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KJ Turner

@deuteroKJ

Husband to Raegan. Father of five. OT/Language Professor @TFC. MDiv/PhD @SBTS. Physics/Math @ASU.

. Katılım Şubat 2013
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@TruthSynod That’s a very broad question. I view it as God’s word, but think there are multiple viable literary-theological angles in how to understand it. Here’s my book on the beginning: The Manifold Beauty of Genesis One: A Multi-Layered Approach share.google/jQz0O6dpkjp1x0…
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Tsynod
Tsynod@TruthSynod·
@deuteroKJ How do you view Genesis? I'd like to hear from your perspective.
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Answers in Genesis
Answers in Genesis@AiG·
Can this popular Christian author and radio host be trusted. Ken Ham and Dr. Terry Mortenson respond to Dr. Eric Metaxas’ and Hugh Ross’ controversial statements about the biblical flood.
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@FredFredSanders @rhyneputman Maybe keep it going… Unitarianism conflates the 3 persons Social Trinitarianism overstates the THREE persons …
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Fred Sanders
Fred Sanders@FredFredSanders·
-The Apostles' Creed 𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙨 the 3 persons: I believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. -The Nicene Creed 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙣𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙨 the 3 persons: begotten, proceeding. -The Athanasius Creed 𝙘𝙤𝙧𝙧𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙨 possible errors about the 3 persons (one God, 3 persons).
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Megan Basham
Megan Basham@megbasham·
@erasmuse @WarrenColeSmith You don’t understand, Warren‘s purpose is to cover for orgs like Christianity today that take over $1 million from one of the nations of largest abortion funders. He works to ensure that people think that that’s no big deal.
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JARED FLEMING
JARED FLEMING@JaredFlemingAZ·
@AiG It’s hard to respect this organization and Ken Ham after this.
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Kristina Karamo
Kristina Karamo@KristinaKaramo·
Amen! You guys are absolutely correct. The church affirming that Genesis is literal history is foundational to the truth claims of the Christian faith. The cowardice and arrogance of so-called Christian “intellectuals” to undermine the literal interpretation of Genesis has fueled an exodus of many people from Christianity, because once we began challenging the foundation than other truth claims no longer make sense.
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Robert G. Callahan, II • Author
Robert G. Callahan, II • Author@RCallahanWaco·
Looking for recommendations of an honest but astute way to respond when asked, “How are you?” 1st idea: Them: “How are you?” Me: “You remember the first 15 minutes of Saving Private Ryan”? Ideas?
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@DennyBurk It’s what you highlighted. I read the review and found it wanting (and I generally love Schreiner’s work and realize this is not a full scholarly review/critique). I do think the meaning of “teach” in 1 Tim 2:12 is an important point.
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Denny Burk
Denny Burk@DennyBurk·
@deuteroKJ Well, that’s not the only thing the review says. The review engages biblical arguments and exegesis.
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Denny Burk
Denny Burk@DennyBurk·
“In From Genesis to Junia, Preston Sprinkle explains why he changed his mind, but he offers no new reasons for other Christians to change theirs.” @DrTomSchreiner [Link to Schreiner’s full review in thread below]
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@DennyBurk That goes both ways. Both sides claim to “teach what the Bible says.” No knock on wait you’re doing; perhaps you’re right. But, for many, there remains confusion and uncertainty on how to interpret all the data. So saying, “that guy said nothing new,” isn’t persuasive.
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Denny Burk
Denny Burk@DennyBurk·
What egalitarian argument have complementarians failed to answer? I don’t think there are any. We’ve already made our constructive case ad infinitum. If the egals come up with new arguments, we’ll answer them. But until then, we are just going to keep teaching what the Bible says about male and female image-bearers and the respective callings God puts on their lives. Our biblical arguments are today what they have always been, and the egals have yet to knock them down.
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@DrGladd @TGC What exactly was “important” about it? I didn’t find it moving the goal post one way or the other.
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Benjamin L. Gladd
Benjamin L. Gladd@DrGladd·
“The argument from creation has always been a linchpin for the complementarian interpretation, but Sprinkle finds it unpersuasive.” 🌳 -Tom Schreiner Read this important review of Sprinkle’s latest: thegospelcoalition.org/reviews/from-g…
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@DennyBurk Nor complementarian polemics, apparently. Make it difficult for those unsettled/unsure.
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Denny Burk
Denny Burk@DennyBurk·
Well, that’s pretty much Schreiner’s point. There aren’t any new arguments in this book. That’s exactly why there aren’t any new responses. I’ve been at this a long time. Schreiner has been at it even longer. There’s really not anything new under the sun when it comes to egalitarian polemics.
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@megbasham @danitreweek Take the L, Megan. Why attack Dani’s “emotional state” after she corroborated her point with research? Just petty…
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Megan Basham
Megan Basham@megbasham·
@danitreweek Oh you're free to. I'm just saying it seems to take some emotional toll on you based on previous reply, so feel free not to put yourself through that!
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Megan Basham
Megan Basham@megbasham·
David Brooks’s position in the nuclear family was an insidious, destructive position to take and I saw dozens of evangelical leaders lauding it when it came out. Same with Brooks promoting “gay marriage” back in 2003, long before it was legal. So yes, I think that makes his personal history with marriage relevant.
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@geoffchang He simply seems to be arguing for non-concordism here not YEC. The possibility of millions of years remains, just not in a day-age interpretation. He seems to see v.1 as a stage before vv.3f.
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Geoff Chang
Geoff Chang@geoffchang·
In the quote below, Spurgeon seems open to the possibility of "millions of years before Adam." It comes from 1855, very early in his ministry in London. Just two decades ago, Lyell had published Principles of Geology, which advanced a new theory of the old age of the earth, and Christians were just beginning to respond to it. By the end of Spurgeon's ministry, having seen the advance of Darwinism and the skepticism of rationalism, he was much less open to this theory and instead promoted the plain young earth reading of Genesis 1-2. Here's an excerpt from his last lecture to his students, "The Greatest Fight in the World" (April 1891).
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Gavin Ortlund@gavinortlund

Spurgeon on Gen. 1:2 (June 1855): "We do not know how remote the period of the creation of this globe may be—certainly many millions of years before Adam. Our planet has passed through various stages, and different creatures lived on it, all fashioned by God." Or in another sermon: "Thousands of years before, God was preparing chaotic matter to make it a fit abode for man, putting races of creatures upon it who might die and leave behind marks of His handiwork." What’s striking to me is how uncontroversial these remarks were at the time. Today, they’d possibly spark a firestorm—and that is my point. The Overton window has shifted.

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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@merelyjwright She signed my copy today. She’s doing great work for the kingdom.
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Jeff Wright
Jeff Wright@merelyjwright·
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Jeff Wright@merelyjwright

Truly disgusted by the Big & Striver Eva hatred of marriage so immediate second tweet. "Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer." 1 Tim 4:1-5

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Jeff Wright
Jeff Wright@merelyjwright·
1. She leaves out that marriage is God's appointed means of exercising self-control of one's sexual appetite. 2. Since she's encouraging young men to listen to Scripture she should remember what it says about women teaching men. 3. Do not let the perpetual Big Eva & Big Eva Thirsty Class abhorrance of marriage & children dissuade you one iota from pursuing it.
Danielle (Dani) Treweek@danitreweek

Young men. Listen to Scripture. If you desire to have sex then be self controlled (Titus 2:6) Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned…. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles. (1 Cor 7:27-28) You are free to marry should God give you the opportunity to serve him and a woman in that good covenantal relationship. Yet marriage is not your right, nor your need, nor does it exist to serve your corrupted sex drive.

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Danielle (Dani) Treweek
Danielle (Dani) Treweek@danitreweek·
So, in other news, who else will be at ETS? 🙋🏼‍♀️
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@danitreweek Some of us more quiet types need and enjoy your presence here. Keep it up; you speak for more than you know.
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Danielle (Dani) Treweek
Danielle (Dani) Treweek@danitreweek·
I’ve always been someone who has grown through good faith dialogue with others. Iron sharpens iron, and all that. And so I really appreciate the way this platform has a facilitated that for me. I’m also thankful for the people I’ve met on here, some of whom have become good friends. But I gotta say, the obstacles in the path of good faith dialogue seem to be looming ever larger. The cons are becoming more conn-ish. They include: - The constant barrage of nasty trolling from anon accounts - The way you get quickly typecast as the enemy by people who you are, in actual fact, very much theologically aligned with. And the way some of those people go after their “enemies”… - The way some innocuously intended posts become an unexpected politicised rallying point that then often inevitably reframes the intention or weight of the post into something other than what it was. You end up getting co-opted into someone else’s agenda. I’m still here because I so appreciate the opportunities this place gives me to sharpen, grow and learn. And because I think I’d really miss it if I wasn’t. But those cons… ugh, those cons.
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KJ Turner
KJ Turner@deuteroKJ·
@RandalRauser “Inclusive gospel” immediately stirs up universalism to my ears. But “one family” still doesn’t seem ideal. I don’t have an alternative yet. (I’m not affirming myself but I do think titles are important, as well is this topic, so I’ll keep thinking about this.)
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The Tentative Apologist
The Tentative Apologist@RandalRauser·
Help me title my next book! The subtitle is: "How to be Evangelical and Gay-Affirming". Can you please vote on the following possible titles or suggest an alternative in the replies?
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