
AI coding is here to stay, but it is far from obvious how to get the most value out (rather than tokenmax'ing lol). Ignoring them would be like ignoring git 15 years ago! Luca and I explored how AI tooling is "forcing" best practices in SW (good CI, fast testing, etc), discussed the challenges of getting teams to adapt (productively!) to new tools, how these tools are challenging OSS projects and proprietary SW moats, among many other topics. It was wonderful to spend time with Luca talking about the evolving nature of software design. He is thoughtful and does wonderful work at refactoring.fm, check it out!



















