🔵💙WILD LEGACY❤🔴
WILD LEGACY broke her maiden under a great Clayton Gallagher ride today at Quirindi.
When they turned hit the straight, Clayton took the short way home along the fence and WILD LEGACY did the rest, grabbing the leaders after a sustained run
@Nic_Ashman The bookies are allowed to go offshore and fuck the punter (here is looking at you, Worldpool), but the punter is not. To quote legendary Australian band “Anyone will tell you it's a prisoner island”.
The best way to stop illegal offshore betting is to use resources to offer a competitive product within Australia
Not use resources to penalise those who bet offshore
Prevention not cure
Look at what’s happening in the tobacco industry
Meridius, ridden by an elite senior jockey, who struck the horse FOUR TIMES more than permitted, breaking the rules, beat Verdeaux, ridden by a 3kg claiming apprentice, who rode within the rules, by 0.06l. Yet the results stands. There is just no way that horse wins without cheating, no matter what we all think of the rules. Unless there is a penalty introduced per whip strike we will continue to have this blatant unfairness. Backers of Verdeaux were cheated yesterday. Simple as that. To have a situation where we don’t all agree that each whip strike prior to the 100m improved Meridius’s chances of winning by .015 of a length is laughable.
@111AKing111@PeterLawrence18 Think both work, but as the great man said. Think we can all agree current isn’t working and a solution needed. Trust your well and finding some winners.
@gorb54321@PeterLawrence18 Waller or any trainer tells jocks not to break whip rules, you think jocks that do will keep getting rides of said trainers?
Breaking whip rules will be thing of the past ffs.
Agree current isn’t working, always better to stop at source. In my example trainers will continue to instruct to break rules. Riders just won’t. In your solution trainers will instruct not to, riders still may as penalty if any (depending on margin) is borne by all connections not just themselves. Your solution also opens up a nightmare can of worms with In play betting etc which would also impact turnover negatively.
@gorb54321@PeterLawrence18 You don't get it. The moment trainers know that they can lose race because of rider whip use, they'll instruct rider not to break rules.
Do you think trainers are currently instructing riders not to break whip rules?
@111AKing111@PeterLawrence18 I’m talking about in all instances also. I doubt if you ran 3rd and jockey got hit with rider fee loss and 60k fine (3 over) any owner happy to stump that up.
@gorb54321@PeterLawrence18 They clearly haven't been prepared to go down that route.
Things do change.
Fining rider will do fk all.
Wins G1 race, connections will weigh in, but if trainer & owners lose G1 race, that'll have far more bearing on it.
Then trainers will say don't lose it due to whip
@111AKing111@PeterLawrence18 With the above implemented, in the rare instance that it came to that, stewards could be far more willing to uphold a protest. I doubt it ever would though.
Need to penalize rider who is the one breaking the rules. Very harsh on connections who haven’t. Still does encourage some breaking of rule if you feel can get more out of your horse than the amount of the penalty. Loss of rider fee/comm + a fine would completely eliminate any breaking of the rule. Riders love money too much.
Why not make the penalty really punitive? G1 race: $10k or even $20k per strike over the allowed limit. I still think the best course of action is increasing the penalty for the riders. If it’s punitive enough, they won’t do it.
Absolute nightmare when 1st past the post gets overturned, not to mention they are clearly not really prepared to go down this route.
Agree with Peter though: at the moment, too many examples of it just happening without recourse. No question—punters on the 2nd horse, which played by the rules, only feel one way: cheated.
@PeterLawrence18 X amount of margin penalty per whip strike is the only way to do it. Whether its 5cm, 10cm or whatever. It'll be 100% uniform every single time.
Appreciate your response 🙏. Hopefully one way or another it improves for racing's sake. TBH, bringing someone like you on board as a consultant would be invaluable—I doubt they even know where to start to fix the problem. 🤞🤞 Fingers crossed the powers that be have that foresight somehow. Thanks again and hope you're doing well.
Back-to-back abandonments at Bathurst isn’t just a venue issue, they point to a broader industry challenge.
When are we going to see consistent minimum standards, with clear accountability and transparency, across all tracks for the good of everyone involved? #TheGreatGame
Hey SK, I’m more across the US balance sheet and its size/composition. But is there room to move with the RBA doing more QT and fewer hikes? I understand QT hasn’t been that effective (and its effectiveness is probably debatable), but is there any wiggle room on this front? As I said, I’m not fully across it here.
My guess is that they were once given without 99% of punters knowing. I'm sure whoever agreed on the operator front was very well looked after personally. No one was the wiser. As transparency has gotten greater, these deals have come to light. Imagine they are slowly getting wound back.
@PlusEVAnalytics@MCruicky I have never understood why operators offer rebates. One only needs to think for 1 minute of the second order effects to realise they are awful.
How to extend the lifespan of the American horse racing industry:
1) Rebates that gradually shrink to zero as MTP->0. Would eliminate the last second odds changes that are, fairly or unfairly, eroding public trust.
2) Real time tote processing - Jesus F-ing Christ people, it's 2026. Do stock market prices update at 30sec intervals? It's a joke. Upgrade the damn technology.
3) Educate those who want to be educated. How does the parimutuel system work? Why do odds move? It's funny, people swear by public bet splits in sports betting where they're useless, but in horses it actually means something. If you bet a 12/1 that closes 9/1, it means that some of the smartest people in the world agree with your pick. Isn't that great?
I know the actual photo/image/technology is much better than what is being produced here.
I wouldn't have bothered posting this if this is the best they can do lol off this, outside has won for sure
@J_Walter23 Ill bet you what happens here, placings will be amended after Christmas with 2 as the sole winner. Hi Def freeze frame will be clear. What on earth are the stewards doing.. power of @AnthonyDon_ getting stewards now to over turn judges. What a time...
@kevin43202332@RNSWStewards 2 clearly won, freeze frame is well after the post. Stewards have over ruled the judge which I have never ever seen before.
@RNSWStewards The hilarious thing about this photo is how precise it is. It’s quite astounding that with it being so precise, the stewards initially called 2 up and 1 second. Almost as if it wasn’t as precise and clear for the stewards.
Full of shit.
It's incredible to overrule a judge when the outside has clearly won, just because the cameraman on track puts up a freeze frame that is 2m past the post and confuses everybody. RNSW is such a joke—it's unbelievable. They have this in high definition as well, which would show even more clearly that the outside won.
Sure, but if he actually has nothing to hide, they should borderline lose their license. So let's wait and see how this plays out. If he's clearly in the wrong, I agree, but the bottom line is this is rarely the lived experience. It's just a tactic to stall and make it hard to get your money—one that plenty of them use.