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The quintessence of human arrogance is to think that you can do something to cancel the work of God. The work of God is far greater than our failures and our successes.

@ReformedDoc He died for false teachers.

@ReformedDoc As a non Calvinist I can sincerely sit an listen to Calvinists/Reformed and learn allot. I actually recommend Packers book "Knowing God".

Non-Calvinist vs. Anti-Calvinist There is a difference between being a non-Calvinist and being an anti-Calvinist. A non-Calvinist disagrees with Calvinism. He may reject unconditional election, definite atonement, irresistible grace, or perseverance as Calvinists define them. He may argue strongly from Scripture and believe Calvinism mishandles certain texts. That is fair. Disagreement is not the problem. An anti-Calvinist is different. An anti-Calvinist does not merely disagree with Calvinism. He caricatures it. He says Calvinists worship another god, deny evangelism, make God evil, turn people into robots, or preach a false gospel. He usually argues against the ugliest version of Calvinism he can imagine instead of the actual position Calvinists hold. A non-Calvinist says, “I think your interpretation is wrong.” An anti-Calvinist says, “You worship a monster.” A non-Calvinist debates the text. An anti-Calvinist attacks the system with emotional accusations. A non-Calvinist may be wrong, but he can still be serious and fair. An anti-Calvinist usually has to misrepresent Calvinism in order to defeat it. If you want to reject Calvinism, reject the real thing. Deal with John 6, John 10, Romans 8, Romans 9, Ephesians 1, Ephesians 2, Acts 13:48, and the actual claims Calvinists make. Strong disagreement is welcome. Lazy misrepresentation is not.

@Truth_matters20 Grace is everything God is free to provide based on the saving work of Christ. The nuances , twist and turns, embedded in each of these are misguiding. Just enough truth to attract but just plan bad theology.

Who else is a believer in the Doctrines of Grace? 🙋‍♂️

Thats no reason to throw out the bath with the bath water. There is no understanding without direct contact with the Holy Spirit providing the knowledge needed at Gospel hearing. Man is spiritually dead and cannot understand without the Holy Spirits engagement. This is what its meant by illumination of the Gospel. It takes more than reading John 3:16 on a sign at a football game.

My departure from Calvinism began when I decided to examine the proof texts for Irresistible or Effectual Grace. I came to the conclusion that no passage directly taught it but I still accepted it because I believed it was a logical necessity even if it wasn't found in the Bible.

Yes, but the regeneration prior to faith and double predestination is unique but not all Calvinist hold to that. Man in depravity can come to God consciousness. Depraved men can be positive to wanting to know more. Depraved man can be convicted of sin, righteousness, and judgement without being regenerated. God will be faithful to send a witness and with Gospel hearing and the Holy Spirit will provide the epignosis of the Gospel for one to trust by non meritorious faith. The Holy Spirit will then make that faith effective for salvation and regenerate and impute eternal life.

The doctrine of Total Depravity is not unique to Calvinism. “The first use in order of the moral law, under a state of sin, is against man as a sinner, not only that it may accuse him of transgression and guilt, and may subject him to the wrath of God and condemnation; (Rom. 3:19, 20;) but that it may likewise convince him [impotentia] of his utter inability to resist sin and to subject himself to the law.” James Arminius, The Works of Arminius, trans. James Nichols and W. R. Bagnall, vol. 1 (Auburn; Buffalo: Derby, Miller and Orton, 1853), 533. “XVI. 3. These suasions are of themselves alone sufficient to produce an historical faith, but not that which is saving. To them, therefore, must be added the internal suasion of God by his Holy Spirit, which has its scope of operations, (1.) In the illumination of the mind, that we may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God; that we may know the things which are freely given to us of God, and that Jesus Christ is the wisdom and the power of God. (1 Cor. 3:7; Ephes. 1:17, 18; Rom. 12:2; 1 Cor. 2:12; 1:24; 12:3.)” James Arminius, The Works of Arminius, trans. James Nichols and W. R. Bagnall, vol. 1 (Auburn; Buffalo: Derby, Miller and Orton, 1853), 408. “VIII. 1. The mind of man, in this state, is dark, destitute of the saving knowledge of God, and, according to the Apostle, incapable of those things which belong to the Spirit of God. For “the animal man has no perception of the things of the Spirit of God;” (1 Cor. 2:14;) in which passage man is called “animal,” not from the animal body, but from anima, the soul itself, which is the most noble part of man, but which is so encompassed about with the clouds of ignorance, as to be distinguished by the epithets of “vain” and “foolish;” and men themselves, thus darkened in their minds, are denominated [amentes] “mad” or foolish, “fools,” and even “darkness” itself. (Rom. 1:21, 22; Ephes. 4:17, 18; Titus 3:3; Ephes. 5:8.) This is true, not only when, from the truth of the law which has in some measure been inscribed on the mind, it is preparing to form conclusions by the understanding; but likewise when, by simple apprehension, it would receive the truth of the gospel externally offered to it. For the human mind judges that to be “foolishness” which is the most excellent “wisdom” of God. (1 Cor. 1:18, 24.) On this account, what is here said must be understood not only of practical understanding and the judgment [singularis] of particular approbation, but also of theoretical understanding and the judgment of general estimation.” James Arminius, The Works of Arminius, trans. James Nichols and W. R. Bagnall, vol. 1 (Auburn; Buffalo: Derby, Miller and Orton, 1853), 526–527.

God knows what prayers you will say tor could have said and God has always known. And what is certain will come to pass. God isn’t calling audible’s although that’s what you may fell like He’s doing. God is perfect and His plan is perfect. He doesn’t scratch His head and say oh yeah that’s a better way I should have thought of that.

For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died; and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again. 2 Cor. 5:14-15 "He died for all" - cannot be confined to the elect "then all died" - shows the state of mankind who lay in death. Christ's death for all proof that it was all over for mankind, no hope of ameiloration of the flesh -- "Refers to the state Christ's death proved them to be in, a state of nature. To make it consequence of Christ's death is, I judge, an utter blunder" -- JND "those who live" - are believers who are exhorted then to live for Christ

Another day on X with folks pleading that God is not all knowing and he’s just like you an I learning as time goes as if He is not eternal and in fact is the creator of time and space.

Depraved yes. In need of revelation and Holy Spirit , yes. The "regeneration before faith" was invented because of the failure to understand that The Holy Spirit can supply epignosis Gospel at Gospel hearing. Sure we are elected, when you are in union with Christ we share in His election which is eternal. God did not elect non entities. L - no support for this whatsoever. Redefining words like all and world are the result of this. Irresistible, for those whom believe they probably would say it was irresistible. Yet the end of Rom. 1 clearly states that they had full knowledge and understood and resisted and rejected. Perseverance is more like roman catholicism sacraments. We are eternally secured at the moment we believe.

Every sin you will ever commit was borne by Christ as He hung on the cross. 2 Peter 2:1 reveals that Christ even died for false teachers. Fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame [of bearing sins]. (Heb. 12:2) And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. (1 John 2:2) We have fixed our hope on the living God [Jesus Christ], who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers. (1 Tim. 4:10)

Christ “died for all” is declared twice in verses 14 and 15 For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died [as a substitute] for all, therefore all died; and He died for all, that they who live should no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf. (2 Cor. 5:14–15)

How you feel going through the door is unimportant. What is important is that you go through the door. “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved” (Acts 16:31)

Mankind is born into an inescapable slavery and bondage to sin. We are helpless to redeem ourselves in this slave market of sin. We are separated from God and powerless to establish a relationship with Him. This is our inherited depravity. Adam’s original sin is imputed at birth, man inherits the nature to sin, and man commits personal sins. Three strikes. For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners. (Rom. 5:19) We are not born as children of God but born in slavery to sin! Take that to the bank. A slave has no rights or privileges and is helpless to free himself. “If therefore the Son shall make you free [a first class conditional clause—and He does], you shall be free indeed.” (John 8:36) Only a free man can purchase the freedom of someone in the slave market. The word “redeem” means “to buy or to purchase.” God redeemed, gaal, in Isaiah 44:22 “by payment of value assessed.” Two Greek words in the New Testament, lutroo and agorazo, correspond to the Hebrew words padah and gaal. Lutroo and its compounds emphasize the idea of purchase or ransom by paying a price (Mark 10:45; Titus 2:14). Agorazo and its compounds mean “to redeem or purchase a slave’s freedom.” The Lord and no one else can redeem mankind. The price paid to redeem sinners from the slave market of sin was the substitutionary death of Christ on the cross. God the Father imputed to God the Son “the iniquity [sins] of us all” (Isa. 53:6b). -rbt

We either adjust to God or He will adjust us. That is the relation.

Cool aerial of the pentagon on take off

Tell me what do those two cherubs represent looking down on the mercy seat covered in gold with sinful objects inside. One is righteousness and the other justice which is only satisfied with the blood. A holy God can not love you nor have a relationship with you without the saving work of Christ.

@daScrounger That is a very strange statement

Calvinist justification for their depravity. The cross is not about our depravity or God’s anger. It was about His love for us. The cross is always written in scripture as a sign of love. There is not a single verse about God’s wrath on Jesus. That is made up garbage.

Very cool place in Frederick Maryland. Visitation Hotel. An old cloistered monastery turned into hotel. Just one night.

I’m very suspicious of any organization that operates outside the local Church. This includes you “theological” youtubers.

What believers are "in Christ": - Chosen (Eph. 1:4) - Forgiven (Eph. 1:7) - Justified (Rom. 5:1) - New creations (2 Cor. 5:17) - Children of God (Gal. 3:26) - Free from condemnation (Rom. 8:1) - Sealed with the Spirit (Eph. 1:13) - Raised with Christ (Col. 3:1) - God’s workmanship (Eph. 2:10) - More than conquerors (Rom. 8:37) Christian, remember who you are.