Nuhwin

@Ivory2131 @StickerPlantre @DollzHousee Maybe that works for the first segment of messages, but the second segment she's clearly talking about consent. "U don't touch me and do stuff without my PERMISSION". "did stuff without asking".

@StickerPlantre @DollzHousee this doesnt change that ren gave nv green lights to zeal, nor does it somehow retroactively change the flirting behavior beforehand. this just states that in the future she wants things to be more romantic which lines up with her wanting to date zeal

Watch how fucked Zeals gonna be when they drop that doc with more victims dude like its documented Zerum had to tell you to knock it off already

@DollzHousee Glad he hasn’t walked back on supporting Ren and his stance regarding the situation is still pretty reasonable. Still sucks to see this situation get to him so much

Gianni blaming himself for what he said im going to fucking cry dude

@macueen47795 @McRennex14151 Sexually touching / doing sexual things without the other party's permission is like textbook sexual assault.

@nuh_win @McRennex14151 oh my fucking god the king of misunderstanding is here wanting to change sex position isnt equal to RETRACTING YOUR CONSENT FROM SEX ANYTHING to put the blame on zeal

“You wouldn’t believe it, I slipped and a shawarma accidently ended up in my mouth along with some water AND i sneezed and took a bite out of it, which made me break my fast!”

@Swe5tNatyCake x.com/nuh_win/status…

@nuh_win Hiii I don't know if you'll see this, but do you know the origin of this photo and where you got it?

Did he intentionally crop the bottom part out?

@Swe5tNatyCake @McRennex14151 My screenshot was from Ren's doc, which has been removed due to reports, however this thread can vouch that this ss is real x.com/SovietXeno/sta…

@nuh_win @McRennex14151 Hi, could you tell me the source of this screenshot? I can't find it anywhere.

@Loppyhop Replies saying you're missing the point but you're not. This screenshot (which zeal crops) does not come from people having "consensual" sex.

As an autistic girl: OH MY GOD??? PLEASE DO NOT SPREAD THE NOTION AROUND THAT AUTSTIC PEOPLE CANT COMPREHEND CONSENT? this is such harmful misinformation! Yes you might struggle to pick up social cues, but that NEVER extends to BASIC. CONSENT. if you hear no, IT'S NO.

@macueen47795 @McRennex14151 “both of these are during the sex. ren just wanted more control of what happened in it.” You realize you’re describing sexual assault right?

@nuh_win @McRennex14151 both of these are during the sex. ren just wanted more control of what happened in it. the nonverbal part im assuming was during the sex not before, because if it was before then that contradicts what ren said and if it was during then the sex was consented to already

@derp_trap Ren's doc got taken down due to mass reports (lol) but the cropped version is on Zeal's doc still.

oh my god wow. where is this in the document? i need to see it

@Muphoo2 @McRennex14151 I saw that but I didn't consider it as him addressing it because he cropped out the bottom of the image and he's mostly talking about the kissing and not everything else. His argument can work with kissing but not "ripping everything off and doing stuff without asking".

@nuh_win @McRennex14151 - and there is no Undeniable proof from either side. We are not judges nor are we executioners.

@quick1105 @McRennex14151 So I'm guessing you're never going to address this then

@nuh_win @McRennex14151 Larping abuse

@quick1105 @McRennex14151 The same reason that people stick with abusive partners. Doesn't erase what they have been through.

@nuh_win @McRennex14151 Why did she choose to have sex again with him

@yuyuslivestream Seeing people say "cheating isn't a cancelable offense" is pretty weird. Something doesn't have to be illegal to be looked down on. This dude was hiding his gf from the world and having sex with other women for YEARS, I don't want to watch someone like that.

in my opinion cheating is a cardinal sin because why would you lie about your love and commitment to someone. betrayal is the worst and i’d rather die in some cases than find out i’ve been deceived by someone i truly love for some cheap sexual gratification l

@soggycooki24569 @Xxgold_dustxX @p1nkch4n lwk didn’t notice he wasn’t in here but he’s great #woops

@nuh_win @Xxgold_dustxX @p1nkch4n where’s the goat anubis

araki cooked so hard with n'doul before proceeding to make some of the lamest stand users ever

@lgyubt @SovietXeno @Kitsenura @HelloItsVG I found it twin, tysm🙏

@nuh_win @SovietXeno @Kitsenura @HelloItsVG actually i have no idea how pages work on google docs esp on mobile lmfao but it’s definitely in there!

Here is Zeal’s side of the story: Zeal just posted a video (1h33m) responding to Ren's document. This is extremely serious, he is in crisis. Reportedly in the hospital right now… >I watched the entire video and here is a summary of his side: He claims three key things were left out of Ren's document: 1. After he comforted Ren while she was crying in the hotel room, Ren asked to kiss him first. He interpreted this as mutual consent. This was not included in the document. 2. Ren claimed she looked up that lube was needed on her own. >Zeal says Ren actually told a friend about their encounter (against his wishes), and that friend suggested it. >He couldn't go buy it because he was already headed to a pre-scheduled meeting. >Ren confirmed this to him that night. 3. The message Ren says pushed her to attempt >Zeal says he found out Ren had told SIX people about their intimate encounter after he specifically asked her not to. >He got angry and stopped answering her calls. >He says Ren did not disclose what he actually said in the document. >He says this was his first ever romantic and s*xual experience. >He describes himself as awkward, embarrassed, and overwhelmed, not malicious. >He says he cut Ren off not to be cruel, but because she was hostile to his team members at RDC and had repeatedly broken his trust by sharing private details. >He says by the time he started writing a counter-document, every voice actor, teammate, and close friend had already left him, some telling him to k*ll himself. >He felt a written response was pointless because nobody would wait to read it. >He ran off after their first night because he was embarrassed he couldn’t perform well. >He avoided eye contact at RDC out of embarrassment, not malice. >He cut Ren off because she was cruel to his teammates and tried to use alcohol to s*xually coerce one of them. >He individually names and apologizes to dozens of team members, programmers, modelers, voice actors, musicians, writers, and artists. >He also mentions owing multiple people payments he won’t be around to fulfill. >He repeatedly says he’s terrified, doesn’t want to d*e, had big plans for the game, but sees no path forward. >No job experience outside Roblox, everyone gone, no point defending himself. >He tells Ren it’s not her fault and begs her not to feel guilty. > He says September 4th was the best day of his life and he still loves her. >He is currently reported to be in the hospital. Please do not harass anyone involved. >Ending life is never a good solution… please continue to help both of them with this situation But this might be the darkest moment in the history of Roblox….

@SovietXeno @Kitsenura @HelloItsVG Do you know what page this is at in the doc? or section? I can't find it anywhere and this is pretty damning

@Kitsenura @HelloItsVG Yeah idk about a misunderstanding when this is in the doc. He doesn’t even really address it in the video either.

@Xxgold_dustxX @p1nkch4n honest thoughts

@nuh_win @p1nkch4n honestly the only ones i really liked were the darby bros and ndoul, and mostly just the gambler bro

@UltrakillTakes If you want genuine advice the sawblade launcher is goated on this level, its pretty good normally but there's so many fodder enemies that the sawblade can one shot quick.

"I have 200 hours in the game and I still can’t prank 8-3 on standard"

@Stellaissus @p1nkch4n Priestess and Strength episodes

@nuh_win @p1nkch4n The bar was in hell