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@balajis BTW, Durov is "free" currently (he is forbidden to leave France however)

CAN TELEGRAM PROVE ENTRAPMENT? Normally Telegram would not be able to lawfully release any of Macron’s Telegram messages. But it is now being reported that Macron invited Pavel Durov to dinner in France, thereby luring him to the country for arrest[1]. The French government apparently denies this. But any such invitation by Macron would likely have been extended in part on Telegram, given that Macron has reportedly been a user for many years[2]. So: Telegram may have the evidence on its servers to show that Macron lured Durov into France. All that remains is for another credible government — perhaps the UAE? — to serve Telegram with a lawful search warrant for evidence on the unlawful detention of its citizen, Pavel Durov. Telegram could then be compelled by legal process to find evidence, if it existed, of Macron entrapping Pavel Durov. And the UAE government could choose to present this evidence to the French government. Or publish it to the world. Needless to say, proof of such skullduggery would be a black eye for France, for Macron, and for anyone in DC who might have been involved with the arbitrary persecution of a tech entrepreneur and his one billion users. Whether the entrapment was illegal or not, it certainly wouldn’t help bring tech investment to France. And France would probably release Durov rather than suffer continuous public humiliation with the (lawful!) release of each new Macron message — should they exist. In this fashion, the Telegram network and the UAE state might join forces to free their CEO and citizen.

@balajis Durov may also just have been lying to avoid/delay arrest

@gave_vincent @CArchiteut16965 @IdLibertes @RnaudBertrand You are confusing things. Le Parquet de Paris is absolutely not known to tilt to the left (its current president actually worked with several right-wing ministers). Le "mur des cons" was in the "Syndicat de la magistrature", which is a magistrates trade union.

But consider the possibility that he is NOT lying (after all, he had the option to say nothing. The executive branch does not need to comment on every action of the judiciary) Consider the possibility that the Parquet de Paris, an organisation that tends to tilt pretty far to the Left (if you are French, you may remember the scandal around the “mur des cons”) did this all by themselves. Why? Why would an organisation that tilts pretty far left follow a course of action to bring a spotlight on something fairly dubious that Macron did, in this PRECISE moment in time?

It just keeps getting weirder. The Canard Enchainé (France's most renowned investigation newspaper) reveals that Pavel Durov told the policemen who arrested him when he landed that he came to have dinner with Macron. Did Macron himself set up a trap to lure Durov to his arrest?

@realstevebennet @RoddyetBetty @balajis Usually, country B gives you a diplomatic passport, notice country A you are coming, and if country A allows, you have diplomatic immunity in country A

@realstevebennet @RoddyetBetty @balajis Diplomatic immunity is given by the country where you are with respect to its laws (and there are usually limitations). So country B can't give you diplomatic immunity with respect to country A's laws

The UAE is closely following Durov's case. France may not be able to hold him prisoner for long.

@adam_cypher @bell2366 @matthew_d_green (In case of End-to-End encryption, the provider can avoid this as decryption is impossible) 3/3

@adam_cypher @bell2366 @matthew_d_green ... you have to decrypt data if requested by a judge. In TG case, most of the conversation are not End-to-End encrypted, and so they have the decryption keys. Then they can be legally forced to decrypt the data. 2/...

So it appears that Pavel Durov has been using cryptography without a license.

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