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Shiv Shankar

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Founder & CEO @boundless_xyz. Transforming the economics of intelligence. Prev: @AvaLabs @Coinbase @amazon. Views are my own.

Kirkland Katılım Aralık 2009
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Shiv Shankar@sshankar·
Definitely Day 1. There is an insane amount of work to do. Since baremetal compute is more like crude oil. Putting it into actual use is a massive operational lift. Not to mention availability SLA, networking guarantees and the energy prices that dictate a large part of final cost for consumer. x.com/sshankar/statu…
Shiv Shankar@sshankar

That’s right. Compute is the new oil. And @boundless_xyz will be drilling for more.. 🛢️ The fun thing is that legacy players have no idea of how to use cryptoeconomic instruments to smoothen these curves and capture this market. Financialization of compute.. is real.

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We are just beginning to scratch the surface of interesting applications of prediction market data —- starting with forward pricing on compute units for AI.
Tarek Mansour@mansourtarek_

Today, we launched GPU compute forward curves derived from our prediction market prices. Forward curves are now available on Nvidia B200. H200, and A100 chips. Forward curves track implied future prices. They are how mature commodity markets form expectations, allocate capital, and manage risk. Energy, interest rates/SOFR, FX, metals, and agricultural markets all rely on market-implied forward prices. Despite becoming one of the key inputs in the global economy, compute has lacked that market-derived infrastructure. Compute right now is where oil was before NYMEX — traded only via OTC deals, just like oil used to trade OTC between producers and refiners. As compute becomes as fundamental to the economy as energy, the industry will need a similar derivative market to promote efficient price discovery. Prediction markets are uniquely suited to this problem. Compute is not one uniform commodity and spans many chips, grades, tenors, locations, and contract structures. A live prediction market can aggregate those dispersed views into transparent prices that reflect market expectations for different maturities. The opportunity is big. Hyperscalers are spending over $700B on compute this year and the market is expected to grow to $7-10T by 2030. If this market behaves like traditional commodity markets, a liquid derivative market could be 10-20x bigger than the underlying spot market. Compute is still not uniform enough, but this is a step towards standardization as forward curves will help us see the rise and fall of different model prices and how they correlate. The forward curve is a first step. Up next: futures and perps.

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Shiv Shankar@sshankar·
@Cointelegraph Of which 90-95% is written by OS models.. Can't go that hard if you had to pay a king's ransom to the closed source frontier labs.
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Cointelegraph@Cointelegraph·
⚡️ EXCLUSIVE: Coinbase’s Head of Platform, Rob Witoff, says 95% to 100% of the company’s code is now written with the help of AI. Most engineers run five to ten AI agents at a time, collectively doing the coding work of about 1,200 employees. Read the full story: cointelegraph.com/news/over-95-o…
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Shiv Shankar@sshankar·
We are much more full stack in our approach.. we aren't traders or financiers. (Though I wear suits at conferences now) We might actually end up as users of @Architect_Fi and the rest to find (or help folks find) compute and make it actually work for AI needs. Our cryptographic approach to monetize idle time will make it much more profitable to run these machines and give consumers amazing ability to find the compute they need.. when they need it. Also - to be very honest.. no one is ahead, since no one knows for sure where this is all headed. The teams that keep their ears to the ground and have incredibly flexibility are the ones that will 'make it'.
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Nahoc@_nahoc·
@boundless_xyz @sshankar when you have the biggest decentralized GPU market in the world, supporting AI workloads is a no-brainer
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Boundless@boundless_xyz·
Boundless set out to build a zero-knowledge proving network. We ended up building something bigger: a global network that coordinates GPU capacity at scale. Today, we’re expanding into AI. @sshankar on what’s next:
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Shiv Shankar@sshankar·
That’s right. Compute is the new oil. And @boundless_xyz will be drilling for more.. 🛢️ The fun thing is that legacy players have no idea of how to use cryptoeconomic instruments to smoothen these curves and capture this market. Financialization of compute.. is real.
Tarek Mansour@mansourtarek_

Today, we launched GPU compute forward curves derived from our prediction market prices. Forward curves are now available on Nvidia B200. H200, and A100 chips. Forward curves track implied future prices. They are how mature commodity markets form expectations, allocate capital, and manage risk. Energy, interest rates/SOFR, FX, metals, and agricultural markets all rely on market-implied forward prices. Despite becoming one of the key inputs in the global economy, compute has lacked that market-derived infrastructure. Compute right now is where oil was before NYMEX — traded only via OTC deals, just like oil used to trade OTC between producers and refiners. As compute becomes as fundamental to the economy as energy, the industry will need a similar derivative market to promote efficient price discovery. Prediction markets are uniquely suited to this problem. Compute is not one uniform commodity and spans many chips, grades, tenors, locations, and contract structures. A live prediction market can aggregate those dispersed views into transparent prices that reflect market expectations for different maturities. The opportunity is big. Hyperscalers are spending over $700B on compute this year and the market is expected to grow to $7-10T by 2030. If this market behaves like traditional commodity markets, a liquid derivative market could be 10-20x bigger than the underlying spot market. Compute is still not uniform enough, but this is a step towards standardization as forward curves will help us see the rise and fall of different model prices and how they correlate. The forward curve is a first step. Up next: futures and perps.

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Shiv Shankar@sshankar·
@markgurman There is zero chance that I will be buying something like this. And I worked at Alexa @amazon … the privacy implications are mind boggling
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Mark Gurman@markgurman·
NEW: OpenAI’s first product is a mobile, screen-free home smart speaker that a user can build a connection with like an AI companion. Amid Apple’s trade secret lawsuit, the iPhone maker has nothing like it on the market. bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
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Atoms Not Bits@AtomsNotBits·
America is attempting a $100 trillion industrial buildout. The financial infrastructure to support it does not exist yet. @Melt_Dem, GP at @CrucibleCap, explains why new commodity markets, credit markets, and derivatives are the missing layer of American reindustrialization, and how they let hard tech founders hedge risk at scale. She also names the two commodity markets she wants built in America: ocean freight and space payload.
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Shiv Shankar@sshankar·
@DanSimerman Whilst not a full pivot - the opportunity size is too great to ignore.. and the skill/product fit is crazy strong. I always saw Boundless offering compute for heterogeneous workloads in a few years. AI showed up earlier than I could have imagined. 🫡
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Shiv Shankar@sshankar·
@zktrivo Whilst not a pivot - this is an extension of our network's capabilities - crypto has been building these skills for a while now. We are in good company! :D
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Florian🪶 (httpz)@zktrivo·
@sshankar pretty good pivot, compute and everything around it is the new hot thing, kinda reminds me of the first time I’ve heard of bitcoin miners!
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