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@donalfellows @Grady_Booch We're not in disagreement. "No proof until actual proof" is exactly my point. This very topic is on the edge separating science and philosophy, and I'm pointing out that Mr Booch's standpoint is philosophical, not scientific. Can't be scientific (a purely logical conclusion).

@omothm @Grady_Booch Having worked in brain simulation, I suspect that @Grady_Booch is correct that sentience is both physical and computable. We won't be able to prove it until we achieve it, but there doesn't appear to be any insurmountable problems there; just very difficult to do.

The brain is a dynamic complex physical system. Every effectively realizable physical system is computable (the Church-Turing thesis). Ergo, the brain is computable. QED

@donalfellows @Grady_Booch You could approximate anything (incl. brains!)—that's different. What Mr Booch "believes" (he's referencing a thesis) is that the brain is reducible into a computational model based off of its "physical" nature. But sentience isn't (proven to be) physical, thus the premise fails.

@omothm @Grady_Booch We haven't "solved" turbulence yet either, yet nobody sane claims that requires it to be uncomputable.

@Grady_Booch You start with "Sentience is a consequence of physics" and then immediately follow with "I see no evidence that requires..." to refute the opposite. But there's no evidence as well for the first sentence. You could argue either way all you want. Truth stays as clear as day.

I am one of those whose research points to the conclusion that the mind is computable. Sentience is an exquisite consequence of the laws of physics. I see no evidence that requires the supernatural; I find panpsychism to be a god-of-the-gaps fantasy; I see no requirement for any quantum pixie dust. What I do see is that evolution has led the cosmos through billions of years of experiments and mistakes and failures, eventually bringing forth artifacts with intelligence, with consciousness, with sentience, with life itself, by growing and combining very simple things then morphing them into extraordinarily complex ones. An underlying challenge in all this discourse, of course, is that these words represent ineffable concepts that human language strains at and fails to define crisply, and so we end up talking past one another, with emotion rather than rational and informed dialog. That notwithstanding, it is the ultimate hubris to conclude that only we humans can be conscious or sentient: a multitude of creatures living among us possess those properties to varying degrees (and we already treat multitudes of them with questionable ethical consideration). It is hubris to demand that the intelligence and consciousness and sentience we experience is its only form. It is hubris for we humans to assert that at this moment are at the cusp of building sentient artifacts. My understanding and experience suggests that while some individual elements are within our understanding, there are many others we do not know that we even know we need to know. Moreover, there exists a problem of systems architecture at extreme scale, and that we are a long way from understanding how to engineer that. But I predict that some day we shall. This is not that day, nor is it a day in the lives of any of this present generation. I expect that embodiment will be necessary (all contemporary approaches are deeply impoverished with regard to building things in and of this world, with sensing and acting now only a tiny fraction of what organics experience in all its noise and ambiguity). I posit that in this journey, we will co-evolve, compelled to reconsider what it means to be human. I know that we will find value from the things we create, but I also know that there exist fundamental and unavoidable risks that will harm us. I fear most the wealthy and privileged few who assert they alone know the way and should be trusted to bring humanity to this new digital promised land; I fear the organizations and nations who seek to use these things for greater power and control. I suspect that some strive to build artificial super intelligence (because they want to be gods) while others reject the possibility (because they cherish our uniqueness). And yet, I am hopeful, and confident in the resilience of the human sprit to endure, and in the end, be better for the journey. What an extraordinary time to be alive.

@amrwaked @Za3faroon1 @FadelSoliman إسقاط نفسى كوميدى جدا

@Za3faroon1 @FadelSoliman وده شيء يهم حضرتك في ايه؟ هل هتروح تتحاسب بدالي؟ ايه مشكلتك فيما اعتقد؟ هل انت بهذا الضعف؟ هل تشك في عقيدتك بهذا القدر؟ ما تسيب الناس تعبر براحتها عن فكرهم. طالما ده مش فكرك انت، يبقى متضايق ليه؟

معلومة: عثمان بن علي بن ابي طالب سمي عثمان تيمناً بالصحابي بعثمان بن مظعون رضي الله عنه وليس تيمناً بعثمان بن عفان، وقال الإمام علي عليه السلام ورضي الله عنه وأرضاه "إنما سمّيته باسم أخي عثمان بن مظعون" (المصدر: مقاتل الطالبين للأصفهاني، وتاريخ دمشق لابن عساكر).

@ryanflorence @FurkanGozukara Ryan, I do believe you are blessed. And I do believe the right next step for you is to pick up a Qur'an. May God show us all His true path and bless you and your loved ones. quran.com/5?startingVers…

@FurkanGozukara Church only gets 7B/yr in tithing with 350B in assets. Clearly it doesn't need our money Nobody demands it. We do it willingly, to prove the Lord: Malachi 3:10 I have paid millions in tithing and can testify the Lord has poured out blessings I didn't have room to receive

Absolute insanity. An expert filmmaker exposes how the Mormon Church is hoarding a staggering 350 billion dollars and buying up massive amounts of American land while still demanding money from its followers. The religious corporate greed is terrifying.

Ülkede garip bir kitle var. Oruçtan bahsettiğiniz anda, beyinlerinde otomatik bir "Whataboutism" motoru çalışmaya başlıyor. Birden kul hakkından, rüşvetten, taciz olaylarından falan bahsetmeye başlıyorlar. Mesela çocukları sahura kaldırmanın güzelliğinden bahsediyorum. Hemen birisi, “Haram parayı cebine indir, sonra çocukları sahura kaldır! Oh, ne güzel!” diyor. Zekât vermenin faziletinden bahsedin, hemen konuyu rüşvet vermeye bağlıyorlar. “Ramazan ayında dışarıda yemek içmek ayıp oluyor, biraz saygılı olmak lazım” yazıyorum. “Önce milletin hakkına saygılı olup kaçak kat çıkmayacaksın” diyorlar. Ya arkadaş! Ben Ramazan ayına hürmetten bahsediyorum. Sen niye konuyu imar affına getiriyorsun? Sahurda yetim hakkı yediğimi, iftarı kul hakkıyla açtığımı nereden çıkardın? Hem bunlar birbiriyle takas edilen mevzular değil ki! Mesela diş sağlığından bahseden birisine, “Trafikte şerit ihlali yapan kişi, dişini fırçalasa ne olur?” diyebilir misin? Diyebilirsin elbette ama saçma olur. Deme yani! Hem hayırdır? Bu öfke ne!

@thdxr Tests are not the most important artifact of TDD. It's the influence on architecture. Not saying that only TDD can produce good architecture, but it's one of the best ways to.

i never liked TDD, it felt better to me to work through an implementation but now i can ask an LLM to look at my code and then derive a bunch of tests then i can look over the tests to see if it understood my intent right and fill in gaps i finally have decent test coverage

@37signals Roll your own CDN, folks :)

We're having widespread trouble on all of our apps. We're looking into a fix now. So sorry about this.

@evanyou Nooooo I'm not giving up my pun that easily

One pet peeve I've had for a long time: The E in "Evan" is pronounced like the E in "Everything". It's not "Even". Sorry for ruining all your "Evan You can do it" puns.

@jasonfried Absolutely. Since that moment I've tried everything Asian. Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Thai. Never thought there's so much to like (and a few things to dislike). Similary, I came to like Tailwind after _having_ to use it. Now trying to "relike" vanilla CSS after seeing Fizzy :)

@omothm And aren't you glad?

Allowing your tastes to widen is one of the true pleasures in life. All the sudden there's more to like, more to discover, and less to reflexively recoil against. "Oh that's cool TOO" is a deeply satisfying thing to say, feel, and experience.

One of my favorite lessons I’ve learnt from working with smart people: Action produces information. If you’re unsure of what to do, just do anything, even if it’s the wrong thing. This will give you information about what you should actually be doing. Sounds simple on the surface - the hard part is making it part of your every day working process.

@thdxr I didn't bother checking Gemini 3. I'll use the latest version of whatever model fits my task and only revert to an older version during new version hiccups. Versions are becoming meaningless by the day, no big leaps. All I care is Gemini thinks better, Claude codes better, etc.

i know the model labs are in fierce competition and feel like they need to respond to every move by their competitors but people are getting really tired, they're totally checked out at what codex 5 vs codex 5.1 vs codex 5.1 max xhigh is increasingly narrow audience that cares

@thdxr @wesbos As long as everything is driven by paychecks, it'll only get worse. The best experience happens when profit is a secondary concern and focus is strictly on users. Basecamp is a prime example of this. Steve's Apple, too.

@wesbos it's not just tech and i swear it's not just old guy yells at cloud everywhere you look having a shitty experience is the norm even outside of tech everything looks ugly, works poorly, unreliable idk what's going on

What the HECK is going on with tech? In the last week: Multiple cloud outages, x DMs totally broken, antigravity doesn't work, my watch is showing me 15 year old cal events, mac OS is a mess, email is spammed to hell and every nerd on here is talking like new AI is the second coming

You may also want to follow that by reading a whole chapter in one setting: quran.com/41

@ryanflorence And this is an excellent moment to take your belief in God, who sent Jesus your way to lead you to Him, into its most complete form by answering to Jesus' brother, successor, and last true Prophet: quran.com/61/6

One day I realized the fact that we exist at all is enough rationale to believe in God The whole universe exploding from nothing is just as bizarre as being the child of a sky wizard who loves me The wild part is confirmation of God's love follows the belief and strengthens me

@FadelSoliman @9tttty صبيحة ابنة أتاترك بالتبنى وليست زوجته

@9tttty هذا غير صبيحة اسم صبيحة هانم زوجة أتاتورك و الذي سمي على اسمها مطار صبيحة و أيضا صالحة

متداول : شخص يتحدى الجميع ان يأتون بأسم بنت صحيح يبدأ بحرف ال "الصاد" غير صفيه وصفاء ، مقابل مبلغ مادي كبير !

@thdxr The Entity at work

i came up with a snapshot system for opencode for doing granular rollbacks i later found code in gemini cli that has the identical approach at first this felt like validation of the idea - but now im wondering if LLMs guided us both to the same place

@ryanflorence Should I brace for it shipping soon in RR? 🥹