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Heinrich Himmler and "The Ancient One".
Recently the norse high-priest @BornLik23266 crossed into frisian territory making many claims and accusations against the Oera Linda Book, aka "Himmler´s Bible".
Similarly, all the way back in 2018, when @Henrik_Palmgren had Siobhan Higgins-Welter on @redicetv ,Tom Rowsell also tried a bit of that viking cancel-culture. He wrote:
"F*cking red ice did another show on Oera Linda. Some irish bint with a lit phd saying how we were all matriachal.fucking livid",
and further:"Ffs. Its trash. Can´t believe the alt right is associated with this conspiracy shit. Red ice was supposed to have grown out of this".
Siobhan a doctorate in ancient irish litterature had through her studies become convinced of the authenticity of the book. Something Rowsell did not appreciate. As with Vikernes, the obvious reason being a certain passage in the book, which concern a frisian steersman named Wodin.
But let´s return to the recent comments by Vikernes, he states:
"Even Himmler (who WANTED it to be real) ultimately distanced himself from it."
Is this true?
No. As is well-known, on the 17th of april 1945 Himmler wrote the following in a letter to his wife and daughter:
“These times are ubelievably hard for all of us, and yet things will, this is my firm belief – take a turn for the best. But it is hard.
You dear ones, just stay healthy for my sake. The Ancient One will protect us, especially the good german people, and will not let us perish”
With “The Ancient One” obviously referring to “Wralda”. A term used in the Oera Linda Book for the divine maker of time and the origin of the laws of nature.
But why did Vikernes go through the trouble of lying about all this?
Around that time Himmler was chief of police including the secret police, Leader of the NSDAP, Minister of the Interiour and last but not least, leader of the SS, which naturally made him in charge of all things pagan. And, especially the last part, I believe is what Vikernes does not like. In a way Himmler´s belief in Wralda shows that, the boss himself, unlike Varg, did not believe in Odin and Mimer, Freya and the dwarves, Loki and the Stallion or any other of the stories, that has come down to us, from the hand of the catholic priest Snorri Sturluson. Instead, Himmler went against the party-line, even for pagans, and studied The Oera Linda Book in private.
On solemn occasions he would express his beliefs,as he did at the funeral of Heydrich in 1943. He notes:
"Today at Heydrich's funeral I intentionally expressed in my oration from my deepest conviction a belief in God, a belief in fate, in the Ancient One as I called him —that is the old Germanic word: Wralda."
Himmler had developed a disgust for the catholic priesthood, especially because of the brutal christianization of the Saxons and the utterly depraved torture and public burning of 10.000s of women during the "witch-trials", which were instigated by the Pope. These things were unforgiveable to Himmler, and in the Oera Linda Book, he must, with great interest have found and studied the many ancient warnings against the priests and the power of their lies.
Vikernes then goes on to claim :"Wüst and others concluded that the Oera Linda book was not an authentic ancient text but a modern forgery. The linguistic evidence, anachronisms, and lack of historical corroboration were impossible to ignore.” ."
Is this true?
No. Again, the Thulean sorcerer is struggling with the facts, because Walther Wüst along with Herman Wirth and Otto Huth were the ones who supported the authenticity of the book at the highly publicised debate in 1934. I suspect Vikernes has confused Wüst with someone else. Arthur Hübner, maybe?
Anyway, in 1934 a "debate" did take place on the Oera Linda Book, which was highly publicized. This was after the establishment of The Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, aswell as The Reich´s Press Chamber, which later banned the Oera Linda Book from their catalogues.
It was also not long after the "Night of the Long Knives", in the hey-day of ideological “unity”, so to speak. The occasion for the debate was Hermann Wirths edition of the book. And at this debate a "scientific paper-dating" of an obviously fake version of the original manuscript was paraded around, along with claims of the language being "too modern" and the whole thing simply being a ship-builder´s "prank".
Himmler obviously understood the motivation behind the smear-campaign and in 1936 quietly, at the recommendation of Walther Wüst commisioned Otto Mausser, a true expert in ancient germanic dialects including frisian, to finally study the purity of the language objectively, in order to prove or disprove its authenticity. Something which obviously cannot be decided by paper-dating, anyway.
Otto Mausser had not participated in the debacle of 1934, and was respected by all sides, which made Himmler and Rosenberg agree that no-one was allowed to discuss the Oera Linda Book in public before Otto Mausser had finished his work.
Many academics who had participated in the campaign against the book in 1934 were not happy about the thought, that Mausser would spend years combing through the frisian, and made many attempts to stop it. On the 25th of February 1936 Himmler again made his position clear:
"When it comes to Oera Linda Book, I am of a different opinion. All of German science should actually be happy and grateful when I proceed more scientifically than they themselves do in the academies. I am not so bold as to assume from the outset, that the Oera Linda Book is genuine. But in the academies they boldly did from the very outset assume that the Ura Linda Book was fake.
Richthofen and others are therefore unable to ascertain the authenticity of the Oera Linda Book. Only the linguist can do that. As was usual with all such works, a necessary textual criticism must be carried out in an exact manner, unhindered by any demagoguery, perhaps for a duration of two years."
After 5 years of research Otto Mausser then wrote the following to Sievers on the 20th of June 1942:
"Regarding the lectures by Heyting and Overwijn. It was of course particularly interesting for me to hear, that the Dutch also do not doubt the authenticity of the Oera Linda Book. The difference between me and them is that I can provide solid proof.”
And about a month later:
"it being a forgery by [Cornelis] over de Linde is impossible"
But, why bother about such things, when we have real experts like SurviveTheJive” and Thulean sorcerers to do the hard research for us, right?
If this little piece of infighting has made you want to learn more about Wralda and the Oera Linda book, you can hear discussions of relevant chapters and read along here
1. The accusations against the priests
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2. The three wheels and wralda
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3. More on Wralda and the teachings of the frisians
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The quotes from the correspondences, were translated from “Chronologie zur Ura Linda Chronik” by Gerd Simon and Dagny Guhr 2005
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The english source for the Himmler letter of 1945 is "The Private Heinrich Himmler" p.283
@Ehrenkrieg2 collected further material on this issue here
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Irrefuteable proof of the inauthenticity of the manuscript on which paper-dating "tests" has been conducted were submitted already in 1993 by Harm Menkens. Anyone can easily verify this by comparing the original facsimile with the manuscript currently on display in the frisian museum. Post about it here:
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