

Chinese labs now just 6 weeks behind US labs
Ntovas G
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Chinese labs now just 6 weeks behind US labs


Do not trust release benchmarks blindly; use evaluations from neutral parties or your own evals Very often, metrics being released with new models are not apples-to-apples comparisons. Examples from previous experiences: - Adding a default prompt for some benchmarks (e.,g. for MATH) while not for the others - Using different implementations (see huggingface.co/blog/open-llm-… why this is important) - Use a different k-shot setup, use CoT, different generation params, etc - Having a bug in their metrics implementation and silently updating the number days afterward without telling people - Use different parsers for extracting answers (e.g. for MATH) LLM evaluation is complex and is not uni-dimensional. That's why the work being done by @AiEleuther with LM harness (github.com/EleutherAI/lm-…), @clefourrier @nathanhabib1011 and @ailozovskaya with the LLM Leaderboard, @lmsysorg with the chatbot arena, and Stanford HELM are so important for scientific model evaluations and reproducibility.













Unfortunately no matter how judicious I am, no matter how much I review the code, it feels impossible to not let the slop slip in. I feel like you can prevent it from overflowing, but without your hands getting dirty, you don't really know the state of the project.







@VicVijayakumar @staysaasy But I can build this in a day



Gemma 4... intelligence for everyone on device!


