ħsam
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ħsam
@hbar_sam
Living in violation of the universe's ToS.
Katılım Mart 2026
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@TytheGreat4 @SaintHeartwing @shadihamid You are wrong. You can't confront reality because your entire worldview falls apart if you do. It's sad.
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@_samwhy @SaintHeartwing @shadihamid This is not what history or studies show. There may have been trivial numbers of Jewish converts but muslims in the area are mostly converted non-Jews and Arabian immigrants. Most Palestinians came in immigrant waves over the last few hundred years from Egypt, Syria, or Arabia
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Does Israel have a "right" to exist? No. But that doesn't mean it should be dissolved. I’m surprised pro-Israel advocates haven’t made this argument. But it requires conceding things most of them would rather not concede. My new essay for @wcrowdslive 🧵
wisdomofcrowds.live/p/does-israel-…
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@_samwhy @TytheGreat4 @shadihamid They’re Arab…Muslims. As in they weren’t always there, they were from Arabia. Your argument about genetics would be like claiming INCANS are the same as PERUVIANS or ITALIANS are the same as ROMANS or FRENCH are the same as GAULS. That ain’t how it works
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@SaintHeartwing @TytheGreat4 @shadihamid No the “Arab Muslims” (ie the Palestinians) did not conquer the land. They have always been there. The converted from Judaism to Christianity and Islam. You need to get off Twitter, look at genetic studies, and read some history.
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But it is. They were offered over half the land during the Peel Commission and they specially refused that too because it meant giving the Jews ANY state whatsoever. They insisted Palestine was an entirely Arab state and fuck the Jews. When asked “what about the 400,000 Jews who are currently living here, do they have a right to live here”, the response by the grand mufti of Palestine was “no”.
Also, how do you think the Arab Muslims got that land to begin with? They forcibly took it over.
So it’s fine when THEY take land by force and rule over it for centuries but the Jews can’t buy land or be given a bit of land small as New Jersey when there were already have a dozen Arab kingdoms?
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@Marc24743 @Maysaloon No, Israel made peace with the repressive leaders of these countries. It has not made peace with the *people* of Jordan or the people of Egypt. Both groups want a free Palestine.
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@_samwhy @Maysaloon Israel has a 50 year peace with Moslem neighbor Egypt and a 30 year peace with Moslem neighbor Jordan. They were also at peace with the Gazans until Oct. 7. Your genocide narrative is B.S.
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If you’re from the Middle East, it is tempting to watch the conflict and feel you have to choose one side or the other. But a third way is possible, rejecting both Iranian and Israeli hegemony and siding with people who want to live and raise their children in peace is possible.
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lol you are clearly living in an alternative universe. What people would be ok with giving up half of their land to foreigners seeking to displace them? Why should Palestinians and other people of the Middle East be ok with it? You need to really confront reality and ask yourself why Israel is the most hated country on Earth. (Hint: it’s not ‘anti-semitism’.)
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Israel came from
1. Jews already living there before Palestinians did
2. Jews buying up land from absentee land owners
3. Jews being promised a homeland in that region courtesy of the British partition plan
4. Jews being given land as part of UN Mandate
5. The Arabs in the region refusing to let the Jews have ANY state whatsoever, waging a war against them starting in 1947. Jamal Husseini told the UN Security Council on April 16, 1948 as much. "The representative of the Jewish Agency told us yesterday that they were not the attackers, that the Arabs had begun the fighting. We did not deny this. We told the whole world that we were going to fight."
They could have just...not. And let the Jews have a nation. In fact, the Peel Commission would have given the Arabs a clear majority of the land AND settlements and even the UN plan? Most of the land given was NEGEV DESERT, which was basically useless, so even under the UN plan, the Arabs would get a majority of settlements and actual, useful land. But they refused outright because it meant giving the Jews a state PERIOD, and they didn't want to do that.
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This is factually incorrect. Both Iraq and Lebanon are democracies, however flawed and fragile they may be.
Rabbi Poupko@RabbiPoupko
With Israel being the exception, democracy does not exist in the Middle East. The dishonest suggestion that if somehow there was a way to dismantle Israel that would be a morally right thing to do is the promotion of another Holocaust. Palestinians already ethnically cleansed all Jews from East Jerusalem and the Etzion Bloc in 1948. There are no Jews in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and all their surrounding countries. They only immoral suggestion promoting an idea that can lead to the murder of 7 million Jews is abhorrent, cynical, dishonest, and frankly murderous.
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@policytensor I don’t think it’s useful to compare modern Jew hatred (mostly associated arising as a consequence of Israel) to medieval anti-semitism. It just makes it sound like an ancient problem whereas in fact it is not. If it wasn’t for Israel, there would be very little Jew hatred today.
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I am seeing more and more open antisemitism. I’m afraid I was too sanguine on our recent spaces. It really does seem like the old ghosts may be returning in force because of the new Israeli policy of aggression.
LamedBet@LamedBet
@policytensor They are revealing just how different from the European mind they are, and that's important to note because Europeans have been winning wars for thousands of years, jews have been losing wars for thousands of years. Do not ever listen to what jews think wins a war.
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@eigenrobot lol the US can’t even hold on to its bases in Iraq and the gcc, what makes you think they can hold these islands?
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these do seem like the sorts of things one might do
who knows
wonder what we'd do with the islands if we seized them. transfer to GCC? turn into little gibralters? idk
Mintel World@mintelworld
Axios: Pentagon prepares for massive "final blow" of Iran war Military Options Prepared by the Pentagon for Iran: • Targeting Kharg Island, Iran's largest oil export hub, to completely cut off the country's economic revenue through invasion or blockade. • Seizing Larak Island to break Iranian control in the Strait of Hormuz, specifically targeting its strategic military bunkers, radars, and attack craft. • Taking control of Abu Musa and two neighboring small islands located at the western entrance of the strait, which are currently under Iranian control but also claimed by the UAE. • Stopping, blocking, or seizing ships exporting Iranian oil on the eastern side of the Strait of Hormuz. Trump hasn't made a decision yet on pursuing any of these scenarios.
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@_samwhy @shadihamid I don’t think that’s a majority opinion. Link?
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Wouldn't you be sympathetic to the argument though? I'm literally saying that we can't and shouldn't compel Israeli Jews to dissolve their own state. That would be unjust, even if the Israeli state was founded on a prior injustice. In other words, Israel would continue existing as a Jewish-majority state if that's in accordance with the will of Israeli voters, which it almost certainly will be for the foreseeable future.
Rabbi Poupko@RabbiPoupko
Ladies and gentlemen, a columnist with the Washington Post.
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Because the US and Europe like to paint themselves as pro-democracy and pro-human rights, and Israel needs their support. (Many Israelis would prefer to 'finish the job' and expel the remaining Palestinians).
It seems, however, the US and Europe can stomach even a genocide from Israel, so perhaps an expulsion is not too far in the future.
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@_samwhy @shadihamid Then why are there still Arabs in Israel and Palestinians in the West Bank?
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@TytheGreat4 @shadihamid This is literally what Israel did. Where do you think Israel came from? This is also what they are doing in the West Bank now.
Of course this is what happened all throughout history. If you are ok with it, then you should be ok with it happening to Israel too.
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@_samwhy @shadihamid That’s true though. That has happened countless times throughout history and none of those states are targeted for permanent undoing now. It is to Israel’s credit that they didn’t do that, and yet yall keep acting like they should be punished for it
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@shadihamid But there an obvious flaw with this reasoning: take over new territory, expel its original inhabitants, colonize it. Suddenly you can just say “oh the people who now live here will never vote to undo this new state”.
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There's no justifiable way to undo Israel short of a majority of its citizens freely voting in a referendum to fold Israel into a broader binational state that would include both Jews and Palestinians from the river to the sea. But Israeli Jews will never vote for that.
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@SunTzu6755 @RUSI_org @MBazilian @JaharaMatisek Pangram has a false positive rate of less than 1 in 10,000. My belief is based on these statistics, not because I blindly believe the AI.
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@_samwhy @RUSI_org @MBazilian @JaharaMatisek Your belief about that is based on AI, which is notoriously bad at detecting what's AI or not.
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'Our analysis shows that the coalition can continue fighting Iran, but with increased risk to forces in-theatre. The bigger risk, however, is what continued fighting against Iran does to deterrence and defence elsewhere.' write Macdonald Amoah, @MBazilian and @JaharaMatisek in the latest #RUSICommentary.
Read the Commentary: bit.ly/4rVW2sm
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@AvdullahYousef The Shia never had real power until after peak Abbasids, and nearly all permanent Islamization (at least through conquest) happened before then.
If you just consider the last 1000 years, Sunnis don't look too different.
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