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Joseph Talbot
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Web designer at @ox_it, music lover, drummer, cyclist, football fan, skateboarder, dad (all views somebody else's). On the bench for @balkanwanderers.
Oxford, UK Katılım Haziran 2009
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Reposting this from FB with @MichaelRosenYes ' permission. This is a really astute and plausible analysis of what is being done in Gaza and Lebanon and why - possibly the best I have read yet. Do, please, take the time to read it:
"I was on the demonstration today and listened to the speeches. I think that plenty of people are getting it wrong. I don't think that the US and the UK are 'complicit' with what Israel is doing. I don't the the US and the UK are 'collaborating'. I don't even really think that the US and the UK are 'supplying arms'. To me, these words don't explain what has happened this last year and is happening right now. For those words to make sense ('complicit', 'collaborate', 'supply'), it would suggest that the US and the UK are doing Israel a favour, or are leaping in to 'help' Israel.
But objectively, the US (and its allies) have gone beyond being complicit, collaborating, and supplying. The vast tonnage of bombs, the massive use of US aircraft, drones, munitions and high tech back-up, can, to my mind, only be interpreted as the US (and allies including us) doing this for its own reasons. What's going on is an enactment of US policy.
If I'm right (and I accept I may not be), it would mean a realignment of how we view what's going on. It would mean dropping the pretence that the US is a mediator, and/or a supporter. What's going on would not be a matter of Israel drawing up new boundaries, carrying out mass slaughter, widening the area of conflict to include all the surrounding areas, but it would be US policy. It would mean us seeing what's going on as stages in how the US would like the Middle East to be this year, next year and for the next years.
If true, this would take me to thinking ahead to something else. Many in the US administration now accept that the Iraq War was a mistake. It was a sudden, unprovoked, blitz-type war. Perhaps, the US is envisaging something different this time: a long-term war fought in terms of constant small-scale warfare against Iran and its allies, exhausting and crushing them under the weight of superior, almost inexhaustible firepower. Unlike the Iraq War, this time the US has a skilled, experienced, highly motivated ally on the ground. Note: not like the decaying, corrupt puppets of the South Vietnam government, but an ideological force, (Israel) whose views hold sway in most of the western governments and western populations. But to the point, they're there, on the ground, ready and able to do the bombing, to seize the land, and to justify it.
Behind all this, lies a question why? This can't feasibly be, (as people like Douglas Murray insist it is) about 'values' ie Judeo-Christianity vs Islam. Would a modern state feasibly spend billions on fighting for Christianity against Islam? There must be material reasons lying behind this onslaught, which the ideological stuff about 'values' can be used to justify what's going on. Clearly the Middle East holds within it vast resources that the US and allies believe ('know'?) they need and/or have some control over its production and distribution. In addition is the power of what we've come to call the 'military-industrial' complex. Built into the US government and economy is this huge chunk of never-ending production and profit-making. What we call 'tech' is a huge part of this complex too. In one sense, the US administration and government serves the purpose of making sure that the military-industrial complex gets its contracts, uses up its 'products' (guns, bombs, planes, drones, tech), gets new contracts, on and on and on. In other words, when the government commits to war, it gives the complex what it wants.
So, coming back to where I started, I think we're getting it wrong, if we think the US is 'complicit' or 'collaborating'. Instead, we should think of it as 'pursuing', 'driving', 'carrying out' war (or wars) in the Middle East, informed by what didn't work before, trying to make this one (these ones) work better.
And, if we turn that round 180 degrees, it means that in effect, the Palestinians are fighting against the mercenary forces of the US.
I understand why the left has tended to construct 'Israel' or 'Zionism' and 'Zionists' as the enemy but I'm now of the feeling that this is misleading. Thinking of what's going on in that way, draws us into how Israel and Zionism sees it - a local fight for the self-determination of the Jews. I see the left dragged into endless arguments about the nature of the Israeli state, the origins of Zionism, or the nature of the Balfour Agreement etc etc. I'm now of the view even if that was all relevant before, it's no longer relevant. What's going on now is much more like the Vietnam War, other than that US pilots are not actually flying the planes, and US men and women are not 'on the ground'. They don't need to be because the aims and objectives of the people who are on the ground are a perfect match for the aims and objectives of the US, with none of the flakiness of the South Vietnamese.
As I say, this is only me thinking aloud. I know there are strong disagreements with this view. I know there are people who would prefer something more nuanced - and I accept that it may have been more nuanced in the past. However, this is my view of where we are now as of 2024.
Thanks for reading.
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I called families to tell them their beloved was dying. I read out messages from absent family members. I saw the British public behave with such *staggering* decency as they obeyed the rules to protect the vulnerable.
Is my anger 'overblown'?
She has absolutely no idea.
Simon Gosden. Esq. #fbpe 3.5% 🇪🇺🐟🇬🇧🏴☠️🦠💙@g_gosden
“I thought a lot of the stuff around Partygate… was overblown” Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch says Boris Johnson was a “great PM”. Well, well, well
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I don’t want the neighbourhood health service that @wesstreeting is offering, because it is bound to be biased to wealthy areas. I want a National Health Service.
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@manfuego007 I’m not sure what he wants more. To be naked or eat my offerings.
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Now signed by more than 50 MPs
If your MP hasn't signed, ask them to add their name ✍️
Andrew Fisher@FisherAndrew79
Well done @RichardBurgon for tabling this motion calling for sanctions on Israel to push it to comply with international law. Backed by a broad coalition of 45 MPs from 7 different parties. edm.parliament.uk/early-day-moti…
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Meet Jack Callis, a guy who yesterday decided, after his team won a football game, to beat up random other teams football fans for no reason.
He's now lost his jobs, probably girlfriend, his 2A rights, and his freedom, all because he got drunk and decided, key word decided to assault random guys. (He's looking at felony assault, among other charges, up to 8 years in the federal prison.)
FearBuck@FearedBuck
Ravens fan was seen looking for random Commanders fans to beat up and ended up knocking someone out 😭 x.com/copiumx/status…
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