Tristin Robert

@VulpineMac @KR3Wmatic Truly not trying to argue. More out of curiosity. Where do you believe all if this came from. And where does our consciousness go when we die?

@KR3Wmatic To be more specific about that First sentence, exactly where did the waters come from that God supposedly stood upon?

Dear athiest, is there anything I can say to convince you that God is real?

@xevekiah Deal.

if abortion is ILLEGAL, men abandoning their pregnant partners should be ILLEGAL too. if women can't opt out of PREGNANCY, then men shouldn't be able to opt out of FATHERHOOD either!

Martin Luther didn't remove them, even had them in his translation as the Apocrapha. That didnt happen officially till 1885. He encouraged people to read it. He said they were informative but not inspiring scripture. Something even St. Jerome felt as he was writing the Latin Volgate. Not arguing of him as non catholic just that he himself had concerns over them. Even as a Protestant I feel it important to read them, it contains good informative. Doesn't mean it is inspired works though. That is where the debate truly is. Are they inspired or not.

@Biblicalman Well seeing as the Catholic Church compiled and canonised the Bible in 382 AD with 73 books, Marty Luther removed 7 when it didn’t suit his narrative in 1517. He wanted to take out more. Then he wrote his own. 🤷🏻‍♂️.

You cannot remove a book from a Bible it was never in.

In short no Jesus's sacrifice was enough, and if we live our lives how He taught us the best, repent our sins, we can join Him in Heaven on day, but we should. I may be in the minority, and this may be a personal opinion. I think reading it gives you context, and a better understanding of what Jesus was teaching us. Allows you to see the true sacrifice He made for us on the cross. I know in my bible study we are working through Isaiah, the Old Testament really put it into context, the punishment that was due us before Christ sacrificed himself for our sins. As I continue to read through the Bible, I am excited to continue to learn more of God's Word and the teachings of Jesus.

Honest question for Protestants: Is reading the Bible necessary for salvation?

Understood, so we should take ancient text writings more literally, without reading the context, or the reactions of the people around them. We should ignore the relevance of this. I feel like this argument you are trying to make is very dangerous. Jesus claimed that BEFORE Abraham, someone that lived hundreds if not thousands of years before Him, HE was. When He was on trial, He was condemned to death for blasphemy, "I AM", claiming the name of GOD as His own. For claiming equality with God in heaven. We can look at even Jesus appearing to Thomas in John 28-29, where it says, "28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” In Hebrew 1:8-9 God claims that His Son will be God. It Says, "8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy."

You’re right on one methodological point: Ancient texts must be read in context. But context also requires linguistic precision and consistency, not selective linking of similar phrases. 1) “I AM” in Exodus is a name revelation to God Book of Exodus 3:14 gives: “I AM WHO I AM” as God’s self-revelation to Moses In Hebrew context, this is tied to YHWH, the covenant name of God. No disagreement there. 2) John 8:58 — interpretation issue, not identity statement Gospel of John 8:58 says: “Before Abraham was, I am.” But note carefully: It is not “I am God” It is not a formal identification formula It is a temporal contrast statement (pre-existence emphasis) So the question is not whether it echoes Exodus language, but whether it functionally equals a direct claim of divinity and that’s where interpretation diverges. 3) “7 I AM statements” argument In John, statements like: “I am the bread of life” “I am the light of the world” are metaphorical predicates, not identity declarations of being YHWH. They describe role, function, or symbolism, not ontological identity. 4) Context cuts both ways If we’re using historical-context reading, then we also must include: Jesus consistently: Prays to God Distinguishes himself from God (“Father is greater than I” – John 14:28) Defines God separately (“the only true God” – John 17:3) That context also matters, and it points to distinction, not identity fusion. You’re not demonstrating “clear statements of divinity” you’re demonstrating theological interpretation of language that can be read multiple ways. That’s why: Trinitarian reading exists Non-Trinitarian Christian readings exist And Islamic readings differ entirely The disagreement is not about whether the text is meaningful, it’s about whether the meaning you’re assigning is the only valid one.

As a Christian, how would you defend your belief that Jesus Christ is God based on the Bible? Let’s see your explanation, point out the Scriptures and clearly show how they reveal that Jesus is God.

Where do we get the scripture if the new testament, but if not from the words and teachings of Jesus Christ. They didn't just fall from the Heavens on doves wings. They were lessons taught my Jesus to his disciples and people of his time. Written down by those disciples then later collected into the book. "...the Word was God."

@TristinAnglin @BillArnoldTeach The Word is not referring to Scripture there. It's referring to Jesus.

Sola Scriptura needs the Bible. The Bible needs the Church. Guess which came first.

If i go to a concert with three friends and afterward you put us in different rooms and tell us what happened at the concert. There are gonna be moment that sounds the same but have some clear differences. The Gospels are the same story told from different point of views. If they were all the exact same that would be strange. Everyone has different experiences and sees things differently.

As a Christian, how would you explain to unbelievers why the four Gospels present different accounts of Jesus’ crucifixion, and why those differences aren’t contradictions? Let’s discuss.

Light isn't the part we are talking about though. In this context. It is the words. In the biblical texts. Gods name is I AM. Exodus 3:13-14 " Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” Leading to John 8:48-59. Your claim is there is no clear verse where Jesus Claims to be God. And i just told you at least 7. When we read ancient texts we need to read it in the context if the time and what those people believed.

@embooso_ @TristinAnglin @Ihunanya_chi Using a term like “light” in a descriptive sense doesn’t make someone God. What matters is nature and status—and those are never shared with anyone besides God. You’re assuming that using a title or description automatically means sharing God’s essence—that’s the mistake.

And that is exactly the mindset the Founding Fathers fought against. The United States was never built on the idea that the many can simply overrun the few. Our system was designed to protect minority rights, force compromise, and make change deliberate. The Electoral College, the Senate, and the Constitution all exist because the Founders understood that pure majority rule can become tyranny just as easily as rule by a king. That is why amendments require not just 2/3 of Congress, but 3/4 of the states to approve. Real change is supposed to be difficult. It should be deliberate, broadly supported, and in the true interest of the nation. Simple majority rule is dangerous. History is full of horrors that were backed by the majority.

@TristinAnglin @BachmannRudi The needs of the many outweighs the needs of the few. The US is an urbanized global power not some backwater country exporting bananas.

Can conservatives from the US explain to me why the VA gerrymander (which was approved by voters) is not OK, while the one in TX and others in the South are? Please make a serious, good-faith effort. No German random posters please. PS: I think all gerrymandering is bad.

@eick74 @CatholicDrip___ Something I have been battling as well in my own journey. I think there is a clear difference between, because of your salvation and faith in Jesus you do good works, and because of your good works you have salvation and faith in Jesus.

Not quite. I’m saying real faith produces works. Paul explicitly separates them as the basis of justification (Romans 3:28), while James critiques a claim of faith that has no evidence (James 2:14-17). Even Ephesians 2:8-10 holds both together: saved by grace through faith… for good works. So no - this isn’t “mental assent only.” It’s that works are the result of salvation, not the cause of it. Dead faith doesn’t save - not because works save, but because real faith isn’t dead.

This verse is very stressful for the Sola Fide Crowd…. James 2:14 “What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?” Can it SAVE him! What you think?💧

@CraigOnan How many of these are there? I have never heard of this. Can you give me some insight?

Sedevacantists do more to cause people to question the legitimacy of Catholicism than the legitimacy of the pope.

@RQ_Spartan @Psychobabble777 So now God is subject to the physics that he created? God lives outside of time, matter, and space. God easily could have stopped the earth and protected all of his creation.

@Psychobabble777 He certainly could stop it. But I am saying that this would trigger instant death. If you are in a car that is going 70mph and you hit a stop it immediately there is a decent chance you would die. Now imagine 10 times this speed and no seatbelt.

If you are a Bible person as I am...then we need to agree that the sun stood still in Joshua 10:12-14. That means the sun moves and not the earth. Again, this is only for Bible people to consider.

So I could be WAY off, but from what I read, just looked into it a bit. Looks like it primarily our of reverence and tradition. Before Jesus, it was considered that the Divine name was too holy to pronounce. So it was replaced with Adonai (Lord) or Elohim (God). So many translators substituted LORD to follow this tradition.

@TristinAnglin @CertainSpeaks Why remove it in the first place

They removed God's name YHWH (Jehovah) over 6,800 times from the Bible and replaced it with the word "Lord" instead. They are Trinitarians.

@lyndarenner25 @BillArnoldTeach Haha thanks, but im my preemptive defense, I never said God's Word was the Bible. But that it became the bible. Everything Jesus taught was written down and relayed to us through the apostles. And now through the bible. But im always happy to be corrected :)

@TristinAnglin @BillArnoldTeach Be careful Tristen... They will put you on blast for using that verse, claiming the God's Word is the Bible.

@TeaDaDeveloper @CertainSpeaks Personally it is not something I have ever dug deeply into. But is a curious question. Maybe someone like @WesleyLHuff may have some more knowledge on the topic. If he has time to reply to this thread.

@oldanon1776 @yellowrosey3 Appreciate it. :)

Please keep studying early Church Fathers…especially the patristic period. So many hate what they think Catholicism is but very few actually hate what it actually is…it is Christ’s Church and it is completely biblical. The Church is God’s gift to humanity…we get to partake in the Last Supper and His passion. I will pray for you and your family and if you have any issues with the Church that seem to stump you…reach out to me…I’m fairly knowledgeable about typology and scripture. I can answer most questions that you may have. There is nothing greater than being in full communion with the Church that Christ built!

I have heard protestants claim that Constantine founded the Catholic Church. How would you concisely rebut that claim?

No, I 100% agree. That is why the constitution is written how it is. It is supposed to be arduous and frustrating. There is supposed to be a civil debate, though they haven't been civil from either side in recent years. That way no one city, county, or area can overpower another. You need some sort of agreement, or overwhelming consensus in one to get something passed. Is there a better process out there, maybe. Is it a true democracy, I don't think so. But I am only one voice, from an urban area. When there is a social consensus on both sides of the aisle to create change, when there is healthy dialogue, that is when the best happens for our country.

@TristinAnglin @BachmannRudi Bro can you empathize at all? Take what you just said and turn it around. Why should a minority in the rurals rule the majority in the cities? By your same logic, rurals know nothing of city life or needs. Fuck I feel like everyone is so goddamn stupid these days.

@oldanon1776 @yellowrosey3 I have been attending a Methodist church with my family. Grew up in a Nazarene church.

I’m fairly certain that Ignatius was the first…but I haven’t read his letters and I don’t want to quote mine him…I’m almost finished with Irenaeus and can absolutely say that he is Catholic with the big C. Ignatius is my next apostolic father to read. 1 Clement writes a letter from the Church of Rome to Corinth…but I don’t believe he used that term. Keep reading the Church fathers and come home to the Catholic Church! Ignatius spent years with John and so I’m excited to start reading his letters. What branch of Protestantism do you belong?

It is a very tough balance, and I feel that is what the electorial college is for. Posted this elsewhere so just copying it over because the point stands here too. There are things that rural communities experience that people in the Urban community would NEVER see. But they are just as important to be voiced. The dangers of mob rule and a pure democracy can be DEVESTATING! That is why the founding fathers created us as a Constitutional Republic. The process is supposed to be arduous and slow. Change need be deliberate and truly get the approval of ALL walks of life and communities.

@TristinAnglin @BachmannRudi How can we respect the voice of the Urban communities where they are not overpowered by the rural ones. It is definitely a challenging balance. Rural communities do not care or have the issues that urban ones do. That is why things like the electoral college is obsolete.