Michael Fromm

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Michael Fromm

Michael Fromm

@effi288

Head of Pretraining Data at the Soofi project | Finding the right needles in a petabyte Haystack. https://t.co/Pw8bNsj3nw

Munich, Germany Katılım Şubat 2017
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Michael Fromm
Michael Fromm@effi288·
📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
Overwhelmed by the response to Soofi S, 250k views and so much positive feedback. Turns out there's real demand for European AI optimism, happy to supply 😄 The paper is now on arXiv: arxiv.org/abs/2607.09424 The team is fired up, Soofi L is training. More soon 🚀
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Michael Fromm
Michael Fromm@effi288·
📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
@gudanglifehack Thanks for sharing our work. I answered some questions here already. x.com/effi288/status… Would be happy about a reshare :)
Michael Fromm@effi288

📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.

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Tips Excel@gudanglifehack·
2. Soofi S 30B-A3B: Open-source foundation model for German and English Researchers introduce Soofi S 30B-A3B, a sovereign, open-source Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) hybrid Mamba Transformer foundation model for German and English.
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Tips Excel@gudanglifehack·
AI Digest: StickyMoE for memory efficiency and Soofi S 30B-A3B 1. Researchers introduce StickyMoE for memory-efficient MoE model inference StickyMoE reduces expert switch rates by up to 60% during Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) model inference.
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
@SeraAndroid Thanks for sharing. I already answered a few questions on the project on my profile. x.com/effi288/status…
Michael Fromm@effi288

📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.

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Michael Fromm@effi288·
To be fully transparent about what happened: we never ran capability evals for Qwen3 32B (as you note, the base model was never released). The plot was initially built with temporary values while model selection was still in flux. When the final scores were loaded, Qwen had no entry and the script silently kept the old placeholder (38.4). It passed review because everything else looked correct. The throughput measurement for that point is real, but the capability value isn't, we've removed the capability point and uploaded the corrected figure.
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Jenia Jitsev 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🇮🇷
@effi288 Also unclear how initially Qwen 3 32B went in. Base model was never released. Measuring instruct model should have given much higher scores. Taking values from tech report that contains Qwen 3 32B base also should have given much higher scores. A mystery, it seems.
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Jenia Jitsev 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🇮🇷
The art of benchmarking: invent a score that nobody else uses to make your model appear "champion". SOOFI (largely reproduction of open Nemotron 3) evals the base models on "capability index" which lets Qwen 3 32B appear weaker than largerly meaningless models like Teuken. 🤣🙈
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
@defaiscope Thanks for sharing. Here im answering questions on the LLM :) x.com/effi288/status…
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📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.

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DeFAI Scope
DeFAI Scope@defaiscope·
Soofi S, a new German sovereign base model, is basically a repaint of Nemotron 3 Nano. Same architecture, most of the same hyperparameters, about 80% overlap in the data mixture. Trained from scratch anyway at 253,000 B200 hours, when continual pretraining on Nemotron’s checkpoint would likely get the same result for a fraction of that. Full training logs and data accounting are public, real pretraining experience for a European team.
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Michael Fromm
Michael Fromm@effi288·
@kabelsalat_info Danke fürs teilen. Hier beantworte ich einige Fragen dazu :) x.com/effi288/status…
Michael Fromm@effi288

📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.

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kabel-salat.info@kabelsalat_info·
Soofi S soll ein souveränes deutsches KI-Modell für lange Dokumente und Industrieanwendungen werden. Was Architektur, Offenheit und Standort bedeuten. Unsere Einordnung: kabel-salat.info/soofi-s-was-da…
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Michael Fromm
Michael Fromm@effi288·
@Underfox3 Thanks for sharing the article! More infos also on my profile: x.com/effi288/status…
Michael Fromm@effi288

📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.

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Underfox@Underfox3·
In this paper is presented Soofi S 30B-A3B, a sovereign, open-source Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) hybrid Mamba Transformer foundation model trained with 27 trillion tokens and primarily designed for German and English texts. arxiv.org/pdf/2607.09424
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
@marcel_butucea Thanks for sharing the article! More infos also on my profile: x.com/effi288/status…
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📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.

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Michael Fromm
Michael Fromm@effi288·
Für Soofi-S war es anfangs das größte Problem alle Datensätze rechtzeitig auf den GPU-Cluster zu bekommen. Wir hatten im Februar Zugang zum GPU-Cluster und das Training sollte Anfang März starten. Wir haben vorab auf einem Cluster der Technischen Universität Dresden die Daten preprocessed, der Transfer der Daten hat dann allerdings über zwei Wochen gedauert.
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André Ratzenberger@a_ratzenberger·
@effi288 Ja leck. Mit nur 20 Leuten. Und probably ein Budget das keine Fehler erlaubt. Hört sich nach vielen kurze Nächte an! Respekt! Was war aus technischer Sicht die größte Herausforderung?
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
@JJitsev Thanks for flagging! The Qwen3 32B dense capability score was a placeholder value from an older version that was missed during internal review. We've already updated it in the Hugging Face PDF. The rest of the numbers are unchanged, full eval harness is public.
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Jenia Jitsev 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🇮🇷
@effi288 Further, one should be worried about what ranking the invented "capability index" is conveying that assigns weak base models like Teuken-7B etc better score than strong Qwen 3 32B base. The ranking is obviously broken, which makes me also question any claims based on that.
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
Vielen Dank! Compute capacity in Europe for such trainings are a prerequisite, also scaling the team size by 10x. For comparison on other LLM projects there are often 500+ people on the tech report, we had a team of roughly ~20 engineers. The whole data team for example was just 3 persons. :)
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Bijan
Bijan@BijanRahnema·
@effi288 Herzlichen Glückwunsch 💪🔥 What would it take to catch up to state of the art frontier models? Is it raw compute, training data, something else entirely?
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
Fair question! Three things: (1) The model is the byproduct, the actual deliverable is a team + validated pipeline that can pretrain at scale on European infra. You can't buy that experience by fine-tuning someone else's checkpoint. (2) 'Outdated' is a bit harsh, it matches Nemotron 3 Nano, a current open baseline, on our first full run, with much stronger German. (3) Everything is open (report, logs, mixture details), so it's also a public data point on how mixture changes move evals. And yes, the independence part you mention is honestly a big chunk of the value. Next run (Super-equivalent, improved mixture) is already training.
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Lisan al Gaib
Lisan al Gaib@scaling01·
germans released a model that's actually not terrible it's small, and still worse than Qwen3.5, but it's very comparable to Nemotron 3 Nano but I guess that's what 27T pre-training tokens will do to a model
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📄 Releasing the Soofi S pretraining tech report: a sovereign, open foundation model for German and English Today we’re publishing the full pretraining tech report and project page for Soofi S 30B-A3B — a Mixture-of-Experts hybrid Mamba model trained on ~27 trillion tokens with deliberately up-weighted German. What’s in the report: 🏆 Strongest fully open model in our evaluations on BOTH the English and German aggregates — ahead of Olmo 3 32B and Apertus 70B (full methodology in the report) 📋 Radical transparency: complete per-source data accounting, all hyperparameters, training + eval code, checkpoints — everything under permissive licenses 🇩🇪 Trained end-to-end on Deutsche Telekom’s Industrial AI Cloud in Munich — sovereign AI infrastructure on German soil Soofi S combines frontier-level capability with the highest measured aggregate long-context decode TPS, and unlike full-attention dense baselines maintains high throughput as context grows. The figure plots Capability Index versus measured aggregate decode TPS/GPU at 40K context and batch 32. The Capability Index averages five benchmark groups, i.e., Code, GSM8K, GPQA-Diamond, English aggregate, and German aggregate, after normalizing each group to the best plotted model. Aggregate decode TPS/GPU is measured with a TP=1, one-B200 vLLM latency-subtraction protocol.

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3.14rock@314rock·
@effi288 Wow good european model from scratch under apache 2.0! Deutschland goes to frontier AI Congrats 👏🏼
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
@Dorialexander Exactly, in the end we want to master the full stack from data preprocessing → infra → pretraining → eval → posttraining
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Michael Fromm@effi288·
@yacineMTB Thank you! Herculean is about right; 5 months, ~20 researchers & engineers, and everything had to work on the first shot. More soon 🙌
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kache@yacineMTB·
@effi288 Great work, herculean
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