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@dieworkwear I agree. I think there will always be a market for authenticity and providence. It may be small, but it will be there.

i don't think that's true. factory-made ready-to-wear tailoring has essentially been perfected. and yet people still value a fully benchmade tailoring produced by a tailor. this demonstrates people care about humans being in the process.

@stalman @samsheffer For sure. And, when it comes to where I get my tech news, cranky mad people just aren't that enjoyable to watch/read.

@phorne96 @samsheffer And I get that there’s a lot of darkness to the tech world, but I am generally an optimist about these things long term.

@stalman @samsheffer Totally agree. I think, and can understand, that Nilay and the rest of the Verge have become so tired and burnt out by the shenanigans of the tech industry (PR, overpromising, politics, etc) that they've become cynical to the point of just being cranky and mad all the time.

@samsheffer It’s frustrating because Nilay has such a deep understanding of the industry but has allowed his pet issues to completely take over Verge coverage

@ramez Trust but verify

I'm not saying that I trust LLMs more than I trust doctors. But I wouldn't dream of allowing a doctor to treat me in anything but the most boring ways without discussing it extensively with an LLM first.

@DaveShapi Reasoning by analogy?

What do you call this?

@EODHappyCaptain The third letter said “Sign up for my Skillshare today and get lessons on this and many relevant topics! Use EODHappyCaptain for a 20% discount on your first lesson!”

I left the guy who took over for me 2 notes. I told him when something bad happened, to open the first letter. When something bad happened again, open the second. The first read: blame me. You’re new. I’ll take the heat. The next letter read: you only get one freebie. This is on you. Good luck.

@petergyang @andrewchen I’ve seen them work, but it takes a very specific kind of environment and team to enable it to work. Most of the time teams aren’t empowered, collaborative, or proactive enough, or are meddled with too much, to allow them to work.

@andrewchen Hot take: OKRs, standup, and this waterfall crap never worked anyway :)

in a world of agents, the product role is going to split into two jobs: - one that organizes humans (stakeholders, design, eng) - one that organizes agents (prompts, evals, workflows, etc) Both will be in pursuit of offering the right products to customers, but how you get there will dramatically change. What happens to the typical product rituals? Instead of PRDs, OKRs, standups, product reviews, we'll need the equivalent for agents. Couple wild ideas here... instead of standups: the equivalent is that agents will report back to us based on run logs and anomaly flags. no one needs to say what they did yesterday, the system already did thousands of things. the question is where it broke, where it surprised you, and where it got better. Show us the patterns, the trends, the edge cases - particularly the ones the agents didn't fix automatically. the daily ritual becomes reviewing deltas, scanning failures, and deciding which ones matter. less reporting, more triage instead of OKRs: we’ll need adversarial agents that continuously monitor/grade the system and detect patterns, scoring outcomes on an hourly or daily basis. Rather than setting a quarterly goal of "increase X by 5%" and revisiting slowly -- instead, management will be able to monitor success in real-time and detect trends/patterns towards overall goals instead of PRDs: we won't need waterfall. Prototyping will rule the day, and we’ll need a living agentic loop that mediates customer feedback/ratings and what's being prioritized and built. you don’t hand it to eng, you deploy it into the agent loop. if it’s wrong, it fails visibly and you can revert. if it’s right, it produces the right output instead of product reviews: we'll need simulation systems to examine agent behavior in different scenarios. In an agentic world where UI shifts from buttons/menus to agents automatically doing things, you'll want to examine their behavior before you deploy. You rewind decisions, fork alternate paths, and see how different prompts or constraints would have changed outcomes. the review becomes interactive. less storytelling, more counterfactuals. The PM sits in the middle of this split. On the human side, still aligning taste, risk tolerance, and strategy across people. On the agent side, shaping the actual behavior of the system through prompts, evals, and feedback loops. one side is persuasion. The other is instrumentation. the best ones will collapse the gap, translating intent directly into systems that act on it. the fascinating part is that the agentic loop will run 10000x faster than the human one, and of course, you can "hire" them faster. Thus the “organizing humans” half starts to feel slow and lower impact unless it directly improves the agent loop. Eventually the PM will shift towards agents and maybe ignore the human coordination altogether...

@VibenKoden @StartupArchive_ That’s a good point. If you’re successful that means everything you do is good and should be free from criticism.

@phorne96 @StartupArchive_ maybe you should run Nvidia then - you seem pretty smart

NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang: “I really discourage 1-on-1s” Jensen famously has 60 direct reports. When Stripe founder Patrick Collison points out that this isn’t conventionally considered best practice, Jensen shares his reasoning: “I don’t do 1-on-1s, and almost everything I say, I say to everybody all the time. I don’t really believe there’s any information that I operate on that only one or two people should hear about… I believe that when you give everybody equal access to information, that empowers people. And so that’s number one… Number two, if the CEO’s direct staff is 60 people, the number of layers you’ve removed in a company is probably something like seven.” Patrick offers to steal man the other side of the argument: “1-on-1s are where you provide coaching, where you maybe talk through personal goals and career advancement, where maybe you give feedback on something that you see somebody systematically not doing so well… Do you not do those things or do you do them in a different way?” Jensen responds: “I give you feedback right there in front of everybody. In fact, this is a really big deal. First of all, feedback is learning. For what reason are you the only person who should learn this?… We should all learn from that opportunity… Half the time I’m not right, but for me to reason through it in front of everybody helps everybody learn how to reason through it. The problem I have with 1-on-1s and taking feedback aside is you deprive a whole bunch of people that same learning. Learning from other people’s mistakes is the best way to learn.” Video source: @stripe (2024)

@mattyglesias It’s nice that they’re at least being honest, that the SAVE Act isn’t about election integrity, it’s about retaining control - through voter suppression.

If the SAVE Act doesn’t pass there’s no real point in conservatives even bothering to vote in the midterms imo

It’s nice that they’re at least being honest, that the SAVE Act isn’t about election integrity, it’s about retaining control - through voter suppression.

@RealCynicalFox I wonder if you all honestly don’t understand the point he’s making or you are just disingenuously feigning misunderstanding?

I’m not a Navy guy, so someone may have to help me here. When did attacking from ambush and destroying the enemy while incurring minimal risk to our own personnel become a suboptimal choice?

@DaveShapi Prisoner’s dilemma?

We have one Earth and no viable alternatives, nor any way to get to them. The most rational policy, then, would be to halt all wars and dismantle all nuclear weapons. Why don't we do this?

@BruceBartlett Why does it need to be a “or” conversation? It’s likely an “and” one.

Trump makes many bad decisions. Is this mainly because he is stupid and ignorant or because his staff are afraid to give him honest advice if it contradicts what he wants to believe?

@marcelpociot Different strokes for different folks

Nobody can convince me that the CLI experience for AI agents is better than using a proper GUI 😅 That's just impossible

@CaitlinPacific “The tax dollars aren’t doing what I think they should be doing, therefore I can only conclude they must be doing nothing.”

Move to California and see your tax dollars at rest

@MarcoFoster_ @joerogan If only this had been predictable

Joe Rogan on Iran: “It just seems so insane based on what he ran on. I mean this is why a lot of people feel betrayed. He ran on no more wars and these stupid senseless wars. And then we have one that we can't even really clearly define why we did it”

@petergyang IMHO an “active” user is a user that takes a key action of your product. Book a reservation, sign up for the service, etc. That should all still require identity. So then even if an agent does the action you should be able to capture that.

If the future is agents using your product, how do you even track user retention and build customer loyalty? Is it number of agents that access your APIs/MCP every week? How do you get agents to discover your product - make it super easy for LLMs to find online? All interesting questions to think about. Do folks have good answers?

@RedWavePress “I just don’t get how doing what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan would bother anyone?”

Bill Maher on the war with Iran: “I’m cautiously optimistic unless he puts boots on the ground… I just don’t get what liberals don’t get about liberation. I see so much happiness. I see it in Venezuela. I see it here in Iran. Could we skip the part where we talk about they had so many different reasons to go to war: regime change, we got to get rid of the nukes, and they were supporters of terrorism. It’s all of it.” “How about this? This was a fascist theocracy, and nothing in the Middle East was ever going to get better while they were still there f*cking everything up.”

@tunguz We’re gonna watch The Fugitive with Harrison Ford.

What's a good movie to watch on a rainy Friday evening?