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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'

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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'
Until we recognize that all of this overt hateful bigotry and the conspiratorial thinking to prop it up are violations of our universal moral TABOOS, which can only be defeated with widespread social ostracism, as we did to defeat the KKK, we have no chance of surviving this.
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American Jewish Committee
We applaud @SenatorBanks, @SenTedCruz, and @SenTomCotton for speaking out forcefully against antisemitism on the right. At a time when antisemitism is rising across the U.S. and around the world, real leadership means calling it out wherever it appears - especially within one’s own ranks. We thank these senators for their moral clarity at the @NRO and @RJC Symposium on Antisemitism.
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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'
@noam_dworman The Overton window of the vocal, radicalized minority. Every brave rejection of their hate inspires other moderate normies to stand up to the illiberal bigots too, so I too am grateful. Still, I think @christopherrufo's point could be slightly refined: x.com/i/status/20357…
Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'@elevin11

@christopherrufo Even better: "I don't believe all Jews caused all of America's problems." Some Jews caused some of America's problems, just like some blacks, whites, Asians, men, women, gays, straights, Democrats, Republicans, etc etc etc

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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'
It's ok to personally not forgive people, but it's risky to introduce subjectivity in deciding who is beyond redemption or not. We can take a principled position here. Those who unequivocally denounce their previous hatred and make clear that they do not want support from those who still hold those positions are eligible for redemption. That doesn't mean that everyone forgives them, but it's ok if some people choose to. We shouldn't let their turnaround enable a new grift, but they shouldn't be gated out of polite society fully and forever. We even forgave members of the KKK who renounced their hateful bigoted ideology. This is how we can restore our TABOOS against hatred without succumbing to the excesses of cancel culture.
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James Lindsay, anti-Communist
James Lindsay, anti-Communist@ConceptualJames·
It looks like a lot of people are finally coming back from or dropping the Woke Right. That's great! We should welcome the people who couldn't see it before and can now. We have to stay discerning about the grifters and subversives who took us here, though! A quick message!
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Nunez@guycen·
@elevin11 @brad_polumbo Regular citizens do get held accountable! people were fired by private companies and orgs for comments! His own State Department created consequences for foreigners who celebrated Kirk's death. Who creates consequences when he celebrates Mueller's?
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Brad Polumbo 🇺🇸⚽️
Trump is so unpresidential and such an embarrassment to our country. God forbid, when someone dies, you say nothing at all if you have nothing nice to say—a concept we teach literal children. Meanwhile, many MAGA commentators who tried to cancel anyone who (grossly) made similar comments about Charlie Kirk will either completely ignore or defend this by Trump. Sad!
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Bosch Fawstin
Bosch Fawstin@TheBoschFawstin·
With savage Jew-haters swarming my posts, here’s a succinct example of how irrational and bloodthirsty they are: They celebrate the Holocaust, deny the Holocaust and threaten a new Holocaust.
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Chris
Chris@bzztwrong0·
@elevin11 @JonahPlatt Wouldn’t it be awful if hate for a group of people turned into violence?? Oh well time to support another bombing if an elementary school
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Jonah Platt
Jonah Platt@JonahPlatt·
Antisemtism on the right is a huge problem. Antizionism on the left is a huge problem. Anyone denying either belongs to one of those two groups.
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Nunez@guycen·
@elevin11 @brad_polumbo Yes, the President's behavior ought be comparable to random posters on the internet!
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Meir@iMeirK·
These is where the anti-Zionists ignore an inherent contradiction in their world view. They see the Israelis as Nazis and justify the most barbaric Palestinian behavior as a natural reaction to the oppression they face (e.g. "What do you expect from people in a concentration camp"). Ok. But they TOTALLY ignore the Israeli side to this equation. What do you expect from Israelis when they are subjected decades of terror attacks, with Oct 7 being the most recent and extreme example?
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Noam Dworman
Noam Dworman@noam_dworman·
My thoughts: The “Sabbath hole” line is vulgar and a giveaway. The impulse to say “they brought this on themselves” exists on both sides, and even to take pleasure in it. I’ve never admired it. But Greenwald can't be dismissed as some low-class grassroots Israeli. He stands, supposedly, in opposition to the very reactions that he's taking pleasure in. Two angry orgasms of ethnically tinged taunting don't make a right. And public intellectuals have to be held to the standard that they preach. After 10/7, everyday Israelis who did not have a say in where they were born felt many of the same emotions Greenwald feels today. Even many progressives did. Did Greenwald utter a word of understanding for those visceral Israeli outbursts when Israeli hostages were being tortured and murdered? I spent some time looking for similarly ugly tweets from people like Ben Shapiro or Mark Levin, and I was relieved not to find any. Am I missing them?
Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'@elevin11

@noam_dworman I respect you for holding space for thoughtful disagreements with people like @ggreenwald, but at some point we have to recognize that they are explicitly cheering on violence against innocent civilians, which is a violation of our universal moral TABOOS. I'm not advocating for "cancelling" them, but they need to be ostracized for expressing these vile beliefs, otherwise we are allowing their hatred to be normalized. This is not ok. Treating such hateful bigotry as a TABOO is how we defeated the KKK, and it's the same playbook we must follow today.

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Yaakov Katz
Yaakov Katz@yaakovkatz·
I have serious problems with the term “settler violence.” It is a generalization that demonizes a community of 500,000 people - almost all of them are good, law-abiding citizens. But we cannot let that defense blind us. What has been happening in the West Bank - like the attacks by Jewish extremists in some 20 locations last night - is an abomination. These actions are anti-Jewish, they are the antithesis of what it means to be Israeli, and they must be stopped with the most aggressive steps law enforcement has at its disposal. Beyond the moral rot, this is a strategic liability. Israel is in a war against Iran and we have a rare moment to unite a global coalition from the US to Europe to the Gulf, but that support is undermined when these attacks occur. @netanyahu knows this and for that reason he went to the IDF Central Command on Friday to try and stop the violence in the middle of a war that needs to be his sole focus. What these attackers are doing is not just criminal; it is a threat to our national security. We cannot defeat our enemies abroad while a violent fringe undermines our legitimacy from within.
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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'
@gracelover712 We need every decent person to draw this line and say they do not want any support from people who hold hateful bigoted views (toward any group, not just Jews). This hate is a TABOO and we must exorcise it from polite society, as we did to defeat the KKK.
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Kath
Kath@gracelover712·
If you are not Pro-Israel and in support of the Jewish people and we follow each other, please unfollow me. In fact, please block me. I’ve been trying to weed anti-Semites out, but as you can see, I have a lot of followers to go through. If I followed you, it was before I knew you. There’s no reason for us to follow each other. I want nothing to do with you and couldn’t care less what you think of me. Thanks.
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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'
@Fair_and_Biased Their anti-Americanism is their Achilles heel. Let's apply maximum pressure to it. x.com/i/status/20357…
Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'@elevin11

@AshleyRindsberg @CliffordDMay Spot on! Their anti-Americanism is their Achilles heel & the TABOO view of theirs (from Tucker to Mamdani) that we must expose for all to see in a way they can't ignore. Most Americans will not stand for people that want to destroy our country, or those who ally with them.

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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'
Yup, it's hypocrisy of the highest order, and this double-standard exposes a bigotry that cannot be explained in any other way. Sure, I have empathy for people that harbor hateful views, and even racial resentment, especially when they believe their hate is only directed at those that have harmed or have desire to harm. But when those views turn into words (in this case, taking joy in "Israeli cities being pummelled"), we must condemn them no matter what side they're coming from. This goes beyond vulgarity into the realm of overt hateful bigotry and the endorsement of violence against innocent people, which cross the red line of our universal moral TABOOS that we cannot permit in polite society. We must shame people who violate these taboos, and if they do not moderate their speech, they should be ostracized out of polite society. This is how we defeated the hate of the KKK, and if we do not restore these taboos today with social consequences, their hate becomes normalized and will spiral into violence and anarchy. FWIW, as I said, I love that you engage with and challenge these folks. I just think that at some point, they cross a line from partisan, tribal, biased critics to ones who not only excuse the overt hateful bigotry from their allies but actually cross the line to express that hate themselves. And this is the point we must hammer home. It is an indicator of their broken moral compass that should disqualify them from any serious policy consideration or political allyship until they are willing to draw that line, stop expressing those TABOO views, and stop associating with people who espouse them. I apply these principles evenly to pro Israel and pro Palestine voices, to Dems and GOP, and everyone in between. If we do not #MakeTaboosTabooAgain, we're all going to be in really big trouble.
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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'
Stop being idiots. Trump celebrating Mueller's death, while crass & awful, is not even in the same ballpark of wrongness as those who celebrated Charlie Kirk's MURDER. The latter is a violation of our universal moral TABOOS and must result in severe social consequences. The former is shameful, but does not disqualify somebody from having a role in polite society. You can make the comparison, but you must clearly distinguish why these are not even close to the same thing. We cannot flatten all these things into "the worst thing". Somebody saying they want to restrict illegal immigration is not the same as somebody who espouses explicit white nationalist views.
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Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'
Many people are comparing these things but not drawing a clear distinction, which is leading many others to pretend/assume they are the same. We cannot flatten these or we risk losing sight when people are truly violating our universal moral TABOOS, things we absolutely cannot permit to be expressed without severe social ostracism, vs. when people are just being jerks, no matter how much we hate it. There's a line for decorum, and there's a separate line for absolutely unacceptable speech/behavior that creates permission structures for open hateful bigotry and socially destructive behavior. We must separate these. Both of these things can be wrong and immoral, but one of them is infinitely worse. Failing to distinguish that is the same as for example calling everybody a bigot that has a different view on immigration policies than you.
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Brad Polumbo 🇺🇸⚽️
I feel like critical thinking is just lost on people these days. Comparing two things does not mean you are saying they are the same or of equal importance or moral worth. It just means there is a common theme between the two that you want to highlight. And, in this instance, there is: It’s wrong and immoral to celebrate the death of your political opponents. That was true when Charlie Kirk died and it is true for Robert Mueller’s passing as well—even though OF COURSE a political assassination is much worse and different than dying at an old age.
Erez 🇺🇸 #MakeTaboosTabooAgain 'Holding the Line'@elevin11

@brad_polumbo Do not conflate these two things! Trump should be condemned for this, but it is NOTHING like those who celebrated Kirk's MURDER!

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SporttyStuff🥊
SporttyStuff🥊@retardedusa·
It's beyond pathetic.... Trump: "Good, I'm glad [Mueller] is dead." Remember when Charlie Kirk died and conservatives purged anyone who didn't genuflect hard enough? Now the same crowd applauds, celebrating a man's death. Decency isn't partisan. It's either there or it isn't. #Trump #Mueller #CharlieKirk #DecencyMatters
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Ashley Rindsberg
Ashley Rindsberg@AshleyRindsberg·
Tucker is cracking. I spoke not long ago with an influential figure in US politics who told me that people in DC do indeed care about antisemitism, and that most of the serious people would be appalled to know that Carlson might be spreading it. The problem, I learned, is that the algos simply weren't serving up Tucker's anti-Israel and anti-Jewish clips to these individuals. In a way, the Iran war has forced Tucker's hand. His antisemitism—or, let's define it as his "extreme, obsessive, myopic focus on the faults of just one country which just happens to be the only Jewish state"—is now merging with a foreign policy position three states to the left of Mearshimer. Here, we have Tucker engaging with an individual who popped out of nowhere, bolstered by claims that he's some famous professor, to spew positions so nakedly pro-CCP they would make Edgar Snow blush to his kneecaps. Tucker isn't doing a journalistic interview in any normal sense. He doesn't push back or challenge this man's ideas or question his credibility. It's mere platforming. But Tucker has taken a wrong turn. Melding his Jewish-state monomania with his "Down with American" foreign policy contortion exposes both at the same time. In a way, he needed the former to pull off the latter—otherwise it would just be garden variety far-left protest ideology, the sort you find on the quad in UC Berkeley. The Israeli piece to this gave him a lever to say: "Our foreign policy is being hijacked by this evil state. It's not that America is bad, it's that America under Israel is bad." That audiences were asked to believe that a country with 10 million people somehow has leverage over the most powerful nation in history only made it more attractive in our conspiracy-theory-addled social media atmosphere. With these dark minor chords oozing in the background, it lent it a sense of inside information being hidden from view. Step this way folks, for the truth. It almost worked. But by espousing a directly anti-US position—the US should "share power" with its top enemies and adversaries—Tucker taken off the mask. We can now see this for what it is: anti-Israel monomania, anti-American foreign policy, built into a single conceptual complex—and delivered by a masterful performer.
Matt Morse@MattMorseTV

Chinese "professor" Jiang says that the United States should willingly forfeit it's role as the #1 global superpower to China and Russia, to which Tucker Carlson agrees and then blames Israel for preventing that from happening. Dude, what happened to Tucker?

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