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#DEFCON7 Katılım Mart 2025
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c2x5@_c2x5·
@Pumpfun You'll get rekt either way in this market.
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Pump.fun@Pumpfun·
which way, western man?
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c2x5@_c2x5·
@daumenxyz "They CANNOT be implemented. Legit, tech-wise, it CANNOT be done on the SOL blockchain." You can make tokens unique and unvampable, take a look at @anoncoinit, please educate yourself. Before anything gets deployed, you can do a lot of checks tech-wise, you're not making sense.
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Daumen@daumenxyz·
It's time I finally say my take on this PVP situation. What we're witnessing in recent weeks is total ignorance from current market participants, and let me be clear on what this means. > You should trench, sell, stack profits, rinse low caps, sure. I'm fine with that; I do it as well. > You should also be aware that current conditions and participants are VERY DIFFERENT from the ones 6 months ago: 1) The main characters of today - and I love most of these guys - dominate the low cap space. And this means, the more tokens appear there, the more they make. The more they make, the bigger they get. The bigger they get, the more the scalping mindset spreads. 2) So, the goal becomes: how can I keep increasing activity in this market cap range? I vamp it with a new logo, with a new name, with a new fee split structure; on a new launchpad; with the owner onboard, etc. How do I get away with it? I blame it on Pump. -- And let me interrupt here to mention that I vamped tokens with these assumptions as well; I'm no saint. I am just educated enough to understand the underlying reasons -- And if you are questioning whether I am right or wrong, I will give you 2 prime examples: 1) I saw a 60k follower account, two days ago, posting how Pump made the Mayhem bot to extract 8M from the trenches. This is the same as saying that Pump made a technology that no one else in the world could do: a self-trading bot that made 8M in profit (lmao). Sure, on top of it being a billion dollar revenue company (they really need 8M). 2) Old bagworking KOLs dming me (yesterday) to take initials on generational coins like $Punch or $TripleT . Guys who used to bagwork with me now call it a W at 3-4M. -> this is a bottom signal btw. Why is this important? You cannot mimic top trenchers. You can make money trenching, sure. But you cannot mimic them. You gotta understand that trenching is the same as playing a game. Just because you like Call of Duty, doesn't mean you can play ranked or you'll be good at it. that So, 99% of the people who view these streams, they will lose. And because they don't understand/cannot see it's a lack of skill, they will spread whatever reason current participants feed them; in this case, "f*ck these launchpads". And they'll go back to vamping it and making sure they can deploy as many versions of this as possible. Where do we go from here? These people who joined, they've never seen 7-fig pnls. The only one they've seen is prob Remus, who, by the way, decided to FUD current runners recently for some reason. But that gave a glimpse of hope. And this is understandable, SOL at 80-90, biggest narrative worldwide at 12M. I understand you. But please stay educated. Stay humble. You've got to understand that we're not in a full-on bull market. But these huge runners will NEVER leave us. I don't care what game you play (sizing, trenching, whatever), as long as you remain educated. Oh, and by the way, 99% of the suggestions like "block these tokens from being deployed", they CANNOT be implemented. Legit, tech-wise, it CANNOT be done on the SOL blockchain. Please educate yourselves. Shoutout to both trenchers and size players that play their game without fudding or spreading fake narras. I recently came across this very good trencher @redemptionjizzy , who absolutely dominates the trenches, but somehow is sizing amazing memes like $Punch and $TripleT , and keeping the dream alive. I also try to do both, whenever I can. Man, I've been going for too long. Stay humble.
json@json1444

PVP has been a massive point of contention over the past few days, and many plead for a fix from the launchpad layer. however, I believe the causation of PVP is misguided and isn’t the result of the launchpad, but a result of: 1) broader liquidity leaving the market 2) behavioral problems it’s no secret that we’re in a bear market & more liquidity has left the market than has entered over the past 6 months, hence why ceilings are much lower & opportunity feels scarce with lower liquidity & lower ceilings comes the desire to find edge elsewhere. if traders know they’re not going to succeed holding, and they can't beat other traders, there may be edge in redeploying an already successful coin; whether it’s under the guise of a better ticker, image, has tracked wallets, fee distributions, etc. while I think this behavior is incredibly destructive, I believe it is a permanent pendulum, and I believe we're currently at the extreme end of that pendulum, which is why we’re experiencing incessant & unrelenting PVP compared to what we see in a bull market (PVP exists, but faces nowhere near the level of participation as we see now)

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c2x5@_c2x5·
@poe_real69 Of course you can, would those behaviors left unpunished in a regulated market? No. We're in DeFi, we can't track its hard to track all the bad actors, but we can enforce regulations at the launchpad.
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POΞ ⚡️@poe_real69·
If the users don't like pvp stop buying and supporting them as a whole. We can not solve human behavior and greed through a launchpad. Crypto is a free and open space where users/ the market will decide which direction a coin should head in. Everyone likes to talk but actions / wallets speak louder then words. This isn't a launchpad issue this is a community issue.
json@json1444

PVP has been a massive point of contention over the past few days, and many plead for a fix from the launchpad layer. however, I believe the causation of PVP is misguided and isn’t the result of the launchpad, but a result of: 1) broader liquidity leaving the market 2) behavioral problems it’s no secret that we’re in a bear market & more liquidity has left the market than has entered over the past 6 months, hence why ceilings are much lower & opportunity feels scarce with lower liquidity & lower ceilings comes the desire to find edge elsewhere. if traders know they’re not going to succeed holding, and they can't beat other traders, there may be edge in redeploying an already successful coin; whether it’s under the guise of a better ticker, image, has tracked wallets, fee distributions, etc. while I think this behavior is incredibly destructive, I believe it is a permanent pendulum, and I believe we're currently at the extreme end of that pendulum, which is why we’re experiencing incessant & unrelenting PVP compared to what we see in a bull market (PVP exists, but faces nowhere near the level of participation as we see now)

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c2x5@_c2x5·
@json1444 You are lying, pumpfun makes more money if coins never escape 85k mcap. x.com/_c2x5/status/2…
c2x5@_c2x5

@Ga__ke +0.90% of the fees straight into pumpfun pockets, then they only take +0.05% once they are above 85k mcap, 99.9% of the coins never make it past that. That's how they extracted 1B. There will never be a fix for the slop and the pvp from pumpfun.

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json@json1444·
PVP has been a massive point of contention over the past few days, and many plead for a fix from the launchpad layer. however, I believe the causation of PVP is misguided and isn’t the result of the launchpad, but a result of: 1) broader liquidity leaving the market 2) behavioral problems it’s no secret that we’re in a bear market & more liquidity has left the market than has entered over the past 6 months, hence why ceilings are much lower & opportunity feels scarce with lower liquidity & lower ceilings comes the desire to find edge elsewhere. if traders know they’re not going to succeed holding, and they can't beat other traders, there may be edge in redeploying an already successful coin; whether it’s under the guise of a better ticker, image, has tracked wallets, fee distributions, etc. while I think this behavior is incredibly destructive, I believe it is a permanent pendulum, and I believe we're currently at the extreme end of that pendulum, which is why we’re experiencing incessant & unrelenting PVP compared to what we see in a bull market (PVP exists, but faces nowhere near the level of participation as we see now)
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c2x5@_c2x5·
c2x5@_c2x5

@Ga__ke +0.90% of the fees straight into pumpfun pockets, then they only take +0.05% once they are above 85k mcap, 99.9% of the coins never make it past that. That's how they extracted 1B. There will never be a fix for the slop and the pvp from pumpfun.

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json@json1444·
a common rebuttal to my take on PVP is that with every new launchpad update comes another excuse to PVP. whilst I don’t believe the new updates are the cause, they may lead to discrepancies between expectations of what types of tokens should run for certain narratives, but these edge cases ultimately resolve as market participants adapt to changes - don't be psyoped into nuking your conviction bags! additionally, there are unjust claims that pump fun benefits more from PVP: for any avoidance of doubt, pump fun makes *more* money if we have more runners. yes, pump’s fee structure is higher on the bonding curve, but high market cap runners undoubtedly lead to more liquidity, more participants & more fees for pump fun. PVP merely forces liquidity & participants out of the market & isn't good for pump nor its users
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c2x5@_c2x5·
@json1444 Revoke access to the deploy API, make it so that people can deploy from the pumpfun web/app only.
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on@Kingstaccz·
This is probably one of the saddest pages I have ever seen I just saw them post news because someone was up $3,000 💀 Pumpfun wtf are u guys doing with this “news channel”
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scooter@imperooterxbt·
I have nothing but hate and negativity inside my soul. I have no aspirations, no life goals, no anything but just the urge to spread hate and negativity. Maybe I can become the most hater person on twitter if I work hard enough.
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LJC@OnlyLJC·
@0xBiZzy Bizzy please do not leak the sauce we gonna have so much LP it gonna take 200k$ to move a coin from 2m to 3m and we will get 0,2% fees 🤣
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bizzy@0xBiZzy·
Honestly when you are trading solana coins it just makes sense to use LP's because of how often things fully retrace. At least you reduce your entry and give yourself a little more leeway in the case it does retrace. This one has averaged 7-10% per day..
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c2x5@_c2x5·
@jackduval Greed will be the death of us all.
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Jack Duval🌊@jackduval·
btw paid fud campaigns against terminals/launchpads in the name of stifling competition is clown activity second hand embarrassment watching it honestly and this is coming from the number 1 critic of every founder and platform in the space
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c2x5@_c2x5·
@xfilesboy Meanwhile, pumpfun is printing. x.com/_c2x5/status/2…
c2x5@_c2x5

@Ga__ke +0.90% of the fees straight into pumpfun pockets, then they only take +0.05% once they are above 85k mcap, 99.9% of the coins never make it past that. That's how they extracted 1B. There will never be a fix for the slop and the pvp from pumpfun.

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Files (阴阳 arc࿊.)
How the trenches are working: Elon POSTS A dog 1st coin : bundlers spawn a coin at 30k with 28 wallets in, you got drilled at 60k, OH FUCK he forgot to add cashback!!! -80% 2nd coin : This one might go cause it finally has cashback, oh wait they found an Elon wallet/github? Redirect the fees, he will claim for sure!!! 3rd coin: fee split to Elon wallet/github, oh fuck the dev didn't lock the authority, he just rugged us, what if we bid an Agent tek? 4th coin: you bought the agent tek coin, it promises to do 100% buybacks on your coin or burn, but the dev doesn't have a j7 tracker to auto deploy it so the tek is useless and its not working. 5th coin: OXSTRATEGY deploys the real one!!! he bought 50% of supply and extracted 80 SOL at 30k, ok this might be the real one cause he devved it and every runner in the future will be devved by him @a1lon9 #reversethechanges
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Ban@Bancrypto__·
Everybody is complaining about trenchers and bundlers killing coins. Why is it a problem to wait until the trenchers and bundlers have killed eachother and the coin is dead? Why are you buying when you clearly know and see cented and cupsey is in? All I hear is cope and cope
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c2x5@_c2x5·
@Linkkzyy They make more revenue when there's PVP. x.com/_c2x5/status/2…
c2x5@_c2x5

@Ga__ke +0.90% of the fees straight into pumpfun pockets, then they only take +0.05% once they are above 85k mcap, 99.9% of the coins never make it past that. That's how they extracted 1B. There will never be a fix for the slop and the pvp from pumpfun.

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linkzy@Linkkzyy·
The solution to PVP is incredibly simple. However it’s a matter of profit. Why would the present launchpads sacrifice earning more money to fix the issue? The only solution now is an incredibly well funded new launchpad with a stacked team that is not greedy.
Jack Duval🌊@jackduval

one of my biggest goals this year is to figure out and help push solutions to limit the incessant pvp in the trenches pvp in some shape or form will always exist, and i myself have definitely engaged in pvp (as have most traders to some extent) but this is one of the few issues that majority of the space agrees on and it's long overdue for a change

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c2x5@_c2x5·
@himothy @exitliquid1ty @AxiomExchange Wait until all other platforms have those exact features in a few months (some of them already do). Pumpfun loves the slop, rugging, mass deploys and the PVP. That's how they make money. x.com/_c2x5/status/2…
c2x5@_c2x5

@Ga__ke +0.90% of the fees straight into pumpfun pockets, then they only take +0.05% once they are above 85k mcap, 99.9% of the coins never make it past that. That's how they extracted 1B. There will never be a fix for the slop and the pvp from pumpfun.

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cap@himothy·
@exitliquid1ty @AxiomExchange - Sets the standard that people can use up to 40 wallets - Creates anonymous mass wallet funding to bundle rug - Creates a folder feature for bundlers to neatly organize there bundles - Gives known bundler ruggers KOL bubbles to help people get rugged - 🧢
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cap@himothy·
Dear @AxiomExchange please take this serial deployer farmer affiliation badge off of my X account
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☿️ T3tra@T3tra333·
pvp is killing memecoin trading pumpfun has no interest in fixing it, why? cuz it makes them more money we can solve pvp @controldeploy 1 narrative will = 1 coin all liquidity will flow in 1 direction
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c2x5@_c2x5·
@FakeRosaParkXBT You are blaming the Trading terminals when you should actually be blaming the launchpad. Its is built to extract. x.com/_c2x5/status/2…
c2x5@_c2x5

@Ga__ke +0.90% of the fees straight into pumpfun pockets, then they only take +0.05% once they are above 85k mcap, 99.9% of the coins never make it past that. That's how they extracted 1B. There will never be a fix for the slop and the pvp from pumpfun.

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c2x5@_c2x5·
c2x5@_c2x5

@Ga__ke +0.90% of the fees straight into pumpfun pockets, then they only take +0.05% once they are above 85k mcap, 99.9% of the coins never make it past that. That's how they extracted 1B. There will never be a fix for the slop and the pvp from pumpfun.

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space Ξ@spacexbt·
genuinely asking myself how pump fumbles on every update.. is it on purpose? every new mechanism adds up to getting vamp'd by more tokens/more pvp there're like 5 ways now to pvp differently it's neither fun for traders nor deployers idk if it's pure alon j@w mode, cuz they are actively and/or knowingly, destroying it by releasing new vamping methods every few weeks to inflate volume and revenue.. to this day i wonder myself how pumps trenches would look like if there would be a 0.5-1sol deployer fee? how many deployers will be gone, how many would know if it's worth to deploy a narrative with a cost behind it
json@json1444

the trenches are either close to a bottom or have bottomed the timeline has been quieter than ever, sentiment has been awful, yet every single one of us are here under one belief: retail will come back, liquidity will come back, and we will all make it I believe.

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c2x5@_c2x5·
@Ga__ke +0.90% of the fees straight into pumpfun pockets, then they only take +0.05% once they are above 85k mcap, 99.9% of the coins never make it past that. That's how they extracted 1B. There will never be a fix for the slop and the pvp from pumpfun.
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gake@Ga__ke·
the pvp leads to less faith leads to more pvp leads to less faith leads to more pvp leads to less faith leads to ceilings at 50k mcap
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