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@pot8um and there are social and economic consequences when this is not the case. These are the terms of capitalism; they are also realistically the founding terms of many/most heteronormative relationships. No man is ever loved through pity; and this has significant consequences.

@pot8um I'm seeing this tweet at random & unsure of the context but fwiw humiliation can be a survival issue for men. The world doesn't tolerate men who live in a state of ongoing inhibition or inactivity, which are the outcomes of humiliation. Men are expected to be on the front foot>

men who cry 'misandry' do so from a place of humiliation, not survival to them, being humiliated by a woman is just as oppressive as the rampant violent misogyny that women have faced for centuries their egos are infinitely more important to them than the life of any woman

Trad wife energy.

@ClarkeMicah @HiddenYorkshire For want of anywhere else to ask this (though it is related to Christian ethics): Have you ever written specifically about wealth, poverty and inequality in the UK, Peter?

.@hiddenyorkshire. TGhere is nothing 'snobby' about order, literacy, tradition or poetry. Everybody appreciates them and everyone benfits from them. The objection to 'happy clappy' is that it is the wrong register for something so important, like playing Beethoven on a tin whistle.

@charleswayne13 @CarolynGorman_ for the most part an outcome of neoliberal capitalism.

@charleswayne13 @CarolynGorman_ Contemporary online dating/gender discourse is not really about making people happier, its a type of moral panic over birthrates and singleness. There is an assumed agency involved, as per the OP here - as if there has been a political plan for the present scenario. Really it is>

Yes, dating problems is it. Not enough marriageable men. If you wanted to lower the coupling rate, here's how you'd do it: - make people isolate themselves i.e. covid - disfavor men in higher ed, making them less attractive to women who then have higher levels of education - disfavor men in employment, making them less attractive to women based on lower provider potential - tell women obesity is beautiful rather than a health detriment, making them less attractive to men - tell men they're a problem and constantly harassing women, making them afraid to approach women or even look at them in social settings - give men the internet (porn and gambling will lower any man's time/ambition to put effort in with real women) - tell women and men they can/should date around, lowering obligation on men to lock it in while wasting away women's biological clock for kids - downplay the social and economic value of marriage whoops we did all that

@broadwaybabyto @TheKarlKolchak Russell Brand is a demonstrably terrible person and his victims should be believed. Americans should refrain from talking as if their legal system is that of the entire world; it's unhelpful and confusing. Both these things can be true.

@TheKarlKolchak She was still a minor and he was still twice her age and in a position of power. Why are you so eager to defend predators?

This is rape. Call it rape. Russel Brand says he raped a 16 year old girl. You can’t “have sex” with a minor. They can’t consent. Language matters.

@MeghanEMurphy @CostelloWilliam @SimonMarshall27 FWIW it seemed possible to me, that you might've actually been speaking at cross purposes, and both making valid but somewhat separate points. If so, that's the sort of thing that can be ironed out easily enough, hypothetically.

@MeghanEMurphy @CostelloWilliam @SimonMarshall27 rephrasing for clarity, seems at best churlish, but moreso a bit hostile and arrogant, which more than anything, is a werid and confusing response. It isn't 'thin skinned' to think this, nor is WIlliam 'upset'.

Women who make poor choices in terms of who they partner with suffer the consequences personally. Men who target young women or girls harm young women and girls. Again, I am perplexed by the lack of critical thought happening from men in this conversation…

@MeghanEMurphy @CostelloWilliam @SimonMarshall27 It really doesn't matter - you, being aware of the point(s) you want to make, could simply have the good grace to put them another way for the sake of clarity and in generosity of spirit of the discussion, rather than starting a tirade.

@s7c20 @CostelloWilliam @SimonMarshall27 How would you describe an inability to discern my point based on the words I write?

@MeghanEMurphy @CostelloWilliam @SimonMarshall27 of fact, simply unclear as to the real underlying point you were trying to make in your initial reply, because even though it came with supercillious asides about men, it didn't actually seem to engage with the specific points William has plotted out.

@MeghanEMurphy @CostelloWilliam @SimonMarshall27 "emotional and oversensitive". The reverse is happening here. It is of course not unusual for people on Elon Musk's website to be making broad perjorative statements (in this case, about men's reading comprehension) but you cannot serious call this 'neutral'. It was, as a matter>

@MeghanEMurphy This seems a little excessive. @CostelloWilliam 's point is still valid when ethics around personal choice and responsibility are explicitly factored in.

You guys are having reading comprehension issues. You can choose who you have a relationship with. You can be attracted to whoever you happen to be attracted to. You don’t have to act on that attraction. Maybe men are having trouble understanding the difference because they are the irrational sex who act based on emotion rather than ethics or rational thought

Jota forever btw