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@CoffindafferFBI Great episode and finally someone put it all together. Thank you !

Nancy Guthrie-We have to talk about this! x.com/i/broadcasts/1…

@WarpedWingLabs @TrueCrimeBelieb If somebody would have seen him on the 11th or 31st he would have been on the news as “masked man seen at Savannah Guthries child hood home where her mother still resides. “ but nobody was watching. And I believe he KNEW right then he wouldn’t be disturbed.

Great point, and excellent example. Porch guy had all night if he needed it. From what we know publicly, he was there for almost an hour, at least. I believe the porch footage is from around 2:12am, not 1:47 as some assume. If true, that means he was doing something for 25 minutes that was NOT entering the home and extracting Nancy.

IMO: Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance was a murder for hire staged to look like a kidnapping for ransom.

@WarpedWingLabs @TrueCrimeBelieb Something else that’s bugged the bejeezus out of me is either A&T never put Nancy’s cams on their phones or they never checked them and had no alarms on. The nest cam still sends alerts to your phone without a subscription. I googled its features with/without active sub.

@JesseBWatters Man people are gullible

🚨WOAH! RESEARCHERS SAY DOZENS OF CRASHED UFOS HAVE BEEN RECOVERED — WITH FOUR DIFFERENT ALIEN SPECIES ON BOARD 🛸👽 TWO ARMS, TWO LEGS… LONG TAILS LIKE A LIZARD! 7 FEET TALL! 👾 SOURCES ARE TOO SCARED TO TALK… SAYING AN INTERVIEW COULD “FORFEIT THEIR LIFE” 😳💀

@GermanDaphne @857Tucson I’d build a 10’ wall and paint it green or brown. Desert colors.

Nancy Guthrie house has chains across the drive way now #NancyGuthrieMissing

@WarpedWingLabs @TrueCrimeBelieb Wow those are smaller than I thought, I always wondered if he thought he had more room between the wall and the camera but when he got there he realized “well shit that ain’t gonna work” and just needed to get a grip on it. What you said earlier about the Lancanta makes sense .

I have to admit I walked around Home Depot looking for the pocket object. I don’t think it’s a jammer (they don’t look like that), and WT’s are surprisingly small these days. I even took a photo to compare it to my hand! I agree, it looks more like a tool handle or one of those telescoping magnets. To think he came without tools seems unlikely. And that makes the lantana draping seem even sillier. Just pry that camera off; it’s not hard to do.

@WarpedWingLabs @TrueCrimeBelieb There is something I have also wondered about, What if that’s NOT a jammer or 2way? Have you ever seen the rubber handled grips on pliers or wire cutters? The pocket depth looks shallow. Look at Walmart tools section on line.

It really is too weird, and completely unnecessary. I think that's why so many people think there are multiple perpetrators. They can't reconcile porch guy's odd behavior with the seeming spotlessness of the rest of the crime. But I think it was just one guy, playing dumb. Since I think everything he did on the porch was for show and meant to be seen, I don't put much stock in any one action, hand movement, or glance. I think he was intentionally trying to look like he was organically bumbling his way through dismantling the camera. If he didn't think the camera was working, why is he covering his face most of the time and not blinking while facing it? If he knew the camera was, in fact, working, why would he show his face at all? He didn't have to (unless he wanted to). If he used a WiFi jammer, then he's savvier than he appears. So, why would he allow the camera to reconnect and upload the footage before destroying it? He avoided getting caught on the yard cams despite opening doors and breaking floodlights, so he knew they were there and how to avoid them. There's no way he wasn't aware of the #1 place for security cams: the front door.

@TrueCrimeBelieb This world is insane

The Islamic Center at San Diego had children in Pre K up to 3rd grade. 😭 #activeshooter #massshooting

@WarpedWingLabs @TrueCrimeBelieb Exactly, he was calm and he did move with speed. He even looked down in the gravel at the side of the entrance the nest cam was on like he thought something was there, he was really looking in the gravel. Whatever he thought was there was moved I think, it was weird.

I think everything he wore and everything he did was planned out to be seen on that porch doorbell camera. It was his stage and his performance. What gave it away to me is the speed at which he grabbed the plant tendrils. It seems unnaturally fast to me. That would never have been my first action in such a situation. In the dark - and in the desert - I'd expect a lot of the flora to have spikes and thorns. That would be a big risk for someone wearing latex or nitrile gloves.

@TrueCrimeBelieb If you don’t breath in mouse or rat poop you will be fine. Crazy thing is how the media acts like this is “new” lol gene hackmans wife died from it. Just pay attention to where you stay. It’s everywhere nice and rats are.

I need to know if this is getting serious or not before I get on an airplane next week ugh #Hantavirus

@CoffindafferFBI Maybe these guys should count their blessings this is a family that has class. I can think of at least a dozen ways that could have ended badly.

Nancy Guthrie The upside of streamers: *They put a continued spotlight on Nancy's case The downside is the intrusion on neighbor privacy. I also find it in bad taste to imitate Porch Guy like we are talking about the fictional Freddy Kruger. This case is not a movie, it is life. Nancy is gone and likely dead. Does the upside outweigh the downside? Without the streamers, would the case go cold in the media? What do you think? #NancyGuthrie #NancyGuthriekidnapping

@WarpedWingLabs @TrueCrimeBelieb Oh and the Interview room last night had an old profiler on from back in the day. He noticed that also which made me feel better. I never knew if anyone ever noticed it. Everything the dude wore was “perfect” on him.

@TrueCrimeBelieb Ah. Maybe I was confusing. I didn’t mean actor in the theatrical sense. Just a participant in the crime. I wonder how many murder for hire cases aren’t about money or love? It boggles the mind what happened to Nancy.

@WarpedWingLabs @TrueCrimeBelieb Hmm good question, you have love or money and that leaves revenge. That guy on the porch bugs me, I asked this on a zillion different pages and never got an answer lol did you notice his clothes? His “costume” that guy is so put together he probably irons his socks and BVDs.

Is it possible someone in Nancy Guthrie’s family is involved in her disappearance? Yes, but it’s also possible that they aren’t. We have to stop bullying and harassing victims families just because they are family members. Because at the end of the day, if they are not involved, you’re only causing more harm to people that are already suffering. We need to have more empathy for people.

@TrueCrimeBelieb There have been countless family’s destroyed by accusations that turned out to be wrong. It’s hard to remember some people are so far removed from this and have never experienced this pain &they accuse. Some are young &foolish & some just see this as a money making opp.

@GeeRollTide @TrueCrimeBelieb Support? I support myself. Spare me your bullshit because I was raised by a diagnosed psychopathic mother and a homicide detective father who was never home. I chose to be a sheep dog instead of a wolf or a sheep.your streamers are wolves.which one are you?

@oldsheepdog64 @TrueCrimeBelieb Nothing is being done to any of us meanwhile you sound bitter awww you want what those streamers have don’t you ? Support

@Sassafrass_84 I’m of the opinion anybody under 30 shouldn’t be allowed to vote. They aren’t smart enough to make decisions yet.

What a horrible thing to say. I love older people. You really are a nasty one. This is what an infiltrator looks like, folks. Dont alienate our older generation. They deserve our love and respect.

@FoxNews Terrifying? Maybe if you were the one flying one of em.

Terrifying video shows two U.S. Navy EA-18G Growler jets collide midair during the second day of the Gunfighter Skies Air Show at Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho on Sunday. All four crew members successfully ejected and are being evaluated by medical personnel, the U.S. Navy confirmed to FOX News Digital. The midair crash happened at about 12:10 p.m. MDT while the aircraft were performing an aerial demonstration during the air show, officials said.

@WarpedWingLabs @TrueCrimeBelieb That’s what I’ve been saying, either the porch guy did it all or someone diabolical sent him. Machiavellian type. Porch guy is a psychopath and that’s what has people befuddled. Psychos aren’t THAT prepared. Machi’s are. This guy is re writing the dark triad. IMO

Well, if you ask… ;) No, I don’t think the ransom was a serious attempt to get money, only terrorize. Moving money out of the bitcoin account is too risky, too traceable. The suspect would happily let $6M sit in the wallet forever, untouchable. The FBI knew this and likely dissuaded the Guthries from paying it. I think porch guy, the ransomer, and “the rat” informer are all the same guy, just different characters with a singular goal. I believe we were meant to see the porch video, and that he assumed Nancy had a Nest account. I think he’s wearing a mask under the ski mask, and unworried about being recognized. The FBI isn’t pushing his image hard in the media now because they know this. The radius from the ransom notes - the time to return Nancy - includes Mexico. Less than two hours after Harvey Levin reported that fact on air, the second ransom note was received, as if he was waiting for that “discovery” to be publicized. Feb. 10 was huge, with the porch video released, a POI detained, and a test deposit sent to the bitcoin account. That evening, “the rat” sent a message, offering to turn in the suspects for pocket change. The next day, another rat note arrived, stating the suspects are in Mexico with Nancy. Neither porch guy, the ransomer, or “the rat” have been caught, because they’re the same guy. I believe he’s trying to drive LE toward Mexico, and public sentiment against immigrants. His show on the porch and messages directly to the media (TMZ!) were meant to scare the public into thinking foreign agents are here to steal their mothers and grandmothers from their beds. This all happened at the height of the ICE protests, don’t forget. The crime was too well thought out and executed to be some low-level cartel goon. They’d have been caught by now. I think the perp has experience, and it may be on the other side of the law, and the crime was designed to terrorize. For hire? Maybe; maybe not. Real kidnapping is too crazy and risky for common criminals. And if Nancy had obvious enemies who would want to take the extraordinary step of killing her (think Michael McKee with the Tepes), the case would’ve been solved by now. Sorry for the tome. Taking a long subway ride. lol