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@DomFarrell1986 @9320pod Oh, are City in a cup final this weekend?

Ooohh, no one cares about City discourse is back! Can I recommend a book that unpacks it? amazon.co.uk/Glory-Days-Wai…

@HydroFoundry @nmeoftheright @_OKJ__ But the holocaust happened in living memory and there are many accounts around it directly available, therefore it’s logical to have an opinion on it. You’re shameless.

@nmeoftheright @_OKJ__ You are making a claim similar to the OP that if you didn’t experience it directly it does not matter. I am taking an extreme case to make a point. That is what you do when you are making logical arguments- stretch it to an extreme to test an idea.

This reminds me of a fascinating story I read,of when in the 1970s Daniel Everett,a linguist and Christian went to the Amazon jungle to convert a tribe called the piraha people to Christianity and completely failed for one crazy reason 😂😂 When Daniel Everett arrived with his wife and kids at the remote Pirahã village in the Amazon, His mission was clear…learn their language,translate the New Testament,and convert this isolated hunter gatherer group to Christianity. What he encountered instead was one of the most radical cultural and linguistic worldviews ever documented 😂. From his experience,Everett eventually formalized what he called the “Immediacy of Experience Principle”. What this means in essence is the Pirahã culture and grammar strongly constrain what can be meaningfully discussed or believed…to them,knowledge must be anchored in direct,personal observation or at most in the recent testimony of living people you know. Things that happened long ago,that no one alive has seen,or that exist only in abstract or supernatural realms fall into the category of what they called xibipío (“gone out of experience”). They don’t deny it outrightly.. to them, such things simply carry no weight and are not worth serious talk. This principle shapes everything for them… and is why they have No creation myths or origin storis , No numbers beyond rough quantities like “a few” or “many.” , No recursive embedding in grammar (you can’t easily say “kelvin’s brother’s house” … you say two separate sentences). Their Stories and discourse stay tethered to the here and now. Now Christian theology, by contrast, is built on precisely the kind of claims the Pirahã worldview filters out…A distant creation,Miracles and events from thousands of years ago, A savior no living person has met, Salvation and afterlife described in ancient texts. Everett tried …He told them the story of Jesus..his birth,teachings,death,and resurrection. The Pirahã listened politely,then asked the questions their language and culture demanded… “Have you met this man?” “Did you see him?” “Did your father see him?” When Everett admitted he had not , that these events happened 2,000 years earlier and were known only through a book,the conversation effectively ended 😂. “That’s interesting,” some of them would say, treating the Gospel the same way they treated any other distant tale…as something outside lived experience, therefore irrelevant to how they live and what they believe. Notice It wasn’t hostile rejection(like the one you’d get from the people of the sentinel islands in India). It was epistemological incompatibility. The theology couldn’t even gain traction because their entire system of knowledge validation rejected second hand ancient testimony. Everett kept trying for years. He failed to produce a usable Bible translation. Meanwhile, living among people who were profoundly content, generous, and empirically grounded …with no concept of sin, eternal punishment, or a distant deity. By 1982 he himself started havinv serious doubts about his beliefs and by 1985 he had quietly become an atheist. The man who had come to convert the Pirahã had instead been “converted” by their way of seeing reality.😅 As Everett later wrote and said in interviews, the deepest challenge wasn’t an argument against Christianity. It was living inside a culture where the very criteria for what counts as real knowledge made supernatural historical claims feel as weightless as yesterday’s dream. The Pirahã didn’t need to debate theology. Their language and worldview simply had no slot for it and, in the process, they helped a missionary lose his faith without ever raising their voices.😂 Makes you wonder, what would a Christian say the fate of these people is? Eternal torment? We can all see how that would be problematic. Would they somehow make heaven and get judged by how they live their lives? But That would make the whole Christian message irrelevant. 🙂

@bailey_wynne2 All stacks up until you use your eyes to watch literally any winger pep has had at city apart from Grealish and Bobb

The universe will end before people finally learn where Grealish went wrong. It's always about using his failure in the last two seasons to drive the narrative they want, not analysing the situation and then coming to a conclusion.

@DomFarrell1986 youtu.be/FduHJf9L500?si…

"corners have never been aesthetically pleasing" youtu.be/o8l63Ux-9sE?si…

@9320pod To be fair, the people got Wht they asked for. Years of moaning City ruining the league with passing football and teams copying it. Now it’s all wrestling in penalty boxes. Be careful What you wish for eh

Liverpool fan unironically making Charlie’s point.

@BD_at_Blackrock @slbsn Check the comments, Everton, Chelsea spurs fans complaining about by ow hard it is to transfer STs. Same at city Pool and Utd. Hopefully will be a big wake up call for execs across the league

@slbsn AND.....long standing match day fans at several clubs feeling the clubs attitude towards them is acrimonious at best

There is an issue across the game. Over supply, too many TV games, too expensive, too many other competing spends

@BillyCampbell_1 Because it was after the initial foul and not a red card offence so deemed irrelevant

@9320pod VAR to mysteriously break down

All of them. Every time.

@bailey_wynne2 @slbsn Ironically Khusanov has shades of Kompany. Quick, strong, aggressive defender that’s maybe a bit rash… Vinnie was also 2 years older and played midfield for us for at least a season.

@slbsn Funny how he says it's his 'question' like he's stuck on that point, not moved into thinking about it at all.

I can’t understand why Khusanov isn’t yet at a prime John Stones/Ruben Dias/Vincent Kompany leadership level. It’s a real mystery

@footballoracle5 @Noelb71Noel @Mr_Riqz It was a 48k capacity stadium then… looks 80% full to me

@Noelb71Noel @Mr_Riqz Imagine believing there were 40k there lol

This defence is hilarious cos it sounds cool if you were born in covid but explain all these empty seats in 2006, before you won the lottery when you played once a week 🤣 (some goal btw)

@Trequarrtist @bailey_wynne2 Personally think he’ll end up with some kind of middle ground, Pep doesn’t tolerate passengers off the ball. David Silva is a good comparison for expectations. Bernardo the gold standard.

@carthy_m @bailey_wynne2 Thatll never be his game unfortunately, he always slacked off off ball when he could🤣, unless pep can somehow make him like it

Has the Bernardo quality of 'I'm going to go for a dribble, and when I come back, you best not be pressing anymore'. Also hits a through ball in this game —De Bruyne —and only a few others in the world could—a unique combination of qualities.

Mad how similar everyones situation is

@MCFCDamo Rumours Guardiola is in charge of team selection until he quits too

Oh that's good, thought Hugo might just appoint one without talking to anyone else, cheers Sami

The game was 4-0 and Ljinders has done well to influence city into playing a high line 9 years before he worked for the club. Other than that Jamie could be right

@bailey_wynne2 What do you think of Oliver holt calling for him to get a lengthy ban because he as a moan about refs?

Speaks well of the situation here, more than reasonable.

@9320pod You don’t get this close to contract end and stay. I’ll be sad to see him go and I hope it’s to Benfica. He deserves a final day trophy win as a send off too

😰 He should stay another season.

@bailey_wynne2 Don’t remember this when Brewster signed for Shef Utd having never played a prem game

Cole Palmer made 3 PL starts before making his move to Chelsea.

@MCFCDamo In a way that brilliant run pre Xmas has unfairly adjusted everyone’s expectations too high after the majority of fans spent the summer saying it’s a transition season and we won’t be in a title race

@MCFCDamo There’s been a few properly pathetic head losses. Like you said there’s things we could have done better, rotated more in the season maybe. But the reality is we’ve gone from one of the oldest PL squads to one of the youngest in 6 months.

Want to address this because I have so much respect for FI's opinion. I have no problem with Pep criticism. I was massively critical after the Derby because it was a Cup Final team with new manager bounce that was going to be aggressive and we were naïve tactically. BG is diff