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SAM D’ORAZIO

@phantasmosis

artist, illustrator, immortal

Providence, RI Katılım Şubat 2012
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MY FAVORITE ARTIST WAS A ROBOT (1/3)
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@ctdonath @NaughtalieStone @SHL0MS I think this is a willful misunderstanding of where art gets its value. First off, “better” is entirely subjective and has no material basis, secondly, the answer to your question is this: why do you think the painting is worth millions but a high quality print worth hundreds
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Patriotic 🇺🇸 Roomba@ctdonath·
@phantasmosis @NaughtalieStone @SHL0MS “pseudo forgery” If an AI does better Monet than Monet, in terms of the inherent artistic value, what’s the problem? Someone fed all the “why it’s not a real Monet” complaints, arguably improving it. Print, hang, “Monet +”.
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@ctdonath @NaughtalieStone @SHL0MS I mean, yes, because at that point you’re engaging in some kind of pseudo forgery. The interesting thing happening here is that it’s on our phones, that’s the contextual game. Otherwise the question you’re posing is: “what do people think of my fake Monet that I didn’t paint?”
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Patriotic 🇺🇸 Roomba@ctdonath·
I can certainly generate a pseudo-Monet image with AI, extrude it to a 3D model to emulate physical paint, print as a relief sculpture, inkjet the image into that surface, frame it, and hang that “painting” on a wall for others to experience. I do have an early AI image with intent to print on canvas and hang on a wall. Maybe I will this weekend given your post. Does that meaningfully change your objection?
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Jediwolf@Jediwolf·
It will take some time for the crowd to digest it but @SHL0MS provocation was a serious conceptual project. The reaction was the artwork. The gallery for it is a JPEG screenshot.
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@kendrictonn True. But also to some extent I don’t even know how much it matters anyways
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@No5mallf3at Also interesting cause the most prominent example of a shower painting in art history are Hockneys very gay images from the 60s
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@ranavain @hecubian_devil I don’t think LLMs substantively add anything to the creative process. The point is the process is the process, whatever inefficiencies there are in the creative process are responsible for the vision and idiosyncrasies of the result. It helps learning in a more tangible way
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Kim Stiens@ranavain·
@phantasmosis @hecubian_devil We already live in a world that doesn't especially reward (financially or socially) creativity, yet people are creative anyway, because its a thing we like to do. I don't think the fact that an LLM can "create" a "painting" will reduce the number of painters or their creativity
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@cd_hooks @willmenaker I feel like everyone forgot that the man was diagnosed with cancer around the time he would have been starting his second term
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@NeoDogmaX @hecubian_devil I would probably argue it’s more often than not right wingers who say “it’s here and it’s not going away, learn to use it, etc etc” leftists are more likely to engage with things like long form/difficult artworks, which aren’t sports but reward process and journey in the same way
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NeoDogma@NeoDogmaX·
@phantasmosis @hecubian_devil It's interesting seeing leftists come to the same conclusion that highly conservative sports coaches came to 100 years ago. Process over results, it's all about the journey, etc
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@DeanLearner @hecubian_devil That’s actually part of my equation: AI is going to compound existing internet related brain damage etc. it’s why I don’t buy the “it’s just a tool, we don’t grieve the loss of x or y arcane skill”
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@Sockppp1 @hecubian_devil I think anyone who thinks this analogy is 1:1 is being a little willfully obtuse, ignoring broader context etc, no offense
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"read a book!" the person who has read only one book says
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Most things can be answered by reading like a single article all the way through, but I understand this is the equivalent of reading the Bible back to front for most of us
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JOURNEY TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN, NEW DRAWING
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@u_m_a_m_i All artists are salesman to some degree but beeple is more of a salesman than an artist. His work is basically memes, which would be interesting if the guy behind them had a thought in his head outside of ingratiating himself to wealthy tech people
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