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@fire_reborn

Katılım Aralık 2018
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@Speaking4m @Armed_Alberta I did they still have no choice they have to do a constitutional amendment which they wont pass period, full stop
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Bruce Pardy@PardyBruce

There are (at least) three stages. One is the referendum. The second is negotiations. The third is actual independence. The day after a successful referendum, everything legally remains as it was. Alberta is still a province. The Canadian constitution still applies. But Albertans have "repudiated the existing constitutional order." The referendum result has given Alberta a mandate to negotiate its departure from Canada. During these negotiations, Alberta is still a province. The Canadian constitution continues to apply. Everything legally still remains the same. But because Alberta has repudiated the existing constitutional order, the Canadian constitution does not define the scope of the negotiations. The outcome of the negotiations need not conform to what the constitution requires. Everything is on the table. In these negotiations, there will be "no conclusions predetermined by law on any issue." ANY ISSUE. At the moment Alberta actually becomes independent (after the negotiations that lead to Alberta's consensual departure, or following a unilaterial declaration of independence if Canada refuses), the Canadian constitution no longer applies. Alberta will establish its own constitution, governance system, laws and so on. (It may need a transition period to shift from one to the other.) It will be free from Canadian constitutional requirements. After all, it is an independent country. In its new constitutional order, Alberta might choose to keep or adapt some things and discard others. But those will be choices, not requirements (depending also on the outcome of the negotiations).

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@Speaking4m @Armed_Alberta Lol just because you vote in favour doesn't mean you are immediately a country and the clarity act 💯 still applies
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WillowTree@Speaking4m·
@fire_reborn @Armed_Alberta What are u talking about? U better read it again. Constitutional scholars have explained the Clarity Act as far as the direction goes & the 1988 SCC ruling that applies..
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@CoryBMorgan It means nothing until elections Alberta counts them. They needed 7000 volunteers and more time then forever Canada. Forever Canada would have had closer to 700k with an extra month
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Cory Morgan@CoryBMorgan·
Mitch Sylvestre of StayFree Alberta just announced that the independence petition reached 301,450 signatures They needed 178,000
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@corymcsorry @Reil76 Not at all, I can dance around for days, so I am going to relagste you to background noise I will check every few hours lol
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🇨🇦Wayne🇨🇦
Leaking a voters list is the ultimate breach of privacy and trust. That information is protected for a reason, and using it to target or intimidate people crosses a clear line. Everyone involved should be investigated and, if found to be guilty, belongs in prison for a long period of fucking time!! Democracy only works when people can participate without fear of being exposed or targeted.
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@BertaProudDad Except these numbers mean fuck all because elections Alberta didn't count them. They can say a billion it doesn't mean they got it
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BertaProudDad@BertaProudDad·
They told us we wouldn’t get 178,000 signatures for Alberta independence! We smashed through that an accomplished 301,620 signatures! Now the work begins !
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@Tablesalt13 If this has been by the same rules forever Canada has to follow they wouldn't have hit their threshold... Weird how they were with two weeks talk about how they probably would not hit the threshold then all of a sudden doubled with not a single photo of anyone on lines
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Tablesalt 🇨🇦🇺🇸
‼️MAJOR BREAKING: Albertans have reportedly submitted 300,000 signatures (43 bankers boxes) of Albertans looking to trigger a referendum to leave Canada. ....SMASHING the 170,000 requirement set by Elections Alberta. This is going to happen. Buckle up Canada.
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@VIANFBH @Tablesalt13 And with way less time to do it as well. If for every Canada had the same time, they would have been closer to 600-700 thousand
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Dean0myte@DeanPelletier26·
@Tablesalt13 There are still a TON of hoops left to jump through. If it happens, you're still looking at many years from now.
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Walter McKort@WMckort·
@Tablesalt13 @JeffreyRWRath This is the largest petition in Canadian history per eligible signatory where proof of address and photo ID was required! (~10.2%) Bigger than the 1949 petition for Canadian Bill of Rights! (~7% of the eligible signatories)
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@Tablesalt13 Lol you mean none that can be taken at face value at all because they can count until blue in the facez they still won't be offical
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@Luizmd What I learned about the pandemic is that if it had been something like the Spanish flu half the world's population would be dead because of anti vaxxors
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Luiz M.D.@Luizmd·
What is the most important lesson you learned from the “covid” plandemic?
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@Luizmd That people like you are idiots
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@corymcsorry @Reil76 I wonder how long it will take before he realizes we are making fun of him and he's cheap entertainment
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Cory8675309@corymcsorry·
@fire_reborn @Reil76 Oh I’m fully aware that all my info is out there and someone could chase it down. This sounds like a threat tho. Are you threatening me? Under bill c-63 this would end you up in jail.
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@corymcsorry @Reil76 Aww princess are you trying to stay relevant, we are making fun of you since you are cheap entertainment
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Cory8675309@corymcsorry·
@fire_reborn @Reil76 🙄 I’m totally sure this wasn’t just a figment of your imagination. Bet that sounded better in your head.
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@Speaking4m @Armed_Alberta Lol are you actually trying to say fuck the clarity act of a vote is yes. Sorry princess that is not how it works. Your terrorists leadership APP doesn't talk about it because they want their followers to remain stupid and ignorant
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WillowTree@Speaking4m·
@fire_reborn @Armed_Alberta U've been misled.. When Alberta votes YES for Independence, its ALBERTA REPUDIATING Cda's constitutional orders/contracts.. Whatever Cda does w/ itself & rules will apply 2 Cda not 2 Alberta. Read Clarity Act & 1998 SCC ruling. Constitutional scholar 👇 x.com/PardyBruce/sta…
Bruce Pardy@PardyBruce

Essentially, yes. The text of the Constitution does not describe a process for a province to separate. However, the Supreme Court of Canada, in its 1998 reference case about Quebec, described how it could be done. If a province holds a referendum on a clear question supported by a clear majority, it will acquire a mandate to negotiate its departure. The Yes vote in the referendum, the Court said, would amount to a "clear repudiation" of the existing Canadian constitutional order. The province does not acquire a unilateral right to leave on its own terms, the Court said, but nor does the rest of the country have a unilateral right to stop it. The negotiations that follow are political negotiations that have no predetermined outcomes. In those negotiations, the Court said, there would be “no conclusions predetermined by law on any issue.” ANY ISSUE. People like to ask “What if” questions. What if the federal government refuses to negotiate? What if the negotiations do not produce agreement? What if the parties reach a deal but other provinces refuse constitutional amendments to put the deal into effect? We can make educated guesses about some of these, but the reality is that we would be in uncharted territory. We have not been down this road before. No constitutional document describes what happens next. The Supreme Court did not specifically address all the possible permutations. But it did acknowledge that a unilaterial declaration of independence was a possibility. (They emphasized that these are political negotiations that have no legally predetermined outcomes, so don’t come running back to us.) So, no one can be sure. Be skeptical of anyone who claims to know exactly how things will go.

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@Armed_Alberta @Speaking4m Yea they must happen but a constitutional amendment must take place, you get maybe 4 out of the 7 provinces you need. Read the clarity act a referendum vote for doesn't automatically mean you can leave. Also Ottawa can determine what is classified as a clear majority
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Armed Alberta, Firearm Rights
Negotiations MUST happen. And if the corrupt liberals say they aren’t going to negotiate then we have already obtained proof that the US would recognize Alberta as independent. - that’s the big one. Unilateral recognition is everything here. So if Ottawa says “nope” or evokes the emergencies act, we hand them the proof that there is international recognition and we say “bye bye, you had the chance” And that’s it. We’re out.
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Armed Alberta, Firearm Rights
Because the other group didn’t require ID to sign, you didn’t need to be in Alberta to sign it. and tens of thousands of names were void due to being false. They lied to the elderly in seniors homes saying “sign this if you want to keep your pension” “sign this if you don’t want to join the states” Pensions are safe, and we aren’t joining the US. Some of the names that were stricken off were Scooby Doo, Fred Flintstone, Yogi Bear. Any petition that would allow that is beyond fraudulent.
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@Armed_Alberta Lol this man is on pure crack. The constitutional amendment which must be voted on before allowed to leave will take more then 90 days and it won't pass
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