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@nulltrace
he/him. ☭ Converts coffee into code and papers. Hopes to instead convert code and papers into social change.
edi sa puso mo Katılım Ocak 2012
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@devsysape @mcuban They should be forced because all the value is created by the workers anyway.
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Dumbest tweet I've ever seen from Mark Cuban. Private companies are under no obligation to give their employees ANY form of ownership or profit sharing, not should they. Mark - did you become a communist? "should be required" ... really?!
Now should owners be generous to their employees? Of course! But that is a far cry from forcing owners to share ownership with their employees. Insanity.
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A strong argument could and should be made that every employer should be required to offer all employees stock in the same manner the CEO receives annual stock awards or options, warrants ,etc
Whatever percentage of salary/earnings the CEO gets in shares, so should every employee
Ferbin@Ferbin08
@mcuban @elonmusk 150m own stocks. 1% own 90% of the gains. Ownership scaled. Wealth didn't.
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@impetuinfinito @yeathatonesonme @favelaoverlord So the wright brothers wouldn't have a plane without a society of workers, you're saying.
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@yeathatonesonme @nulltrace @favelaoverlord lumberjacks were not any more of a limiting factor in the creation of the plane than the bacon the wright brothers had each morning, and you're being disingenuous by fixating on them
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Amazon is a fantastic litmus test because it’s the single clearest example in existence of a capitalist doing an incredible and immense service to humanity and leftists still invent bunk reasons to hate it.
ً@omgsidewalks
No billionaire actually built a billion dollar company through hard work. Apple’s cofounder said the garage story is a myth. Bezos got a $300k investment from his parents. Google’s founders were Stanford grads with access to venture capital. Stop promoting the bootstrap ideology.
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@CalMEurofan It's still a genocide even if it has a .05% death rate YoY because their final objective is extermination and occupation.
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This is my favorite argument.
In Hiroshima, roughly 140k people died due to the nuclear bomb out of 350k. That’s 40% of the city.
In Nagasaki, 80k people died out of 263k. That’s 30% of the city.
In Gaza, 73k people have died (according to GHM) out of 2.3 million. That’s about 3% of the population. A substantial percentage of that are terrorists.
So Israel has dropped an amount of bombs on Gaza that exceeds the power of the nuclear bombs we dropped on Japan and yet the death toll is far lower both proportionally and on a raw numbers basis.
How is that possible if Israel is committing genocide? Maybe it’s because they’re not.
Muhammad Mazen@mhmd_s09
One of the most brutal scenes in human history has been leaked. The amount of explosives that Israel dropped on the Gaza Strip exceeded the power of the two atomic bombs that the United States dropped on Japan at the end of World War II. A video that the world must never forget.
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@Anarcho_Econ @panicsoreo @Dave28677798858 @DavidLewis6689 @Blue_Owl_X Lmao nevermind I just saw you put the word "right" in your post. But that's what rights are. They require enforcement.
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@Anarcho_Econ @panicsoreo @Dave28677798858 @DavidLewis6689 @Blue_Owl_X Nope, ownership is the recognition from society that you can exclude people from something.
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@Blue_Owl_X @panicsoreo @Anarcho_Econ @Dave28677798858 @DavidLewis6689 By not assuming ownership and instead determining it.
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@panicsoreo @Anarcho_Econ @Dave28677798858 @DavidLewis6689 @nulltrace how do you solve conflicts without assuming ownership?
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@gov_fails Can you name an instrument that guarantees checks for life?
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You can create an account on the Social Security website and see how much you and your employer(s) have paid in SS taxes in your lifetime.
I'll warn you... it may make you sick to see how much you contributed when you realize how much better off you'd likely be if you had just been able to invest those "contributions" yourself.
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@CyberdyneC @StephieSmallls You can run a spoon around the inside and get all the skin off quickly.
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@StephieSmallls do people really sit around and skin a kiwi with a blade? it's not like an orange or banana where you can just peel it off easy
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girls in my sorority would eat kiwis with the skin on to shit their brains out and look skinny for pool parties
Rob Pizzola@robpizzola
Years ago a guy told me he eats kiwi with the skin on because the skin is loaded with nutrients. I thought he was out of his mind. Tried it once and never went back. Skin on kiwi is the move and I will not be taking questions.
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@ElijahForCA No, socialism is when co-op is the only allowed corporation type.
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@nulltrace If that’s socialism than Anarcho-Capitalists and Libertarians are socialist
Bro hasn’t heard of Karl Hess
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The Liberal options:
1. Work for me
2. Work for someone else
3. Buy your own capital and start a business
4. Start or join a Co-Op
5. Fleet into the woods and live there
The Socialist options:
1. Be a slave for some state industry
2. Die
Bédéaine@sm0ldigg3n1ck
The consent in question :
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@MisterEReports @CodyLibolt "the capitalist's property" you mean previously appropriated labor?
You know machinery and facilities are built by workers, right?
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@nulltrace @CodyLibolt Wrong.
The worker is exploiting the capitalists property.
Which increases the worker's productivity by orders of magnitude.
So that the worker can earn higher wages than they otherwise would.
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@kevin4292 @Gzalzi @Anarcho_Econ Yeah they come from workers which is the point. We don't need capitalism to have a productive and thriving society because capitalists produce nothing and workers produce everything.
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@nulltrace @Gzalzi @Anarcho_Econ Basic needs don't come from thin air. Someone has to produce them. Guaranteeing those things for free means enslaving the producers of those things. The best thing to do is remove all artificial barriers that make it harder to acquire basic needs (ie. zoning laws for shelter).
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@MisterEReports @CodyLibolt Workers are not extracting money from employers because workers are the ones who make the money and then are only paid back a fraction of what they made.
It's the capitalist that is doing the extracting.
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@nulltrace @CodyLibolt "I want to extract as much money from you as I can, risk-free."
"I am compelled to hire people, because I can't realize my vision alone."
It works both ways, jerk.
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@kevin4292 @Gzalzi @Anarcho_Econ Ensuring food and shelter and basic needs for everyone will achieve this. Imagine the ventures that can be had if everyone had the opportunity to start businesses without homelessness or starvation as a possible outcome.
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@nulltrace @Gzalzi @Anarcho_Econ Well, the system in the US is decent, but it could be better. Remove all IP laws, remove certificate of need stuff for hospitals, cut down on ridiculous zoning laws, etc. Basically remove anything that artificially makes it harder to start your own enterprise.
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@UnmitigatedAss The exploitation of workers is not a natural reality we need to keep around forever.
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Yeah they would.
They're not socialists due to economics.
They are socialists because they hate reality, are resentful, and want revenge.
CRasch.Net@craschnet
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@Anarcho_Econ *if you're a member of the in-crowd protected by fascism
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Mfs just be saying shit. I’m not an America number one type of person but it’s unobjectionably one of the most free places on earth
Don’t Boo…Revolt!@BreeNewsome
“USA is moving toward fascism” USA is LEADING the world with fascism & genocide, what are y’all on 😭
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@kevin4292 @Gzalzi @Anarcho_Econ Why is it not the fault of the system? Isn't it a good thing for everyone if we change the system so it becomes easier for everyone to find what you have?
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@Gzalzi @nulltrace @Anarcho_Econ I have a job because I truly enjoy what I do. I work with my friends to provide something that other people want. It feels good to get paid for doing something you love. If y'all can't do the same, then that's not the fault of the system.
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@raudelmil @Gzalzi @Anarcho_Econ Hey if you do work in the business, then you should be fairly compensated for the value you contribute and that doesn't matter whether you're the 1st, 10th, or 1000th employee.
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@Gzalzi @nulltrace @Anarcho_Econ I don't know who you are talking about, but there's many examples where the people running things are making essential contributions. When the organization achieves something which no one else has accomplished, this is particularly obvious.
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@Dave28677798858 @panicsoreo @DavidLewis6689 @Blue_Owl_X @Anarcho_Econ It's not impossible lol. It's just normal ass accounting and business record keeping lol. We already have co-ops today that operate no problem. I just want every worker to forcibly convert every corporation into a co-op nationwide because thats what the revolution will look like.
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@nulltrace @panicsoreo @DavidLewis6689 @Blue_Owl_X @Anarcho_Econ This is a circular argument that is also wrong. “Rightfully belongs to the one who created it,” would be impossible to actually discern who did that. For example, would I own a Cafe that I’m the only employee of and directly serve coffee to customers? (1/4)
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