Melliferus

Some may say "Melliferus, why are you in the @GreenPartyUS? Aren't the Greens a spoiler/not worth it/a wasted vote? Can't you do better pushing one of the major parties leftward? I say no.

@LeftyWinter Then… leave the party? We have freedom of association in the US. Why not use it?

Being a socialist in the Democratic Party feels exhausting because it's not just the right we are up against. We are up against our own Party who's resisting change.

@People4AGrnMvmt @jacobin @DemSocialists @NewGreenHoriz

Just sent @Jacobin an article rebutting the @DemSocialists' strategy of running a Democrat in 2028, calling CaliDSA out for balking on the Left Unity Slate, what the American left should do instead. Here's hoping they publish it, but if they balk, we'll publish elsewhere!

@jacobin No lessons learned from Bernie 16 and 20 huh?

Beating Donald Trump isn’t enough, argue the Democratic Socialists of America’s cochairs. A united left-labor campaign in 2028 could mobilize millions, challenge Democratic Party failure, and put a working-class program on the national stage. jacobin.com/2026/05/left-l…

@CoolyCooliCoole @LeftyWinter These parties however (like wfp) don’t usually want a national party- they are usually focused on fusion states, and where they refuse to comply with the Dems, they get kicked off the ballot for it (see GPNY vs WFP in NY as one example) Parliamentary or PR would work better.

@melliferus @LeftyWinter I think there's actually a lot of room to expand the party system eg the Working Families Party, so go to it! I'd be in favor of a parliamentary system TBH. The WFP has been able to push Dems to the left to get their endorsement and/or have run their own candidates.

Most of the time I'm on here complaining about centrists but this crap annoys me the most about some factions on the leftist side of the political spectrum. We have a two party system. That's what we are working with. Until that changes, you got to work within the Democratic Party. No matter how annoyed or angry you get. We win some we lose some. Get involved in your primaries, run for office, get involved in your county, city, State Democratic Party. Join groups who ONLY organize for progressive candidates inside the Democratic Party (working families party, DSA, Progressive Democrats of America, resistance groups like indivisible, Swing Left, Move On, etc). Run for your Democratic precinct leadership positions. Support policy related groups lobbying for a specific issue you care about, example March for Our Lives (gun safety) , public citizen (accountable government) , unions, Healthcare-NOW (Medicare for all group), etc. I know how easy it is to want to give up on this Party. I did before but I came right back after I realized I made a mistake when I was younger.

@CoolyCooliCoole @LeftyWinter To be fair, I think both parties are essentially the same, hence I propose building something different (the Greens). I think some leftists view both parties as a mere ballot line- to which I ask, ok then please run on the Republican ballot line…. But they don’t. Only the Dems

@LeftyWinter I've always thought this type of argument was the left telling on themselves. If both parties are the same, truly, why not run in Republican primaries and debate Republicans? It's because they know the parties aren't the same, but refuse to acknowledge Dems aren't all bad.

I disagree on critical support of Mamdani (as I don’t believe democrats like him are worth supporting) but I like the ideas presented by this post.

@Kaimandante In some cases, this will require cooperation with capitalist legislators to achieve compromise, but it also means organizing outside of halls of power too. An independent political force gives you options to do that.

@Kaimandante Speaking as a socialist Green, Its about building an independent political force to leverage the capitalists in either political party. It's also about trying to increase worker power through our current system while acknowledging the end goal is worker control over the govt.

Can any DSA or Green Party ppl explain to me why they think their electoral strategy will work?

@xcollinm @SocDoneLeft I would argue DSA democrats are also still democrats. There is no mechanism of control independent of the democratic party. They are also reliant on overall democratic turnout to succeed. Finally, they are reliant on democratic networks too. It forces them to conform.

@melliferus @SocDoneLeft Probably because it doesn’t fundamentally change their nature of their candidacy and politics. Those are just Democrats. DSA Democrats aren’t. But yeah your point is still taken it is being framed as if they appeared differently on the ballot.

Leftists ran 380 candidates in 2024. How did we do? DSA: 119 runs, 81 wins, 4 TBD Vermont Progressives: 64 runs, 28 wins, 1 TBD Greens: 129 runs, 18 wins, 2 TBD Richmond Progressives: 7 runs, 3 wins the rest: 61 runs, 1 win All state & federal wins were DSA (49) or VPP (14).

@xcollinm @SocDoneLeft My point is Sierra Club doesn't act like they have "congress members" and pretend in wikipedia they are a political party when they are just democrats.

@melliferus @SocDoneLeft I’d imagine that Sierra Club and PPAction endorsed candidates do quite well

@brianmarkdane @DemSocialists (Yes)

@DemSocialists Are they running as democrats?

We’re 2 months into Trump’s onslaught against the working class, and Democrats are running defense for… Ronald Reagan. But we’re not powerless, there's another option. Learn about our newly endorsed socialist candidates, who are fighting the right for the working class below! ⬇️

@People4AGrnMvmt When their candidates (once again) tell people to support "establishment candidate" on working families party line, will they get it?

Watching NYC DSA fight Cuomo, fully aware they’re going to fail in both the short & long term

@Oliverr_t @DrJillStein Great - go vote for the blue half of the oligarchy then.

@DrJillStein “you can’t fight oligarchy in a party that’s bought and paid for by the oligarchy” no you can’t fight oligarchy in a party that has NO political power! Looking forward to your 2028 candidacy that gets a massive ~0.4%~ of the total vote

Can't fight the oligarchy in a party that's bought and paid for by the oligarchy. youtube.com/watch?v=BiXs6O…

@AZGreenParty @PhxDSA Perhaps they disagreed when you said "they do good work"?

We were asked by @PhxDSA to take down a retweet where we encouraged all who saw the tweet to join/support Phoenix DSA as well as register to vote with the Arizona Green Party. We apologize for engaging in solidarity.

@CatzConspiracy @8OutOf10Catz Who will be the stair master? My money’s on Catz!

@Nicorob12 @HengeDraws @FoxyMarxist As someone on the left side of the Green Party, i think we need more Marxists in our party. I think a lot of Greens could benefit from having that perspective in their state parties.

so like where were you apolitical cowards the past four years

@Red_Snow_36 @Sarah_pdx Pretending like the whole Biden Harris nonsense didn’t happen. Must be nice.

@Sarah_pdx DSA isn’t relevant, they are running things back like its 2016 again

are there *any* 2016 era political forces apart from DSA that remained relevant into the second Trump Term? Brand New Congress, Women’s March, March For For Lives, Sunrise, Indivisible all basically vanished.

@Sarah_pdx DSA is relevant?

@gyrewidener Looking forward to you reaching out to the Republican Party base then. After all, we've seen how so-called "reformism" works when its just focused on one capitalist party.

@GamerNate20 @Catina_suit Schrodingers third party- at once the most irrelevant weakest party that can’t impact anything, but at the same time the biggest threat possible!

@Catina_suit Have you considered that maybe the Dems should run better candidates if they're losing voters to third party candidates?

The Green Party basically exists for the sole purpose of siphoning votes off from Democrats, it's the reason they only really run in federal elections. Doing anything to keep Republicans from attaining power is extremely important especially with their authoritarian aspirations.