jesse stevens
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@DavidSHFraser I don’t know I got a little bit bored of it by the time I got to the depths. Outside of the ship and the islands both of which I’d completed before the depths. The games just rinse and repeat without much to break up the monotony. I still completed it but I doubt I’ll ever replay
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>they removed fighting alien fish creatures from the game
>the reason people loved the first game
Dropped. No wonder they kept this secret until now.
Pirat_Nation 🔴@Pirat_Nation
Subnautica 2 does not allow players to kill fish or other sea creatures using weapons or tools. Unknown Worlds developers have confirmed no plans to add lethal combat mechanics in future patches. Gameplay design lead Anthony Gallegos explained the game’s philosophy: “The tone of the game we’re making is that you are here to exist on this planet, not to dominate it. You’re not the conquering colonist here. The goal here is not for you to master the world and bend it to your will.” Players can still capture small fish for cooking. Defense relies only on tools like flares to distract predators and the multitool to repel creatures. The studio is improving these non-lethal options in response to feedback but won’t add lethal tools. Developers view this as core to the game’s identity and are not planning a combat-heavy experience.
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@DavidSHFraser @Customds @DAKKADAKKA1 For. If you know where to dive and skirt the edge the game doesn’t register it as the depths and half the creatures don’t spawn in. Might help with your lag problem.
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@DavidSHFraser @Customds @DAKKADAKKA1 I played on PS4 as well but I never had any issues with lag. But yo be fair I didn’t stay down there long. They’re really wasn’t anything down there other than the cave entrance which you technically as far as the games coding is concerned don’t actually need to enter “the depth”
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@darkeyedseer @DAKKADAKKA1 I mean my point was that know that. Also I just used the sub to distract it. If you do it right you can split it’s attention and get it before your sun gets crushed.
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@redrex2002 @DAKKADAKKA1 I tried to kill them they scared me when something scares me my first gut reaction is to lash out and try to take it out first.🤷♂️
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@chibiaigis @DAKKADAKKA1 We clearly have extremely different play styles
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@DAKKADAKKA1 What are you talking about bro you could never fight the fish in the first game
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@DavidSHFraser @Customds @DAKKADAKKA1 Actually the leeches you kinda did have to kill otherwise you really couldn’t progress
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@Customds @DAKKADAKKA1 1. You can't just cook fish now.
2. You didn't have to kill the creatures in sub 1, but you could if they were being annoying.
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@darkeyedseer @DAKKADAKKA1 That fact that you know how many hits it takes kinda speaks for itself.
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@DAKKADAKKA1 Who was actively hunting and killing the reaper in the first one it takes 200 hits to kill a reaper the only way to do it is by either abusing the stasis gun or abusing the prawn suit both of are which is extremely tedious and unfun so who was actively doing it all the time?
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@s8n Why is this so true tho. Like my dad cooks stake every once in awhile and I swear it’s amazing but he’s only cooked it like 6 times in my entire life
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@BigBoris_2 For get the pieces falling into place. Where did the pieces come from.
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If you have any idea of the astronomical amount of things that had to fall into place for us to be here, you’ll also understand that believing it all happened by chance is the dumbest possible explanation for our existence.
Patrick Neve@catholicpat
people trust him because he used to wear a labcoat on TV 🫠
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@Elgato83371553 @Pirat_Nation Yeah theirs a survival log on the knife like that. But than they also tell you about a guy who survived 86 days or something like that on a much worse planet that if he had a gun he might have made it off.
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@redrex2002 @Pirat_Nation But if in the first game they tell you there are no firearms because some crazy person killed a lot of people and that's why there's only basic survival equipment
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Subnautica 2 devs say "go play Sons of the Forest" if you don't like its lack of violence.
The game focuses on underwater exploration, and you cannot kill most creatures.
On the official Discord, one player asked why killing is impossible in SN2 as it makes no sense. Level designer Artyom O’Rielly replied,
“This is not a killing game, so go play Sons of the Forest if you want to kill.” Another developer said, “The team discusses this a lot inside the studio and may let players catch small fish for food, but large creatures will stay safe so the game feels right.”
This idea comes from the first Subnautica, as the team wants players to discover things, feel wonder, and live with ocean life instead of fighting it.
A fan-made mod already lets players kill creatures, and the studio is reading all feedback. It plans to add better ways to scare off creatures but will not add weapons.
Early access is expected to last up to 3 years.
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@redrex2002 @Oranyaa_ That's the problem with these shows: we can see the writers right through it.
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I hate this kind of worldbuilding.
“I'm not using magic bro. I'm using uhh quantum energy. It's totally different!"
A world feels realistic when it behaves consistently according to its own inner rules. You're not doing anything special by throwing around fake science jargon.
Dastanovich@Dastanovich_
Adi's love of devaluing game mechanics by trying to apply 'real world' explanation is really annoying
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@DevTwitX I saw a few people saying they weren’t even going to let people mid weapons into it. Which just to clarify I don’t know if that’s true but if it is that’s really dumb. At that point you’re just forcing you’re ideology on to your players rather than standing on your own.
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@redrex2002 Agreed. It's their external politicking that is affecting their internal development.
Either way it's the kind of garbage consumers should be aware of.
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This was literally a thing with the first game as well.
Yes, there were reasons they decided to not have guns in the first game and they carried that forward into Below Zero and into this game.
It actually is part of the brand at this point.
Not saying you have to like it, but calling it pacifist ideology woven into the game ignores the fact that Subnautica has always been designed this way.
Grummz@Grummz
Subnautica 2 is a pacifist ideology woven into a game. Players have noticed you cannot defend yourself against attacking fish. Not even in self defense. Only passive means are available. This was by design. You can't kill anything because the devs feel it would support gun violence and aspects of colonialism: "Subnautica is one vote towards a world with less guns. A reminder that there is another way forward." "We want people to feel like they're learning to adapt to the world, rather than being a conqueror or dominator." "We aren't a killing game. Go play Sons of the Forest or something if you want to kill." The anti-violence stance got stronger from Subnautica 1 -> 2, which now has a complete "no kill" policy even when the fish can still kill *you*.
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@DevTwitX Like a lazer cuter or something but man they just teased you the whole time for nothing.
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@DevTwitX Which I think was them trying to show you “Look gun bad” or something like that but honestly it just made them look awesome and set it up like you were fixing to get one or something like it. I would have settled for a new tool with that tech even.
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@DevTwitX @MasteroftheTDS from contempt. It’s a show that you want better for something. Not all criticism should be heeded but it should be heard. Even little thing like texture critics in early development (which might sound stupid but they) are still valuable feedback.
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@DevTwitX @MasteroftheTDS To a certain extent I do. Things like the text example but stuff like this that has no intent on being added or is over looked, no. I think the problem is too many people see criticism as “just being mean” or an attempt to put it down. But the reality is criticism isn’t breed
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