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@_liamxyou_ @turningmystile No, there isn't. It's the same thing. They're both just short guys.
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@supesbutch importantly i also did not say no trans men experience "female typical" socialization.
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everyone is socialized under the patriarchy and misogyny. i think “female socialization, male socialization” is unhelpful terminology, but it’s ignorant to say that trans men, especially ones perceived as women, don’t face unique socialization under the patriarchy and misogyny +
violasses@v1olasses
@plutostraz @karnivor9 a third thing: dysphoric trans men aren't socialized as women and dysphoric trans women aren't socialized as men
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@supesbutch your argument that trans men's socialization is automatically closer to cis women's than vice versa. cis men can be gender nonconforming and not experience "male typical" socialization. youre making a claim about patterns that i doubted.
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@turningmystile im gonna decide that if you are 5'6" + saying this maybe you shouldnt speak for other people
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@turningmystile i'm dysphoric about my height and i see it as seperate from social insecurity about it. being short as a man doesn't matter much to me, its being as short as i am
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@supesbutch fair enough, i will agree to disagree. both your original post and the comment you are replying to have a somewhat generalized take on trans men's experiences of socialization which, imo, is always going to contradict a lot of people's lived experiences
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@_liamxyou_ and thats ur experience ? but clearly many others resonate with the experience i was describing. again, i never said ALL or that it was the same. but a shared experience with misogyny with regards to perceived gender can exist for many ppl.
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@supesbutch and i don't think there's more inherent similarity between trans men and cis women than vice versa. ive been treated as an androgenous weirdo most of my life, most cis women don't have that gendered experience, some do.
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@_liamxyou_ no one said they were treated like the average man or average woman. but especially closeted trans ppl or trans children who have yet to know theyre trans may still rightfully notice similarities between their experience with socialization as compared to other identities
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@supesbutch cis men are just as affected, shaped, etc by gender as anyone else. having certain privelege does not equal some kind of non-gendered experience
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@supesbutch and imo creating that seperation just doesn't make sense. there's a myriad of factors that affect one's experience of gendered socialization. gender nonconforming people (which a lot of trans people are pretransition) are not being treated like the average woman or average man.
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Cis guys who think they’re too short are 5’9. I am 4’11. I don’t really think it’s the same thing
James@turningmystile
My response to trans guys who think they're too short is actually the exact same as my response to cis guys who think they're too short: you're just gonna have to get over it big dawg
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@supesbutch nah i read it and simply disagreed with it. being seen as male and as female intimately effect people's lives. being a man and being seen as male is as much of a gendered experience as being seen as female.
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@hardpietdepsi @turningmystile If you can afford it and dont care for athleticism
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@ZogFatigue @StelioKontos67 @ContraPoints Legality of substance use and the whole idea of illicit vs “justified” use is heavily determined by social and cultural norms not some objective construct.
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@StelioKontos67 @ContraPoints The medicinal use of legal or controlled substances isn't the same in its purpose, outcome or cultural associations as the recreational use of illicit substances. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.
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I apologize to the reefer addict community. You’re not like other junkies, I get that now. You just need natural plant-based spirit medicine to kill your ego, namaste. Wait are you on drugs right now? Yeah it’s really obvious, everyone can tell. What the hell
Natalie Wynn@ContraPoints
This would’ve been devastating to half the people I knew in 2009
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@starbennettt justifying moralizing appearance purely due to him being a man is interesting. Just don’t claim solidarity with marginalized men in that case. As a trans man I’ve struggled my whole life with feeling I’ll always look embarassing/wrong /uncanny as a guy because of my features.
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i know ppl are gonna have their justifications of calling him ugly im not really here to argue against it but i think you can’t claim to care about getting rid of harmful beauty standards if you continue to moralize beauty the way you all do
Best Cine Moments 🍿@SceneinCinema
Barry Keoghan says hate about his looks made him “not want to go outside.” The actor, known for Saltburn and Dunkirk, revealed he faced “disgusting commentary” online, especially after his split from Sabrina Carpenter, which led him to delete ig. “There’s a lot of hate online… a lot of abuse of how I look,” he said. “It’s made me really go inside myself… not want to attend places, not want to go outside.” “It’s becoming a problem… because then you don’t even want to be on screen anymore.”
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well tbh trans men barely put any effort into transitioning and they’re still praised for being a man but if trans women slightly deviate from femininity they get dogpiled on so it’s deserved
seras Victoria of shedtwt@Sharpsho0ter_
that last part was not necessary?
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@kaiisyourking Its almost like he didn't ask for your opinion on his body?
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Prob one of the most disgusting physical traits a cisman can ever possess
QG do POP@QGdoPOP
Homem CHOCA ao mostrar rotina de cuidados capilares. Fariam?
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you're a nontransitioner who never got further than binding your chest trying to ride the "irreversible damage" grift. what would you even know about transitioning maia? my culture is not your costume. lmao
Maia Poet🦎@thepeacepoet99
Teen girls (like the one I was) who think they’re transgender 🏳️⚧️, are being told it’s safe and reversible to bind their breasts. But here’s what girls like me were NEVER told: That not only will long-term binding destroy our healthy breasts, but potentially our skin, lungs, nerves, necks, and spines as well. That this damage only gets more painful with time, not less. That we will live with lasting pain and disfigurement to our chests sustained because of breast binding, whether we continue onto mastectomy or whether we do not. That mastectomy will not ‘erase’ or undo the harms of binding. Those who argue that “gender affirming” breast binding is “just social transition” akin to a change of clothes are either simply ignorant or they are simply LIARS. I am done mincing words here. I no longer care whether the people who peddle these dangerous ideas via bad arguments call themselves trans activists, gender critical activists or detransition activists. An identity label or activist label of any kind does not entitle one to blatantly mislead the public about the most common source of transition-related injuries that young women experience. Breast/chest binders are medical devices with approved clinical uses in post-surgical recovery for very short periods of time under strict medical supervision to monitor harms. There is no legitimate medical reason for a healthy girl or woman to be compressing her entire upper body (especially during development) for 8-12 hour days, stretching into months and then into years at a time. It will neither make her happier, nor healthier, nor more functional. It will only damage her body, cause her a potential lifetime of devastating pain and make her desperately want her now irreparably damaged breasts, removed. How do I know? Because I was one of those young women who was lied to. Because my whole generation was lied to. And because so many people, both trans activists and gender critical activists continue to equivocate about “safe” ways to bind your breasts without so much as study showing it can be done safely. Thank you to the team at @genspect including the spirited, determined and energetic @stellaomalley3 for giving me a platform to raise awareness about the cause of (by far) the most common but least discussed sources of transition injuries faced by young women, and of course, for allowing me to share my thoughts on gender identity ideation, desistance, detransition and to say a few words on how these themes overlap with autism.
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@KaidenMcSmaiden @ginnnnnn05 youre wrong . transitioning gave me male physiological features. aspects of bio sex are highly mutable.
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@ginnnnnn05 Transition doesn't change one's biological sex, whether you transition fully or not you're both still in the same boat. Choosing to transition is a personal and societal choice but it doesn't make you "more of a man" than someone who hasn't transitioned.
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