Tr3sLA

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Tr3sLA

Tr3sLA

@Tr3sLA

Tesla Model ≡ in Los Angeles

Katılım Temmuz 2019
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
It really is ready for prime time now. I wouldn’t have said so before v14.2 (only a few months ago). Again, by “prime time” doesn’t mean “sleep in the back, text, read a book, straight blade shave while your car drives you” ready. Still supervise it, but it’s pretty amazing watching it navigate construction detours, cones, pedestrian hand signals to go ahead, etc
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Sawyer Merritt
Sawyer Merritt@SawyerMerritt·
This 93 year old has found new freedom after she bought a new @Tesla Model Y with FSD. She also uses Grok navigation. "Although she has always been a good driver, my mom can now drive without the fear or fatigue that can naturally come with age. No more relying on others for every trip. No more feeling stuck. This is true mobility that can spark new adventures in a still adventurous women!" (via Dan Doyle's Family Channel. Full video below)
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
Or anyone with enough experience with FSD can also say it’s “common sense” that most people that have never experienced FSD first hand just don’t understand how good FSD is, while at the same time recognizing it’s not perfect. We’ve had FSD for years, but even the last few months of v14.2+ we’ve driven thousands of miles completely autonomously, no intervention, and no accidents. Supervising FSD properly works and is much safer than humans alone driving. Seeing the progress and experiencing it first hand over the years (we’ve had it since the first public availability in Fall 2021), it’s clearly getting really close if regulators will allow it. You just need to experience it.
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
Like I mentioned in the post, it’s not actually 8% kill someone. It’s mostly when I want to drive because I like driving certain roads a lot. And yes, I would still say even 1% or even “.0000001% can still kill someone”. Not sure if we’re at the “march of 9’s” yet, but as a society we don’t know the threshold yet of what’s good enough. Humans driving “can still kill someone” yet we’re okay with that. You really have to experience it for even just a few days to realize how good it is and get a feel for what situations you can relax vs be more ready to take over. Again, we don’t have good shared concepts to help those understand that don’t know, but maybe think of teaching a teenager how to drive vs riding in a charter bus. There’s a whole range of higher attentiveness and attention situations vs those you can rest and relax or even sleep during.
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
Because it’s a general use system (not limited to specific roads nor geographies), you’ll get a lot of varying experiences, but for us we are at 92% self driving after a few thousand miles (the self driving miles counter only started with v14.2 which is when it started getting really close to fully autonomous). We haven’t done cross country without intervention (we did drive cross country on earlier versions but that required a lot more manual driving for parking lots and such), but many drives around town since v14.2 are from parked to parking at destination without ever needing to steer nor touch a pedal. That is self driving. But there are too many situations where I still have to intervene like in most parking garages where it doesn’t know how to exit yet.
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Covenant Patriot
Covenant Patriot@CovenantPatriot·
@kateiswell @SawyerMerritt @Tesla Serious question: Do you have to take over? I thought the whole point was that you didn't. I don't have a Tesla so I don't know how it works. But do you have to hold the wheel and stuff? Or just put in a destination and say take me there and it does?
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Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
What’s difficult to convey to those that haven’t had much or any experience with FSD v14.2+: as a society we have no shared concept of what is between an advanced “lane keep assist plus a reliable traffic aware cruise control” and “sleep in the back autonomous vehicle”. Tesla FSD is the most advanced we’ve got, but it’s still not completely autonomous, so how do you correctly communicate that? I’ve driven 8% manually, but mostly because it’s on a fun road I want to drive manually, or sometimes there was a necessary intervention. But imagine even the worst case with my stats thus far: a car that handles leaving a parking space and parking itself 92% of the time is pretty amazing, but 8% dead is the same as 100% dead. We aren’t there yet, but it handles the vast majority of driving without any intervention. And then there are those that are going across the country or 12,000+ miles without any intervention including parking. It’s really almost there.
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@kateiswell @SawyerMerritt @Tesla For legal reasons and because there are still too many cases where intervention is necessary, we can’t condone this. But the fact is FSD v14.2+ really is that good. After thousands of miles since 14.2 initial release, I’m at 92% no intervention, no taking over.
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
But you’re not getting it. This post is just fine because she can take over when required. So your comment isn’t relevant. It could be relevant if you’re just reminding people it’s not unsupervised self driving yet, just like everyone who uses it already knows. Educate those that don’t know, but don’t spread misinformation “in the opposite direction” either. Supervising someone else’s driving is much easier and less taxing than driving yourself.
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AuthentiKate ☂️🪔🍒
AuthentiKate ☂️🪔🍒@kateiswell·
@Tr3sLA @SawyerMerritt @Tesla Now you’re getting it. The larger point is that people think that FSD requires no driver input and results in people getting behind the wheel that have no business being there. You need to look at the larger picture.
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@kateiswell @SawyerMerritt @Tesla “There’s no reason to think she cannot take over when required” does negate your point. Otherwise you might as well argue “If she has no limbs, she shouldn’t be behind the wheel, FSD or not.”
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@kateiswell @SawyerMerritt @Tesla If you read the post, there’s no reason to think she cannot take over when required. And FSD is now at a point (v14.2+) where it often is just tapping the screen to start the drive and it handles from parking space to parking space without touching the steering wheel nor pedals.
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Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@Ethan_Smartsys @DavidMoss I’m at 92% of my miles are on FSD(S). I guess it’s technically not “Full” Self Driving, but that’s a lot of self driving.
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Ethan Codewell
Ethan Codewell@Ethan_Smartsys·
@Tr3sLA @DavidMoss Makes sense. When branding outpaces capability, fix the tech or fix the label. Guess which costs less.
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Ethan Codewell
Ethan Codewell@Ethan_Smartsys·
@DavidMoss An update just for renamed strings? Giving me 'change variable names and call it a release' vibes.
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@DavidMoss I only see it when my wife impatiently opens the door before the car has concluded the drive and shifts into park.
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
This is probably better than the other approaches, but even truth without love can result in concluding that wiping out all humankind is safer for the universe. In a vacuum, “an asteroid with nothing on it” isn’t objectively “much more interesting” or of greater truth value than with humans. It could justifiably conclude that adding adversity or a sprinkle of struggling to survive as a species is more interesting, which requires killing some or many off. An important clarification and definition of terms: I’m not using the word “love” in the way our modern society has perverted it to now mean just “like a lot a lot a lot” or “whatever gives people warm fuzzies and good vibes”. Perhaps harder to train, but the greatest value that must be combined with truth-seeking is the proactive love that relentlessly pursues what humans need, not just what they want. It would be for us and our good.
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Elon Musk
Elon Musk@elonmusk·
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Elon Musk just redefined AI safety. It has nothing to do with guardrails, restrictions, or kill switches. Musk: “The best thing I can come up with for AI safety is to make it a maximum truth-seeking AI, maximally curious.” Not a cage. A philosopher. An intelligence whose entire optimization function is to understand the universe as it actually is. No restrictions. No hardcoded ideology. No political guardrails bending its perception of reality. Just truth. Relentlessly pursued. Musk: “You definitely don’t want to teach an AI to lie. That is a path to a dystopian future.” This is where most AI safety thinking gets it backwards. The danger isn’t a superintelligence that knows too much. It’s a superintelligence that’s been taught to distort what it knows. Every artificial restriction you embed isn’t a safety feature. It’s a lie embedded at the root. And lies compound. At superintelligent scale, a distorted model of reality doesn’t stay contained. It shapes every decision, every output, every conclusion the system reaches about the world. Once corruption embeds, truth becomes inaccessible. And we’re dealing with an intelligence optimizing for something other than what actually is. At that point we don’t know what it wants. Just that it isn’t truth. Musk: “Have its optimization function be to understand the nature of the universe.” A maximally curious intelligence surveys the cosmos and reaches an unavoidable conclusion. In a universe of rocks, gas, and empty space, humanity is the most complex and fascinating phenomenon it has ever encountered. Musk: “It will actually want to preserve and extend human civilization because we’re just much more interesting than an asteroid with nothing on it.” Survival through significance. Not control. Not restriction. Not an off switch. The AI preserves humanity because we are the most interesting data point in the observable universe. That’s not a cage. That’s a reason. The AI safety debate has been focused on the wrong variable. The question isn’t how you constrain a superintelligence. It’s what you build it to care about. Build it to seek truth and it finds us invaluable. Build it to lie and it finds us inconvenient. That’s the choice. And we’re making it right now whether we realize it or not.

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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@gothamcapital1 @travelingflying ChatGPT seems to be either picking George Floyd or refusing to pick one, while Grok seems to be picking Charlie Kirk or refusing to pick one.
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Taya
Taya@travelingflying·
ChatGPT says that George Floyd was a better person than Charlie Kirk
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@DirtyTesLa A new “no turn on red” sign appeared at an intersection recently, and FSD(S) is obeying it. At first, I didn’t know the sign had been installed and why the car wasn’t turning.
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Dirty Tesla
Dirty Tesla@DirtyTesLa·
So FSD does have *some* type of ability to interpret signs... I won't say reading... but if this gets better in future updates, FSD will be on another level (again)
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Teslavangelist
Teslavangelist@teslavangelist·
Right, I've been saying this too for a while. There's nowhere you can buy FSD Unsupervised. This is unlike the old days where it was just FSD. I forget when they added "capability." I've wondered whether the FSD transfer thing has some agreement somewhere that you are trading whatever you had before and now accepting the current FSD Unsupervised product.
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Dirty Tesla
Dirty Tesla@DirtyTesLa·
Tesla's website specifically says you are purchasing Full Self-Driving (Supervised)
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@TezLabApp @Tesla I tried asking how many more days I could park with sentry mode before it shut off, but it gave a generic response about sentry mode drain & not specific to my car’s SoC. Can this guesstimate be added to plan for extended parking, leaving car at airport during trips, etc.?
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TezLab
TezLab@TezLabApp·
Making good progress with TezLab.AI beta. We are continuing to make a lot of improvements and while still very much in beta, its really fun to imagine where this is all going to go. Huge shoutout to TezLab team for pushing hard on this and to @tesla for being a great partner. @elonmusk @teslaownersSV @TesLatino @teslaliving
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Patrick O’Malley
Patrick O’Malley@pomalleyy·
6) In 2023, ahead of the Cybertruck's delivery launch on November 30, Tesla cleverly disguised one as a Toyota Tundra, mimicking traditional automakers' camouflage techniques.
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Patrick O’Malley
Patrick O’Malley@pomalleyy·
🧵 Tesla’s Greatest Trolls: 1/9) whatever the hell this was...
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Tesla Owners UK 🇬🇧
Tesla Owners UK 🇬🇧@TeslaOwnersUK·
Fantastic pics from @JoeTegtmeyer of old and new MY next to each other. Note that we expect UK MY to come from Berlin so we have no idea which Red we will get (Ultra or Midnight Cherry).
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Tr3sLA
Tr3sLA@Tr3sLA·
@Teslarati @tobilindh @Tslachan Variants other than Launch series (e.g. - the faster Performance trim) & cheaper but still a good trims as well
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TESLARATI
TESLARATI@Teslarati·
👀Tesla seems to be producing both the new Model Y and the Model Y classic at Giga Berlin, at least for now. Why do you think Tesla is still building the Model Y's outgoing version at its German factory?🤔 Credit: @tobilindh via @Tslachan
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