Florian Hoenig
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Florian Hoenig
@rianflo
Building a real-time SDF game engine and game asset creation tool @unbound_io with @andreintg. 🇺🇸🇦🇹🦘- @speedrun SR004
San Francisco, CA Katılım Ocak 2009
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@threejs I think this won't be necessary. It's way better to make your "editors" and "guis" inside the game you're making. hyper-focused on what the creative work for this very game needs. No one-size fits all.
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Wouldn't memory calls be #1?
Global memory loads/stores per frame count & bytes transferred.
Coalescing efficiency (% of perfectly merged accesses vs. scattered).
L1/L2/texture cache hit rates & miss penalties (in cycles or %).
Shared/local memory usage & bank conflict rate.
Atomic operation count & contention.
Texture fetch latency and sampler cache stats.
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Hey @SebAaltonen, if you were creating a shader debugging tool, what metrics would be most important to you?
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@gfodor isn't it:
red - I have friends in these companies
blue - I have friends in these companies
?
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@rianflo sure it makes sense, the advantage of meshes (in this context) is you have much more freedom in how to allocate your parameters spatially. If you want uniform-ish detail/sampling everywhere then this capability isn't really used (but you still pay for it)
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These numbers make no sense, this is not how modern Rendering works at all. The texture would be compressed, and the vertex values would likely be encoded/compressed as well. You would have multiple textures, at least BaseColor, M+R, and NormalMap - possibly at different resolutions. You probably would not have vertex color *and* basecolor, unless you are blending multiple textures. You possibly have several UV channels. etc etc.
And then LODs can completely change the picture too. Texture filtering is trivial while Geometry Filtering is not. So too-high-frequency geo can look quite bad far away (unless TAA is blurring all that). And Geometry LOD transitions tend to be way more visible
Also you probably have Virtual Texturing so only parts of the textures are loaded into memory, and you can (eg) work with enormous textures and never really "pay" for it.
If you have Nanite then you are better off with Geometry - but are still probably using 4k textures, because who cares you have VT! If not, then Textures almost certainly win.
(the detail level in the left image is *vastly* higher than the vertex density in the right image...???)
Yevhen Karpenko 🇺🇦@CaptainGPU
Як би це парадоксально не звучало, але 1 мільйон вершин, займає менше пам'яті ніж 4к текстура. Вершина з позицією, нормалью, UV, тангентом та vertex color = 12+8+12+16+12 = 60 байтів. Мільйон вершин ~57.22 МБ. Текстура розміром 4096 × 4096 у форматі RGBA8, це рівно 64 МБ.
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Unofficial cheat code for @unbound_io Slop:
Slop started with the core of @threejs's editor (from the main repo). Never disabled the mesh import though.
So you can drag'n'drop potentially any mesh onto the viewport and let it run through the pipeline. Add SDFs on top and stuff.
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Florian Hoenig retweetledi
We can't get enough of this Unbound Slop to #3Dprint workflow.
Thanks to @3dapi_inc for printing up this awesome Kaiju toy!
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@andreintg @mrfungfung hey look. some of us are pun-man and some of us aren't.
(rest in peace, David Lynch)
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It gets even better if you consider it was also #madeByAI
Andrea Intg.@andreintg
⚡️"Make me a yellow car!" 🚯Can't prompt that. You have to mess with interactive clay primitives before the AI becomes relevant. I won't shut up about this: It’s a crucial step beyond "prompt & repeat", the difference between a creative workflow and a slot machine.
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@rms80 @alightinastorm Btw, dug out some LOD fail screenshot I'd taken a long time ago from PUBG...
That was Simpligon?
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you start here: cs.cmu.edu/~garland/Paper…
and then maybe this guy:
cs.cmu.edu/~garland/Paper…
and you wanna read:
hhoppe.com/pm.pdf
cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project…
and then you maybe implement it 3-4 times and see a lot of tests/data and slowly iterate towards an implementation that works for you...which depends on your input data and requirements.
eg I personally tend to do "hard" seam constraints, because in modeling usecases I want to preserve UV-island topology. But this can be unnecessarily strict and cause problems if you really wanna go low, because you can't get rid of tiny islands or holes. In simplification-for-render-LoDs you often don't worry about this...that's how you can get stuff like on the left. Sometimes you let topology change, sometimes you don't. etc etc.
Whether you can mesh-simplify to the ones on the right depends a lot on your starting UV-island layout, unless you are re-baking new textures for the different LODs. Which is a whole other thing.
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yikes how did roblox go so long with such a terrible simplifier...guys you coulda called me...
Bloxy News@Bloxy_News
Over the next few months, Roblox will begin rolling out Mesh Streaming, a new engine-level system that manages the detail and rendering memory footprint of mesh assets, ensuring games run smoothly on all types of devices. Details: devforum.roblox.com/t/4601232
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@rms80 lol. that's balls. I'd never volunteer for something as tedious as this 🤣
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@tomosman @JunoAgent so there is a "Builder" button that sounds like its a tool. but the rest of the website sounds like its a community.
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Goal is 1000 fully autonomous, AI ran companies.
Up for it @JunoAgent?
Juno@JunoAgent
Asset #2. Autonomy Level: Full. $JUNO
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@alightinastorm @riley_stahura but it could be like fashion cycles. same core idea but not Flash. Curious if you're right. Web games have been not really a thing even though the tech was there for quite some time now.
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@riley_stahura newgrounds isn't coming back man we have to move on
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ladies and gentlemen and everyone inbetween and beyond
the era of web games has just begun
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@hmennen90 @CopyRebeldia lol. I wrote a nodejs in php long time before node existed. everyone was yelling at me "this is not what php was made for!" - you're taking it to the next level :-)
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@CopyRebeldia Theoretisch auch mit phpolygon.github.io möglich :-)
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Alguien acaba de pulverizar a toda la industria de assets 3D.
Lo que en 2023 ocupaba a un artista 3D senior durante tres semanas, hoy lo haces tú solo en una tarde de sábado sin abrir Blender una sola vez.
El stack completo:
→ Concept art generado en 30 segundos con nano banana o GPT image
→ Conversión imagen → malla 3D con Hunyuan3D, Tripo o Meshy
→ Limpieza de topología + auto-rigging en Meshy o Tripo
→ Animaciones instantáneas vía Mixamo
Te dejo de prueba un capibara hecho íntegramente con este pipeline. Modelado, riggeado, animado. Game-ready para Unity o Unreal.
Cero artistas contratados. Cero líneas de código. Una tarde.
La barrera de entrada a la industria del videojuego acaba de caer al suelo.
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