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kabir@ethtwit·
spreads and depth already looking like this? rising
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Sam Schubert
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The key thing about @PhoenixTrade isn't whether fees are cheaper to trade. It's the engineering feat they're pulling off. Phoenix is a fully onchain orderbook DEX running on a general-purpose VM. That design lets it compose atomically with arbitrary smart contracts, which means DeFi can plug into it in a far more seamless way than @HyperliquidX's appchain + general VM sidecar model can. That composability is the whole point. Phoenix isn't just a venue, it's infrastructure the rest of Solana DeFi can build on directly. And that's exactly why it maps so cleanly onto the @solana thesis more broadly: one general-purpose chain where execution and composability live in the same place. On this BTC example, Phoenix already tracks Binance materially tighter than Drift, holding 76% of hourly observations within ±5 bps versus Drift's 57%, while also avoiding sharp dispersions that weighed on Drift's performance. Based on this analysis, Phoenix still carries a small positive basis, but the gap is much narrower and impressively close to app-specific venues like Hyperliquid and @pacifica_fi. That convergence is the signal to watch: if Phoenix's execution continues to tighten, it strengthens the case that Solana-native perps can approach the quality of more centralized or app-specific venues. And note that we are still early. This is before @anza_xyz's Alpenglow and MCP, and before @jito_sol's BAM perp plugins. I've always believed the chain that combines a general-purpose environment with application-specific execution quality will ultimately see runaway network effects. Phoenix is the player to watch on this thesis right now: if Solana can support high-quality native @perps, it becomes much easier to imagine the same architecture extending into other latency-sensitive markets, from prediction markets to more exotic onchain derivatives.
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Phoenix perps maker fees are 3x cheaper than Hyperliquid. @PhoenixTrade: 0.005% maker fee @HyperliquidX: 0.015% maker fee Lower maker costs should help attract tighter quoting, improve taker execution, and deepen liquidity over time. Note that @gmtrade_xyz and @JupiterExchange use pool-based models so you cannot compare them like for like.

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magic
magic@magicdhz·
great time to plugin
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sydney@sydnytrn·
me 🤝 phoenix perps
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JR | Multicoin Capital
JR | Multicoin Capital@johnrobertreed·
Love the momentum. Need to keep the foot on the gas.
kabir@ethtwit

in the last 5 days we: - announced and launched 24/7 $WTIOIL, $SILVER, $GOLD commodities markets with over 1m of orderbook depth day 1 - listed four new token markets in $JUP, $VVV, $MET, $PUMP - announced 2 new integrations with @Paystreamlabs and @GetRektApp - shipped Flight Codes, making us the single source of on-chain @solana perpetuals liquidity and composability the team is heads down building, we are talking to hundreds of traders every day and making product improvements daily based on their feedback. big week, big month, big year. rising.

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kabir
kabir@ethtwit·
in the last 5 days we: - announced and launched 24/7 $WTIOIL, $SILVER, $GOLD commodities markets with over 1m of orderbook depth day 1 - listed four new token markets in $JUP, $VVV, $MET, $PUMP - announced 2 new integrations with @Paystreamlabs and @GetRektApp - shipped Flight Codes, making us the single source of on-chain @solana perpetuals liquidity and composability the team is heads down building, we are talking to hundreds of traders every day and making product improvements daily based on their feedback. big week, big month, big year. rising.
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Usman S | Oro@UsmanSaleem·
@aadotsol would be cool to build out a gold yield vault (which runs a strategy on a gold basis trade with XAU perp & @orogoldapp spot
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Amrit
Amrit@aadotsol·
i am looking for someone to hand over my money to for: * funding rate arb tools integrating phoenix * pair trading app integrating phoenix * basis trade products integrating phoenix * prediction market trading app integrating phoenix (might build this myself over a weekend) the list goes on!
Phoenix@PhoenixTrade

Phoenix builder codes are live. Flight Codes let any trading app, terminal, bot, or agent route order flow to Phoenix and collect a fee on every trade.

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kabir
kabir@ethtwit·
spoke with a market maker yesterday that said out of the 40-50 integrations they’d done that @PhoenixTrade was the easiest to implement the network effects of being so simple to plug into are going to be clear very soon rising
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Maksim
Maksim@MaksimXBT·
@PhoenixTrade fees accrue as collateral doesn't specify what happens when they're paid out
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Phoenix
Phoenix@PhoenixTrade·
Phoenix builder codes are live. Flight Codes let any trading app, terminal, bot, or agent route order flow to Phoenix and collect a fee on every trade.
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Grant
Grant@Grantblocmates·
@ethtwit we should do a hackathon and document it
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