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@ScotIrish12 @j26126 @CatahoulaCowboy @_BikiniBottoms @WWUTTcom @LizzieMarbach lol he blocked me too, but the last thing I would have to say is that taking the position that Luke-Acts is "robust" in the sense of historical accuracy is a naive position to take and is a detriment to proper faith formation

@dextroxin @j26126 @CatahoulaCowboy @_BikiniBottoms @WWUTTcom @LizzieMarbach That guy did this reply to me and auto blocked me so I couldn’t respond. They don’t get the simplicity that he doesn’t actually believe Acts is in error and it can in fact be harmonised but he was using the prot argument to its full conclusion

Roman Catholics: “The apocrypha is Scripture!” The Apocrypha: “In the twelfth year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar, who ruled over the Assyrians in the great city of Nineveh…” Nope. Not Scripture.

@j26126 @ScotIrish12 @CatahoulaCowboy @_BikiniBottoms @WWUTTcom @LizzieMarbach That you would even engage in that sort of debate is telling, when the historicity of scripture plays exactly zero role in faith formation.

@j26126 @ScotIrish12 @CatahoulaCowboy @_BikiniBottoms @WWUTTcom @LizzieMarbach You still do not understand that the issue is that you define "error" arbitrarily. And you even reveal that you think that there is some flavor of "error" in the scriptures which can be acceptable and not negatively impact legitimacy. But if that "error" bigger, nope, no thanks

@j26126 @CatahoulaCowboy @_BikiniBottoms @WWUTTcom @LizzieMarbach ... that He desires to be transmitted to His people. We are not called to understand, but only to believe. Debating the historicity of scripture is sophistry.

@j26126 @CatahoulaCowboy @_BikiniBottoms @WWUTTcom @LizzieMarbach You are terrified at the idea of "error" in scripture that you cannot explain. Historical accuracy is not now, nor has it ever been, a defining characteristic of God's Word. All that matters is that it is God's own thought, His perfect idea, from which all of creation sprang...

@SweetSavvySavio This past Mother's Day, after the homily, but before the profession of faith, the celebrant had all the mothers in attendance stand for a blessing. Everybody clapped after that, before continuing on with the Mass. Everywhere I go they have "no clapping" as part of announcements.

No one in any of the Masses I have been to has ever clapped during Mass. WTF are you talking about

@irumyuui1 Everyone is saying, "No, the Roman Canon changed very little since the Apostolic age!" But the point they are missing is that liturgy was in use in the Diocese of Rome, UNTIL after the Council of Trent, and it was mandated that it be used EVERYWHERE...

No Saint from the first millenium would see a Tridentine mass and know what was happening either.

@irumyuui1 @bkpark x.com/dextroxin/stat…

@bkpark This is a ridiculous reading of what I was saying. I said "would." I am not implying that they aren't currently, but that if you held a Tridentine mass, they probably wouldn't recognize everything that was happening since there was lots of liturgical variation.

@j_zhong1611 I do not know where your authority comes from... ... But I do know that a man ordained to the episcopate has inherited his authority through an unbroken line of apostolic succession going all the way back to Christ's handpicked, original twelve...

I’m qualified to teach people the Bible because I’m saved. While Catholic and Orthodox priests are not qualified since they’re not saved.

@ItsBigLasagna @Truth_matters20 No, but I am sort of laughing at the fact that your position on that matter, being informed entirely by a reliance on your own interpretive abilities, kind of serves to illustrate most of the point that I was trying to make, quite expertly.

@dextroxin @Truth_matters20 Do you also just laugh when you get to the part of the Bible that says call no man on Earth father?

More like "The Catholic Church is right about everything because the Catholic Church says they are right about everything."

@ItsBigLasagna @Truth_matters20 lol Never felt that a priest placed themselves "between" me and the one true living God; they only do me great honor by allowing me an opportunity to receive His grace through the sacraments, which are mysteries I cannot understand, but do believe they were called to administer.

@dextroxin @Truth_matters20 Well, people all over the world recognize that your church is actually a system of abuse. Because you refuse to believe that there is no man between you and God except Jesus Christ, you are foregoing actually knowing the love of God

@FancyABQ @Mrs_Foxtrot3 @findveritasx You don't need to invoke Him by name, whether in "testimony" or in prayer, to "profess" your faith. Doing good works is itself an expression of love, and that expression of love *is* a profession: "By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

@dextroxin @Mrs_Foxtrot3 @findveritasx This makes no sense at all.

Told my very anti Catholic family member I’m Catholic now. Had a fun impromptu debate until midnight, but that was last reason I hadn’t been public about my conversion. Now no reason not to be open about it to everyone now. A great feeling, but also a bit of a weight to know my life is going to be a very public testimony to the Catholic Church. That is, if I do stupid things, people will say “see he never was a real Christian” and if I am noticeably a better person, I hope it would be seen as a credit to the Church and the grace for sanctification God gives through the sacraments.

@YoungRock84 @findveritasx I have never in my life heard of anyone who was initiated into the Roman Catholic Church as an adult suddenly decide it "was not for them" and go back to a protestant bible study group LARPing as a church; only ever adults whose parents were unserious about their catechesis...

@findveritasx "The Church" isn't everything it has claimed to be. The important part is being able to see yourself as the blessed man from Romans 4:8

@FancyABQ @Kate20846560 @disciple96 @findveritasx And there it is! The tautology that simply cannot be argued with any further, because it has no logical basis and must be taken as fact on its face: if you are not saved then you can never have been a true believer, but if your belief is true, then you have always been saved.

@Kate20846560 @disciple96 @findveritasx I would venture to say that they were never a believer to start with. When you are a true believer, it changes your body, soul and spirit. If you stop believing, you never really believed to start with.

@FancyABQ @Mrs_Foxtrot3 @findveritasx What you call a "denial" might also simply be an accession to the Son of Man's exhortation to find a hidden room in your house and offer your prayers to the Father in secret, rather than being like a Pharisee praying loudly on the street corner so that all may hear and take note.

Not all Catholics profess their faith. Just as not all protestants profess their faith. But many Catholics believe that the good deeds they do will save them, even if they don’t profess their faith. That is not correct. The Bible says, if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my father in heaven.

@FancyABQ @findveritasx Yes, yes, no free will, etc... Or maybe there is "free will", just not this? But then why be free, if not to accept God's love?.. Y'all say, "sola scriptura" but the philosophy required to do the mental gymnastics to make it make sense could fill another book of equal size...

@findveritasx You might be a better person, just because the Catholic Church tells you you must do good deeds. That doesn’t mean you’re really saved. That just means your brainwashed. The Bible never says you have to do good deeds to get saved.

@findveritasx No need to get too anxious, though... I was reminded when attending a lecture one of our local priests was giving on the sacrament of Reconciliation that we are a faith of second chances (or third, or ..., etc.). What matters is trying; God knows what is written upon your heart.

@WWUTTcom ... because they have a valid episcopate. Whereas protestants are the result of a presbyterate that forgot their place...

Unless you’re Eastern Orthodox. Vatican II affirms they’re going to heaven. But if you’re Protestant, no go. According to the Council of Trent’s sixth session, Canon 9, if you believe you are saved by grace through faith and not by works, as Scripture says, you’re anathema.

@ItsBigLasagna @Truth_matters20 I'm saying that I would not know WHAT the scripture was without the Church. Jesus sent out his apostles to deliver his message, and the Church is where you can find the successors to those apostles, going back in an unbroken line to the original twelve. He didn't publish book.

@dextroxin @Truth_matters20 Exactly, so you're not even saying that scripture is good when you have the church. You're saying only the church is good

@ItsBigLasagna @Truth_matters20 I should clarify that I meant that scripture is NOTHING without the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church to direct us to it. I am not a prophet, so God does not reveal the Word to me directly, but through His Church. To rely on another source for the Word is to be in error.

@dextroxin @Truth_matters20 If I saw a church institution that didn't disregard large portions of the Bible, I would have been convinced. You pretend that scripture "alone" is the issue, but it turns out the issue is simply scripture