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Vaguely Rational

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Interested in arguments, not arguing. Mostly looking at all things sex, gender, politics, identity and trying to work out what it means

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Ava Lovelace 🏳️‍⚧️
The Supreme Court has ruled that under UK law, trans people are secondary citizens and shouldn’t have access to services and amenities. You know they’re gonna do the same thing to gay people and cis women, right?
J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling

The Supreme Court has ruled that under UK law, trans people never had the rights people like you insisted they had. You misrepresented the law and cheered on the removal of women’s rights. Trans people have lost nothing except the mistaken belief you fostered.

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@allan_ronnie @ScotTories If those people came home with 200k worth of cars and 2 grand salt grinder as evidence of their crimes... then yes the wives should have known. These things arnt the same for the most obvious reasons
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Ronnie Allan
Ronnie Allan@allan_ronnie·
@ScotTories So you are saying Peter Sutcliffe and Harold Shipman wifes both knew what they were doing and every guy who was cheating on his wife, the wife knew about it? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇵
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Scottish Conservatives
Scottish Conservatives@ScotTories·
Serious questions for Nicola Sturgeon and what she knew about her husband’s illegal activities. Either she knew and was lying, or it’s another example of sheer SNP incompetence.
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@CraigMurrayOrg @tk881415 Isla bryson is a transwoman. He meets every condition for being a trasnwoman that exists - pretending otherwise is just embarrassing. Own it
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Craig Murray
Craig Murray@CraigMurrayOrg·
@tk881415 Isla Bryson is a male sexual offender pretending to be a trans woman. I hope that helps.
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Craig Murray@CraigMurrayOrg·
"Darling is that a brand new £81,000 Jaguar in our drive?" "Oh yes, I found it behind a milk carton in the garage".
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@HestiaHotspur @Jebadoo2 My wife would have my hide for spending a fiver on a new USB charger "becuase we already have one!". Might just go all in on the camper van next time....
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Melanie Scott
Melanie Scott@HestiaHotspur·
@Jebadoo2 The balls on these people! I noticed my husband had bought new shorts at Asda the other day, the spendthrift
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Alec Gunter 🇵🇸@PunishedAG·
Not a single person has given me a rational way to keep trans women out of women's restrooms short of a genital inspection.
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@PunishedAG People choosing to follow rules, maybe? Like how people stop at traffic lights....
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@blablafishcakes @jo_bartosch @DMScotPol Are they still running the line that she didn't know / didnt ask questions? All hell breaks loose in my house if my missues finds out I bought a new USB charger ("we already have some!!!") from Amazon.
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Tom Gordon
Tom Gordon@DMScotPol·
The vast list of luxury items bought by Murrell with other people's money is jawdropping. Like £200 Fortnum & Mason advent calendars and £2.6K Lalique salt and pepper grinders. But my fav so far is £160 for Folio Society edition of 'The Origins of Totalitarianism'. Handy.
Scottish Daily Mail@MailOnlineScot

Nicola Sturgeon's estranged husband Peter Murrell admits embezzling £400,310.65 in SNP funds and is remanded into custody mol.im/a/15846287 via @MailOnlineScot

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Owen Jones
Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
The risk of a trans woman being abused or assaulted in the men’s toilet per visit = extremely high. The risk of a woman being abused or assaulted in the women’s toilet per visit = extremely low.
J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling

Follow the logic. Women are deluded and naive for thinking predatory and violent men can be kept out of women-only spaces. ‘They can rape you anywhere.’ However, trans-identified men can only be safe in women-only spaces, because no abuser would ever follow them in there.

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If you are against self ID thats fine but many whole heartedly support it and believe TW ar who they say they are. In UK law ANYONE who claims a trans ID (irrespective of any hormones or transition) as protection under the gender reassignment (ie trans) legal protection. Actions of transition are completely irrelevant to this
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Tracy Edwards
Tracy Edwards@TracyEdwardsMBE·
@owenjonesjourno Every man I have spoken to about this says that is absolutely not the case. And anyway if it were, why do women have to be used as human shields???
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Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
If trans women use men’s toilets, they will be subjected to humiliation, abuse and violence. Anyone with any sense knows this. Which is why in practice trans women will not use men’s toilets, and will just increasingly be driven out of society.
BBC Breakfast@BBCBreakfast

Single-sex spaces - such as changing rooms and toilets - must be used on the basis of biological sex, new guidance from the equalities watchdog has confirmed. bbc.co.uk/news/articles/…

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@owenjonesjourno Why would TW be subject to abuse and violence in the mens loos? What specific features of that situation concern you? Have a REALLY good think about this beifre you answer....
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@grannies4equal Its really really simple and nothing (really) to do with trans. Keep males (however they idenify) out of female spaces. There is nothing more complex than this
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Grannies4Equality@grannies4equal·
There is no evidence that trans people as a group pose a threat to women and children. This is a dishonest argument to cover up an agenda of persecution & discrimination.
Trevor Phillips@TrevorPTweets

My thoughts on the @EHRC guidance laid yesterday; this is not about non-existent "rights". It is about the safety of women - mothers, sisters, wives, daughters. We men need to hear their voices. Virginia Woolf : "Though we see the same world, we see it through different eyes". My intro on @TimesRadio yesterday: Where I live there are two different routes to and from the tube station. One, let’s call it Acacia Avenue, is quiet and residential. The other, London Road, is a busy major route with lots of traffic. At all times of the day, I automatically head for Acacia Road. It’s just much nicer. The women in my family, on the other hand, will never willingly make that walk after dark. They live with an anxiety that most men find it hard to imagine, and frankly, rarely think about unprompted. Last year 739,000 women were sexually assaulted in Britain. Virtually all such assaults - nine out of ten - are perpetrated by men. One in four women have been attacked at some time in their lives. Acacia Avenue is exactly the sort of place in which most women fear that they become vulnerable, and they are right. As the author Virginia Woolf once wrote " Though we see the same world, we see it through different eyes". I think this is the right context in which to understand the furore over the guidance being laid today by the government, over the meaning of the words man and woman when it comes to providing services and facilities in workplaces. Many men think this is about a rather arcane dispute about who gets to use what loo. For their mothers, sisters, wives and daughters, it isn’t. In a previous life, as Chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, I had a hand in writing this country’s equality laws, in particular the 2010 Equality Act. It never occurred to any of us that there could be any confusion or dispute over the meaning of the words man and woman. But it has taken a decade of campaigning, a Supreme Court judgement and now hundreds of pages of guidance to settle the issue. This is not about so called trans rights, which are completely unaffected by this guidance, since no-one has ever had the right to walk into a changing room reserved for teenage girls. What it does mean is that women and girls are guaranteed the protection they deserve, and that their safety, which we spent half a decade drafting law to ensure, is protected. But the whole business illuminates some serious issues in our politics. First that many of our institutions, in spite of the fact that they always knew what the right thing to do was, decided to ignore the fears of their women customers and employees, under pressure from noisy pressure groups. Instead, the people who were supposed to be the grown ups behaved as though the law said what campaigners wanted it to say, rather than what it actually said. They settled for what they hoped would be a quiet life. In a democracy, there’s little point in Parliament deciding anything if the law is then made an ass by activists intimidating bosses in companies, schools, universities and the media into doing something different. Second, at the heart of the campaign to undermine the Equality Act is an idea that we specifically rejected in 2010, so called self-identification. That is to say, that it should be up to the individual to decide whether they have what’s called a protected characteristic - are you male or female, are you black or white. The problem is that self-ID would destroy the operation of any law against discrimination. Look, it would almost certainly have been to my advantage as a young man to self-identify as a handsome, white public schoolboy. None of those things is true of me. And at various points I am pretty sure it’s been to my disadvantage. It is certainly statistically likely to have been to my disadvantage. But according to the logic of those who say that self-ID should be the rule and that anyone should be able to decide for themselves whether they are male or female, black or white or Asian, were I to complain about racial discrimination, it would be difficult for anyone prove that I’d been discriminated against because of my race since anybody to whom I’d lost out could just tell the courts that they too were black. I know that sounds like Alice in Wonderland but you can google the case where a chap, both of whose parents are white, insisted he should get money from the Arts Council because he so identified with the black struggle that he considered himself black, and everyone should accept his point of view. In the United States and Brazil exactly such outlandish claims have been made and people rewarded to the disadvantage of people actually born into minority families. I have even been told about firms who, when reporting their gender pay gaps have put men who just happen to like wearing dresses at weekends - nothing wrong with that, let me be clear - into the female column and told their women employees that they really haven’t got anything to moan about because statistically they are paid equally, and they should get back in their box. So today’s guidance isn’t just another tiresome chapter in culture wars. It is , I hope, a halt to the efforts to undermine one of the most important pieces of legislation on the statute book, by people who, for their own reasons, would prefer us to be living in the 1950s world of Mad Men.

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