@joshlofthus We did not come from the ESV. How anachronistic. We came from the Geneva Bible and the KJV. Using a translation that removes male pronouns and uses the critical text instead of the Masoretic is not reformed.
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The hate on the ESV from the โreformedโ crowd just proves how quickly they forget from whence they came.
D. Kofi Adu-Boahen@AKofiCup
I'm not an ESV user but the hate train on the ESV in reformed circles is weird to me.
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@RolandGunnTN Virginia was the home of Lee, Jackson, Jeb Stuart, Dabney and the Capital of the Confederacy. That's why.
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What do you down east people have against Arkansas? Arkansas is easily more Southern than VA
General Will@GamecockWill69
Black Line: The South Red Line: The Deep South NUFD
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@AKofiCup Because it's based on the critical text, replaces male pronouns with gender neutral language, and has been updated four times since its inception without changing the name of the translation to reflect changes. It also was pushed my big eva in a marketing campaign.
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I'm not an ESV user but the hate train on the ESV in reformed circles is weird to me.
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@JaDes6648315746 Because the Ulstermen were a primary fighting force for the Confederacy when the Irish Catholics fought for the Union.
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@__Conall The UVF was the hand of the British, Why would you put that on a Confederate Flag, The Confederates were made to fight a Goverment just like that which the UVF Protected and wanted to stay apart of
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@MikeBowden3655 They would have also called it the "Lord's Supper" as the Presbyterians. I'm not aware of any American Episcopals who refers to it as the Mass.
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@MikeBowden3655 "Mass" in the Papist sense would have been against the 39 Articles that the TEC held.
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He wasn't sympathetic to Rome in his life after becoming Presbyterian to my knowledge. He looked into it when he was searching for a tradition, but ultimately decided on Presbyterianism after someone gave him a copy of either the catechism or WCF.
Miles Smith IV@IVMiles
Whatโs interesting about Stonewall Jackson isโwhile he was a certainly a dutiful churchmanโhe didnโt have โthickโ **theological** commitments. He was sympathetic to Rome and a baptized Episcopalian who only spent the last few years of his life in his wifeโs Presbyterian faith.
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@MikeBowden3655 I don't believe American Episcopals would have celebrated "Mass". They were Reformed. Eucharist doesn't equal Mass.
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@__Conall He also went to Anglican Mass with General Lee.
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@GoodmanDelver @IVMiles He wasn't after becoming Presbyterian. He looked into it when he was fighting in the Mexican American war when he was searching out traditions.
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Whatโs interesting about Stonewall Jackson isโwhile he was a certainly a dutiful churchmanโhe didnโt have โthickโ **theological** commitments. He was sympathetic to Rome and a baptized Episcopalian who only spent the last few years of his life in his wifeโs Presbyterian faith.
Bushwhacker@anglotradboy
How many times do I have to tell you people. Stonewall Jackson wasnโt a puritan. He was a Covenanter
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@imurhuckberry @IVMiles Came here to say this. It is far from saying he was "sympathetic" to the Papacy in his years as Presbyterian.
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@IVMiles He looked into Catholicism during Mexican war, but became pretty devout Presbyterian in 1851 (Age 27), so a majority of his adult life. Both wives were daughters of Presbyterian ministers, and he had already joined the church before meeting and marrying his first wife in 1853
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I think @michaeljknowles should have you on the show to talk about this.
Stephen Wolfe@PerfInjust
@michaeljknowles Honestly, there really is nothing distinctly Roman Catholic that influenced the American founding, and the founding repudiates much of what Rome taught at the time concerning the church's power vis-a-vis the state.
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Every Reformed Protestant affirmed natural law until recently. @michaeljknowles
This is just a really bad talking point that Roman Catholics have repeated over and over.
Russ Greene@GreenPlusAnE
Michael Knowles: some on the right claim the American founding was โirredeemably liberal and Protestant.โ โI am not persuaded by that.โ Points to natural law influence, etc.
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Miles wants you to know that his upcoming book on Southern Presbyterians(which of course is just a coincidence that it is coming out around the same time as @ZacharyGarris and @irishpresby book) will clear this up.
Miles Smith IV@IVMiles
The Witherspoonian proposition. Glad @RevKevDeYoung lays it out in laymanโs terms. Have Presbyterians believed their religion is political? Yes, because the church is the chief moral catechizer of the American people. More of this in my upcoming book with @WestminsterTS Press.
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@tom_barmadillo The Pope of Moscow?
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โThey are drunks, whose bellies growl with great drinking and are gluttons whose stomachs are overfilled until their double chins hang down.โ- Jan Huss on the Roman Catholic priests
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โIn a word, the papal institution is full of poison, antichrist himself, the man of sin, the leader of the army of the devil, a limb of Lucifer, the head vicar of the fiend, a simple idiot who might be a damned devil in hell, and a more horrible idol than a painted log.โ
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You will never guess what this is in response to.
Joseph D. McBride, Esq.@McBrideLawNYC
@Joseph_Spurgeon St. Patrick was a 5th century Catholic bishop. In his Letter to the Soldiers of Coroticus, he describes administering the sacraments to those who were later martyred: โThe baptized and confirmed are murderedโฆ newly baptized, anointed with chrism, still in white garmentsโฆโ
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Hard hitting commentary on the events of the day from the R2K folks.
Presbycast@presbycast
You may not believe itโwe didn'tโbut these are incredibly good and nail the flavor profile perfectly with fragrant smokiness and just-right light vinegar notes. We bought them to deride them, but we are here to praise them! Can't say whether any pigs were harmed in the process.
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