who eats fast food. Who drives a truck. Who builds strip malls instead of piazzas. And to a culture trained in aesthetics but stripped of strategic awareness, that American looks uncivilized. So the arrogance takes root. And once a culture decides another is beneath them, they stop listening. Americans say wars are sometimes necessary: crude. Oil is the backbone of prosperity: unsophisticated. Kids build companies in garages that reshape the planet: crass. Wall Street finances the global economy: vulgar. Europe has no world-class technology sector. No military capable of strong defense. No energy independence. No AI capacity. What Europe has is culture. The culture we paid for at the expense of us reaching Maslow’s pinnacle. For decades that was fine. We funded the museums, protected the sea lanes, and tolerated the sneering because the arrangement worked. Then Europeans stopped keeping the contempt private. They started saying it to our faces. In their media. In their parliaments. At every international forum. “Americans are stupid. Americans are violent. Americans are a threat to democracy.” We could have moved the Louvre to NY. We could have built a Venice here. We could have stolen your best artists, designers, philosophers and more… like your conquering armies did for centuries. Instead we funded them. And all we asked for in return was to let us visit. You don’t have the military to defend your borders. You don’t have the technology to compete. You don’t have the energy to heat your homes without begging dictators. What you have is an 80-year superiority complex FUNDED BY AMERICANS, protected by American soldiers, and built on the false belief that self-actualization is civilization. It isn’t. Civilization is the ability to sustain itself. By that measure, Europe isn’t a civilization at all. It’s a dependency with better wine. That’s not a threat. It’s a weather report. Build a Navy. Or don’t. But stop lecturing the people who made you “better than us” Our “crudeness” our “stunted liberal education” our “ugly strip malls” are because we sacrificed our culture to support yours.

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TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@strxwmxn The only question about Macgregor is why do any news networks continue to book him?
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TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@JohnRou63401193 @johnkonrad Macron is trash. But what happens if Le Pen's party wins the next election? Could easily be an entirely different story. I'm just saying, always bear in mind what China, etc. would prefer to go up against and that these things play out over decades, not years.
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John Roush
John Roush@JohnRou63401193·
@TheVesuvian @johnkonrad Macron publicly called for countries to align with France in opposition to America. We cannot be in an alliance with a nation that has openly declared itself to be our adversary. NATO is dead.
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TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
John always has great posts. Here's what I'm looking for though: our foes are realizing they can't compete technologically or militarily but they've shown some success with turning America and our alliances inside out. They couldn't separate us from Israel but they did damage. I'm expecting them to lean in hard on the current US vs EU fissure to split us up. It's a better ROI for them than an anti-aircraft defense system that the US can wipe out with ease.
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J Michael Waller
J Michael Waller@JMichaelWaller·
Nice, succinct commentary on how Americans revived and preserved European culture after World War II and the roots of how so many European cognoscenti resent us and look down on us.
John Ʌ Konrad V@johnkonrad

NATO is in far bigger danger than anyone realizes. And the reason has nothing to do with defense budgets. The real danger is psychological. It’s cultural. Europeans didn’t just free-ride on American security for 80 years. They built an entire identity around the idea that they evolved past the Americans protecting them. That identity is now the single biggest obstacle to Western survival. And the darkest irony is: we helped build it. After World War II, Europe wasn’t just economically shattered. Its culture was in ruins. The cities, the universities, the concert halls, the museums. Rubble. The Marshall Plan rebuilt the economy. But culture wasn’t a priority. Not at first. Then the Iron Curtain dropped. And suddenly culture became a weapon. American diplomats, academics, artists & scholars flooded Western Europe. We funded their universities. Supported their orchestras. Rebuilt their museums. Promoted their intellectual life. Not because European culture needed saving for its own sake. Because Eastern Europeans were struggling for Maslow’s mist basic needs. We needed the view from the other side of that Wall to be intoxicating. So America built Western Europe into a showcase of self-actualization. Art. Philosophy. Cafe culture. Long vacations. Universities where people studied literature instead of surviving. We were manufacturing jealousy. And it worked. The Wall came down. But here’s what no one accounted for. When you give a society self-actualization on someone else’s tab long enough, they forget it was a gift. They start believing it was organically theirs. And when they look at the country that funded it all, a country busy building aircraft carriers and semiconductor fabs and shale fields instead of reaching the Maslow’s pinnacle. An overweight American in a ball cap who can’t tell Monet from Pissarro. Who eats fast food. Who drives a truck. Who builds strip malls instead of piazzas. And to a culture trained in aesthetics but stripped of strategic awareness, that American looks uncivilized. So the arrogance takes root. And once a culture decides another is beneath them, they stop listening. Americans say wars are sometimes necessary: crude. Oil is the backbone of prosperity: unsophisticated. Kids build companies in garages that reshape the planet: crass. Wall Street finances the global economy: vulgar. Europe has no world-class technology sector. No military capable of strong defense. No energy independence. No AI capacity. What Europe has is culture. The culture we paid for at the expense of us reaching Maslow’s pinnacle. For decades that was fine. We funded the museums, protected the sea lanes, and tolerated the sneering because the arrangement worked. Then Europeans stopped keeping the contempt private. They started saying it to our faces. In their media. In their parliaments. At every international forum. “Americans are stupid. Americans are violent. Americans are a threat to democracy.” We could have moved the Louvre to NY. We could have built a Venice here. We could have stolen your best artists, designers, philosophers and more… like your conquering armies did for centuries. Instead we funded them. And all we asked for in return was to let us visit. You don’t have the military to defend your borders. You don’t have the technology to compete. You don’t have the energy to heat your homes without begging dictators. What you have is an 80-year superiority complex FUNDED BY AMERICANS, protected by American soldiers, and built on the false belief that self-actualization is civilization. It isn’t. Civilization is the ability to sustain itself. By that measure, Europe isn’t a civilization at all. It’s a dependency with better wine. That’s not a threat. It’s a weather report. Build a Navy. Or don’t. But stop lecturing the people who made you “better than us” Our “crudeness” our “stunted liberal education” our “ugly strip malls” are because we sacrificed our culture to support yours.

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TheVesuvian@TheVesuvian·
@bonchieredstate 2026 is the year China, Russia, etc. realize they can get a better ROI on influence ops in the US than some anti-air defense system that gets smoked by America on day one of a conflict. I'm bracing for a lot more.
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