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This is the defence they’re talking about btw.
Judge for yourself, would Stephen Curry be able to handle the Larry Bird Celtics?
With the “handchecking” and the “physicality” of the 80’s.
Give me a break 😭😭😭
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Charles Barkley says Steph Curry would’ve been ‘broken in half’ in the ’90s NBA “I love Steph Curry, but if anybody with a shred of common sense tells me Steph could’ve taken the licks Michael [Jordan] was taking, come on, man” “Not just the body blows, but the hand-checking, where you could grab a guy and he couldn’t move” “If Steph got hit like Michael was getting hit, he’d get broken in half. That’s just a fact”
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@kweiffberguhlla @LETSSEATALK @percyishim Folks just don’t get words/terms having meanings. They’re trying to redefine the term “point guard” to fit Steph’s game play. He’s a guard whose primary duty on his team is to shoot/score, not facilitate. A Shooting Guard
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@LETSSEATALK @quebecgolf22 @percyishim he's already played longer n more games than most of the ppl ahead of him, he barely cracking top 25 rn purely off longevity. it's not fair to call him a pg when he doesn't have the same on ball responsibility as literally any other pg in history. by nature he plays off guard
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@quebecgolf22 @percyishim The gravity of Curry isn't like anyone else 💀
Nobody has to be guarded at mid court because he can actually hit those
Oh yeah he also has almost 7k career assist so people acting like he not distributing when he does
Nobody moves off balllike him give me a break
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@vogsberger @LETSSEATALK @percyishim Who cares what defenses would be scared of. Magic’s passing made players like A.C. Green & Kurt Rambis potential threats on offense, by them simply cutting towards the basket. It also led to more rings. Mind you still avg 20 pts
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@quebecgolf22 @LETSSEATALK @percyishim A screen from Steph facilitates an offensive play more than a pass from Magic and that’s just the truth. Which offensive system would defenses be more scared of, an offensive scheme ran by Steph or Magic. Maybe if Magic was a better shooter he would be used differently.
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Gilbert Arenas says Steph Curry is not even top 5 Point Guards of all time and here’s why.
“Somebody was like is Steph Curry top 5 point guard and I said no. He’s not top 5 point guard”
“Point guard is someone who is facilitating.. you know getting everyone involved”
“He’s not a top 5 point guard but he’s top 3 guard in the NBA”
“Point guard you’re talking about Magic, Chris Paul, Lonzo Ball those are point guards”
“Your kyrie, Curry, Damian those are hybrid guards. So you can’t compare your 28:7 versus 10 and 17 assists”
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@Stats_N_Facts LBJ has never been that shifty. Like Rodman said, he either drops his shoulder and bulls his way to the basket or uses his off arm to push off. Offensive foul back then
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Love how Grant Hill, an athletic and highly skilled all-around player, cooked the best teams of the 90s, but LeBron - a bigger, stronger, faster, more skilled version of that archetype - would somehow be the one who struggles.
This shows how insecure 90s fetishists have become.
Fastbreak Hoops@FastbreakHoops5
Grant Hill's crossover-and-dunk on Scottie Pippen back in 1998 😳
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@LETSSEATALK @percyishim Who said anything about his passing ability, or padding assists? The point is, his objective on the team/court is to score, not facilitate for others. He’s the epitome of a SG. He plays more like Rip Hamilton & Reggie Miller than any PG.
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@quebecgolf22 @percyishim Shooting Guards aren't top 20 all time in assist
Was Tony Parker a SG?
There more to the position than stat padding assist
Curry has incredible passing ability
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@vogsberger @LETSSEATALK @percyishim Man, we’re having a good conversation, ramble on. lol. But what Gil said was spot on. You can’t redefine the position then compare it to the old definition. These guys today are hybrid guards. They can handle and pass, but their objective is to score.
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@quebecgolf22 @LETSSEATALK @percyishim Ik I’m rambling, but the reason Steph is so great is because he facilitates offense without the ball which has never been done before and that’s because of the attention his shooting ability draws. Steph does everything a regular pg does but it’s ascetically looks different.
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@LETSSEATALK @vogsberger @percyishim You heard exactly why he’s not a PG from Gil. Any center or PF today can bring the ball up the court. Magic avg over 7 Rebs a game, but no one calls him a sf. Using raw stats without context as if that tells the story is disingenuous.
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@vogsberger @quebecgolf22 @percyishim And Steph Curry is literally well on his way to being top 20 all time In assist
He brings the ball up and creates for others like a traditional PG
On top of the off ball work and shooting 🤷
I don't get how anyone can say he not a PG
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@EthosKnicks @jhampssr @elrawkador @0xBassey You all are responding to me based on JBs theory, not what I said. I didn’t say anything about players/employees not adding value to a company. Again, the point is, he’s likening players/employees to CEOs & board members. They are not the same
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@quebecgolf22 @jhampssr @elrawkador @0xBassey Long time GMs and execs should qualify too. If a player like Curry, lifts an organization and its value- he should absolutely get a stake. It’s a good point he’s made. A player like Curry has done more for a franchise than you’re realizing.
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Jaylen Brown says long-time NBA players should receive equity in the franchises they help build
“If you work for Apple or Nike, and you’re a CEO or you’ve been there a long time, you get equity in the company.”
“I think athletes should be looked at the same way.”
“If you play for the Celtics for 20 years, you should get a piece of equity.”
“You helped create that growth.”
“That’s the part that gets lost in translation.”
“You get compensated for doing your job.”
“But you don’t get compensated for the growth.”
“In major corporations, you do.”
“That’s something I’ve proposed.”
“We’ve got another CBA coming up, so we’ll see.”
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@CoachCrazy @jhampssr @elrawkador @0xBassey Anything “can” be true. I didn’t say they “couldn’t”. Employees can get whatever their terms of employment say they’re entitled to. I said players aren’t equivalent to CEOs and/or board members. And usually employees don’t get ownership in companies
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@jhampssr @quebecgolf22 @elrawkador @0xBassey Employees can certainly get equity, or things like stock options. But we're also talking about a unique ecosystem. I'd be interested to get more granular with Jaylen's plan.
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@vogsberger @LETSSEATALK @percyishim Their offense was built for the strength of the team, shooting. Dray plays more like the PG of that team. I don’t know why folks try so hard to make Steph something he’s not. Gil explained perfectly what a PGs job is.
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@quebecgolf22 @LETSSEATALK @percyishim Dude half the warriors offense is split action and 2 guys guessing Steph gonna get the ball up high and Steph’s teammates gets a wide open cut to the basket for a layup.
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@LETSSEATALK @percyishim Yeah, constant motion because he’s looking to get open to shoot. What position does that? A SG, Reggie Miller, Rip Hamilton, etc. The gravity stuff folk have created has nothing to do with being a PG but indicates he’s more of a shooter than anything
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@quebecgolf22 @percyishim Literally constant motion never just standing and watching
No other "PG" does that
Just ask the defenses what a pain in the ass he is even when the ball isn't in his hands
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@LETSSEATALK @percyishim That makes no sense. Steph not making 3s isn’t that impactful. A lot of players draw attention, but he’s not “creating” shots for others without touching the ball. Him running around screens doesn’t make him a PG.
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@percyishim He creates shots for others without even touching the ball
The others listed need the ball in their hands to be impactful
Conclusion I prefer a Curry style PG not a ball dominant one
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@PONTA6565 How can Kobe be a better version of MJ (on steroids), but MJ is the better player? Nostalgia won’t allow guys to say someone is better than MJ, while they’re literally describing it
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Reggie Miller made a valid point.🔥
“People often get hung up in the GOAT debate, but among the three, I think the best player is MJ. Kobe is a clone and a better version — he’s MJ on steroids. He’s also a better jump shooter, and he perfected the fundamentals to master them like the original.”
"If we're going stack-for-stack player – to me: MJ, Kobe, and then LeBron."
—Source: (The Dan Patrick Show)
All of us NBA fans 100% agree with Reggie Miller's opinion. 🙏
Most athletes and sensible people don’t truly rank LeBron in the top 10 all-time, but they’re afraid to say it publicly.
That’s why we respect straight shooters like Reggie Miller — MJ’s old rivals who aren’t scared to tell the truth.
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@jhampssr @elrawkador @0xBassey Playing on a team is not the same as making decisions as a CEO or the board, as he stated. Those are the GMs and execs, who would take credit for drafting the players & assembling the teams. The talent doesn’t usually get ownership
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@quebecgolf22 @elrawkador @0xBassey The Seahawks sold for 9 billion dollars, if Sam darnold is the qb there for 20 years and wanted equity I’m not sure why that’s a problem? Curry changed economic dynamics and stayed on the same team nearly 20 years lol it’s not insane to want some you personally helped
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@quebecgolf22 @jhampssr @0xBassey I obviously didn’t listen. I only read the caption. Why type out such a long caption if it’s not the full quote? A thousand apologies.
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@Semper_Mello @0xBassey How many other jobs give employees a piece of the company, after working 20 years? These guys have guaranteed contracts that pay them even if they’re not on a team. Most people would get nothing if they were unemployed
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@jhampssr @elrawkador @0xBassey He literally said if you’re a CEO or member of the board. Players are neither. Employees in companies contribute to growth and don’t usually get a piece of the company. These guys are compensated to the point where many of them make generational money
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@elrawkador @0xBassey Again you can’t read or hear, a ceo & owning equity are 2 completely different things..
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@sarobertson_ In the US, I ultimately needed gallbladder surgery, but instead of running tests, the specialist prescribed laxatives and stool softeners for 3 months. I’d already lost over 30 lbs in 2 months. This was the level of care with good insurance
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Kelly: My husband, we were in Canada. He got sick. He was in the emergency room three days. His bill was $800 for three days. We could not do that in the USA, being in the emergency room three days and only $800.
Jennings: I think describing the Canadian system where people wait weeks and weeks or months and months and months for very basic health care procedures, you do not want that here. I promise you.
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