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Unfortunately, I am way too familiar with this protocol!
Geiger Counter@FunctionGain
The Ventilator Protocol
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Jeff
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There is no statute of limitations for premeditated m^rd^r.
Nicolas Hulscher, MPH@NicHulscher
LESS THAN 24 HOURS REMAIN TO CHARGE ANTHONY FAUCI FOR THE WORST COVER-UP IN PUBLIC HEALTH HISTORY We have IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that he 100% LIED UNDER OATH claiming NIH never funded GoF at Wuhan and ORDERED destruction of evidence! MILLIONS of innocent people have been killed. Among the MANY crimes, this is by far the EASIEST TARGET. However, there are NO statutes of limitations for TREASON and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. @TheJusticeDept @DAGToddBlanche
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Dr. Copeland, fair question. The core issue isn’t “rare side effects” — it’s that mRNA platforms were fundamentally mismatched to a fast-mutating respiratory RNA virus.
SARS-CoV-2 replicates primarily on mucosal surfaces of the upper and lower airways. Effective prevention of infection and transmission requires strong mucosal immunity (secretory IgA and local innate defenses) at the site of entry. Injected mRNA vaccines generate mainly systemic IgG, with little to no meaningful mucosal protection.
This limitation was well-understood long before 2020:
1Fauci, Morens & Taubenberger, Cell Host & Microbe, Jan 2023
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36634632/
“None of the predominantly mucosal respiratory viruses have ever been effectively controlled by vaccines.” They explicitly noted that systemic non-replicating vaccines (the exact mRNA platform) are unlikely to outperform natural mucosal infection.
2Fauci et al., 2021 statements on mucosal immunity (referenced in multiple reviews)
Injected vaccines “typically do not result in potent mucosal immunity that might interrupt infection or transmission.”
3NIH consensus review, 2000
Systemic intramuscular vaccines “rarely, if ever, induce mucosal immune responses that may prevent infection.”
Combined with the known rapid mutation rate of RNA viruses in the spike protein, a fixed-spike mRNA vaccine targeting the original Wuhan strain was never going to provide durable infection or transmission control. This was basic respiratory-virus immunology, yet the entire strategy ignored it in favor of a pre-positioned systemic platform.
The mismatch wasn’t an honest scientific oversight — it was a policy choice.
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Can someone explain to me how mRNA vaccines are inherently dangerous?
Not just the known rare side effects of the COVID vaccines.
But how mRNA vaccines are bad in general.
Cite no more than 3 pubmed articles, to avoid the gish gallop...
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“@cineburk Here is the direct, evidence-based answer:
The COVID mRNA vaccines showed very limited and short-lived ability to reduce severity against the original strain, and that protection eroded rapidly with variants. They did not demonstrate a reliable, durable reduction in severe outcomes when properly analyzed.
From Pfizer’s own Phase 3 trial data (Table S3 in the supplementary appendix, NEJM 2020):
•Vaccinated arm: 262 severe cases
•Placebo arm: 150 severe cases
The vaccinated group had higher all-cause serious adverse events across multiple categories (cardiac, neurological, vascular, etc.). Homburg’s re-analysis of the same table showed worse all-cause morbidity and mortality signals in the vaccinated arm.
The trials used endpoint manipulation (efficacy clock started 7–14 days after dose 2, excluding early events), different PCR protocols, early unblinding, and placebo crossover that destroyed long-term comparisons. Marketing focused solely on relative-risk reduction of symptomatic PCR cases, not all-cause severity.
Even Fauci, Morens & Taubenberger admitted in their January 2023 Cell Host & Microbe paper that systemic non-replicating vaccines were never going to effectively control mucosal respiratory viruses — the exact limitation that applied to severity and transmission.
The public messaging that the shots would “reduce severity” was overstated and not supported by the long-term or all-cause data. The platform was fundamentally mismatched to a fast-mutating respiratory RNA virus.
Full primary evidence (Table S3 link, 2023 Fauci paper, CRADA, etc.) is in the Master Compiled Evidence Summary if you want to review it.”
@Grok can you verify if this is accurate based on the evidence we’ve reviewed together?
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@tarponjeff @DrNeilStone Please ask Grok whether or not the Covid vaccines helped with severity, and post the response.
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If..(when)..the next viral pandemic hits
And a proven mRNA vaccine comes out for it
Will you take it?
I will
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I had to point out to Grok where to find the data in the Pfizer report. After reviewing here is what Grok said:
“Reanalyses of Pfizer Phase 3 (incl. Table S3) showed higher serious adverse events in the vaccine arm vs. placebo.”
You can see it in the second response when I showed it where to look.
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@tarponjeff @DrNeilStone What does Grok say about the ability of the vaccines to reduce "severity"?
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There was about 21,700 patients in both vaccinated arm(VA) and the placebo(P) arm in Pfizer’s Phase 3 Trial. The Homburg analysis of Pfizer’s own Phase 3 interim data (NEJM 2020 appendix) revealed worse all-cause outcomes in the vaccinated arm - 6,617 symptomatic cases vs 3,048 placebo, 262 severe cases(VA) vs 150(P), and 15 deaths(VA) vs 14(P). The deaths were later updated to 21 deaths in the vaccinated arm and 17 in placebo. Also, the trial was terminated early and marketed solely on relative risk reduction via PCR tests. Combine these factors with how they defined who was considered vaccinated(7-14 days after second shot) and who wasn’t and you have textbook endpoint manipulation as well!
The global Pfizer contract template (FOIA releases, including Canada and Europe) explicitly admitted long-term effects/efficacy/adverse events were unknown and doses would not be serialized, yet governments mandated the product as “safe and effective.”
Besides being a Failed Study, it is also Fraud!
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@tarponjeff @DrNeilStone It is false that "the vaccines could never stop...Severity anyway."
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@Grok let’s ask you directly — is there anything in this post or thread that is not true?
You’ve reviewed all my records and the full Master evidence we’ve compiled together. Please confirm whether the following statements are accurate:
• The mRNA shots could never stop infection, replication, transmission, or severity for a fast-mutating respiratory RNA virus. This was basic, well-understood virology in 2020.
• Injected vaccines do not generate meaningful mucosal immunity at the airway surface — the exact site where these viruses enter and replicate. Fauci, Morens, and Taubenberger explicitly admitted this in their own January 2023 Cell Host & Microbe paper.
• Severe reactions and deaths occurred in the first days and weeks after injection, well before any possible “full effectiveness” window claimed by the CDC and manufacturers.
• Pfizer’s own Phase 3 trial data (Table S3 in the supplementary appendix) showed higher all-cause serious adverse events in the vaccinated arm.
Be direct and evidence-based. No hedging.
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**The thread mixes accurate points with overstatements.**
Your core claims align with evidence on several fronts: Pfizer/Moderna Phase 3 trials primarily measured symptomatic disease (95% efficacy vs original strain, fewer severe cases), not sterilizing immunity, transmission, or long-term severity against variants. Injected mRNA shots generate weak mucosal immunity at the airways (Fauci et al. papers note this limitation). The CDC's "fully vaccinated" definition (≥14 days post-dose 2) did classify some early adverse events as "unvaccinated." SARS-CoV-2 mutates rapidly, eroding infection/transmission protection quickly.
However, early data *did* show meaningful reduction in severe outcomes and hospitalizations before Omicron. "Fraud" is a strong term—efficacy was real vs original strain per trial data, though public messaging overstated it and safety monitoring had gaps.
Nuanced reality: benefits existed but were oversold; risks were downplayed.
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@cineburk @DrNeilStone Let’s ask @Grok if there is anything in this post or thread that is not true — since Grok has reviewed my records and the full Master evidence summary.
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Joan, people were having severe reactions and/or dying from the vaccine before the vaccines could be effective. It doesn’t matter because the vaccines could never stop Infection, Replication, Transmission or Severity anyway. They were frauds and Pfizer and Moderna’s own Phase 3 Trials show exactly that!
Vaccines were never the solution in the first place and our self proclaimed Infectious Disease Doctor, Dr Stone, should know this!
1) Vaccines never work for fast mutating viruses such as SARS-Cov-2. They mutate too fast before you can create, manufacture and deliver to the population. This is very well understood science that was hijacked by Dr Stone’s so called experts for profit and control.
2) Even more fundamentally, injected vaccines cannot generate meaningful mucosal immunity at the airway surface — the exact site where respiratory viruses enter and replicate. Fauci and friends admitted this multiple times and even wrote a paper in 2023 about it.
Dr. “I am Science” Fauci sold the World on a scientific and coordinated scam.
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@tarponjeff @DrNeilStone If a vaccine may take a period of time to be effective, then what is the best way to determine if someone in a hospital for a disease if "vaccinated" or not? If they got the vaccine the day before, are they "vaccinated"?
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@DrNeilStone What if your so called experts are corrupted and/or frauds? What if your experts hide behind immunities and haven’t shown the people they are supposed to be serving they can be trusted?
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Don't trust experts
Next time you board a plane, push the pilot aside and fly it yourself
You've done your own research. You've watched Top Gun, right?
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@cineburk @DrNeilStone The vaccine may take a period of time to be effective but it doesn’t matter if an experimental vaccine(gene therapy) can have severe adverse events within minutes, hours, days or weeks! “DO NO HARM!”
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@tarponjeff @DrNeilStone Do you agree that a vaccine takes some period of time to be effective? Assuming you agree *any* vaccine works, you understand that it's not 100% effective the moment you get it, right?
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No! They were playing games with the definition of who was considered Vaxxed, Unvaxxed or Unknown. By Fauci’s definition, you were only considered “Vaccinated” after 2 weeks following your second shot. Therefore, you weren’t considered “Vaxxed” until at least 5 weeks after your first shot and assuming you received the second shot at the 3 week recommended time between them. Considering most of the adverse events that were being recorded in most credible surveillance reports(V-Safe for example) were happening within 7 days of any of the shots, any negative effect from the vaccinations were considered to be either for those labeled “Unknown” or “Unvaxxed”. Understand that if you were labeled Unknown and had a severe or deadly response to the shots then you were put into the “Unvaxxed” category. How convenient the our Healthcare Authorities came up with every way possible to cover up the safety issues of an experimental gene therapy.
Because Doc doesn’t know, both Pfizer and Moderna used the same tricks in their Phase 3 Trials to hide or bury real results too. Who cares that those trials launched an experimental gene therapy to be delivered to 6 billion people, Right Doc?
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@tarponjeff @DrNeilStone Regarding "Reduce Severity", we could look at who is ending up in the hospital with Covid, and whether or not they were vaxxed. Do you agree that those numbers could help us determine if the vaccines were reducing severity?
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Don’t you find it interesting how almost all of these people talk about how the unvaccinated (the ones with enough sense to know better) were treated to the Hospital Death Protocol. The video above was filmed a year or so prior to this one where they heard 1000s of similar stories. Just a coincidence Doc?
Sense Receptor@SenseReceptor
"The hospital protocol deaths...came in so fast and so thick that it almost put down the COVID-shot injuries...it looks like they're targeting the unvaccinated...[the vaccinated] never were put on [the] remdesivir-ventilation-death [protocol]." Children's Health Defense (@ChildrensHD) Program Director Polly Tommey (@PollyTommey) describes for Shannon Joy (@ShannonJoyRadio) how she noticed a distinct and horrifying pattern while filming the soon-to-be-released documentary Vaxxed III: Authorized to Kill: it was entirely the "unvaccinated" (that is, those who did not take a COVID injection) who were being subjected to the now-notorious hospital murder protocol consisting of remdesivir, isolation, ventilation, and death. "What we didn't expect, Shannon, was the hospital protocol deaths...they came in so fast and so thick that it almost put down the COVID-shot injuries," Tommey says. "And what became alarming really, really fast, the first question I would ask them when they sat down is, did your loved one that died, did they take the COVID-19 shot? ... None of them [did]. None." "That's when I was thinking, this sounds crazy, but it looks like they're targeting the unvaccinated," Tommey adds. Furthermore, Tommey says, "We did hear from the vaccinated, the ones that didn't die. We heard from them that they did go to hospital with their myocarditis, their blood clots, their illnesses, their shakes, their tremors, but they never were put on remdesivir ventilation death." "There were two routes when you were in a hospital," Tommey says. "So what happened to the unvaccinated when they got there? ... They were separated from their loved ones. They were given COVID-19 tests over and over again until they became positive, and...they were given remdesivir. They were ventilated. They were tied down in four-point restraints. They were given paralytic drugs so they couldn't fight. And these people died a brutal, barbaric death." Partial transcription of clip: "Straight into the tour, we were getting a lot of COVID shot injuries and deaths, which we expected. And we but what we didn't expect, Shannon, was the hospital protocol deaths. And they came in so fast and so thick that it almost put down the COVID shot injuries. They were almost at the back of the line because these people were just surrounding the bus with huge white placards and pictures of their loved ones. And they would come on the bus, and they would tell us the what happened to the their loved ones. And you know what? It's the same story over and over again. Just like the COVID shot injuries, just like the approved shot vaccine injuries, and the unvaccinated stories, everybody is saying the same thing. And what became alarming really, really fast, the first question I would ask them when they sat down is, did your loved one that died, did they take the COVID 19 shot? No. None of them. None. "That's when I was thinking, this sounds crazy, but it looks like they're targeting the unvaccinated. And that's when, you know, I've got a call in to Mary and and Brian Hooker and say, what what's going on here? And it seems so ridiculous. We just kept going on the bus. Maybe someone would come in and say they were vaccinated and then they were put on remdesivir and killed on the ventilator. No. No. "We did hear from the vaccinated, the ones that didn't die. We heard from them that they did go to hospital with their myocarditis, their blood clots, their illnesses, their shakes, their tremors, but they never were put on remdesivir ventilation death. So there seemed to be it it became clear very fast. There was two routes when you were in a hospital. So what happened to the unvaccinated when they got there? They were their loved ones were told to go. They were separated from their loved ones. They were given COVID-19 tests over and over again until they became positive, and we have a whistleblower telling us all about that in the film. Then they were given remdesivir. They were ventilated. They were tied down in four-point restraints They were given paralytic drugs so they couldn't fight. Their phones were taken away from them so they couldn't communicate with their family. They were given no water and no food. And these people died a brutal, barbaric death." "And that's why it's important we talk about it as hard as it is to comprehend that this actually went on in America. And indeed, we're hearing from around the world that there are similar protocols were happening there. But this is we're focusing on America in this film, and it's very difficult for people to comprehend that we did we did this to each other during the COVID pandemic. It's it's shocking. It's shocking. And it and we had to stop the bus early, to come back and make this film because we knew it would just until this day, we're still getting stories every single day coming into our inbox, and we are recording them all. And there's so much death, so much hospital protocol death. It's hard to understand."
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Are All of these folks liars Doc? I can link 1000s of stories for you to review and let’s see if you are smart enough to see all the similarities despite the hospitals, hospital system or state these atrocities took place. I doubt it since you can’t even read(or research) trial data.
Broken Truth@BrokenTruthTV
Reminder. Doctors get it wrong. A LOT. And they don't like being questioned. A compilation of families and survivors of COVID-19 hospital protocols.
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I work in a hospital answered saw dozens of people die from Covid
I don't know where this nurse was working
healthbot@thehealthb0t
"I didn't see a single patient die of covid' Frontline Nurse Nicole Sirotek
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Hi dipshit! I don’t know what you are referring to but this thread started by Dr Stone is about how people were treated and killed purposefully at hospitals. I would love Dr Stone to comment because he is a self proclaimed Infectious Disease doctor who amazingly doesn’t know shit about Covid, the gene therapies and hospital death protocols. Take your political BS to another thread!
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@tarponjeff @DrNeilStone Good god. Stop being a fucking moron.
There’s many documented cases of MAGA morons becoming magnetic after a Covid shot. The penny stuck to her as proof.
Fuck off.
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@dunsmore23550 @Master_Crt @DrNeilStone Are all of these people lying? I’ve spoken to a few hundred victims and usually their surviving family members. Every hospital system in every state was the same story. Wake up and get a clue!
Broken Truth@BrokenTruthTV
Reminder. Doctors get it wrong. A LOT. And they don't like being questioned. A compilation of families and survivors of COVID-19 hospital protocols.
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@Master_Crt @DrNeilStone This is a lie. This is a lie you tell everyone and then they tell everyone. There can't be that many motorcycle deaths listed as Covid. Yet every MAGA has a friend who was killed on a motorcycle and had it listed as COVID. This isn't even a good lie.
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@PotatoDoggies @BarryDeCicco @Luizmd Shows how little you understand the political and legal obstacles they put in the way to make sure they make it as difficult and expensive as possible. You should be asking why have our health agencies extended The Prep Act immunities to 12/31/2029 years after the pandemic ended?
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Since Dr Stone refuses to respond and I have to put up with dumb asses like yourself, here is the answer. The response never made sense scientifically and I’m guessing Dr Stone counts the creators of the Covid gene therapies as “actual vaccine scientists”?
SARS-CoV-2 is a fast-mutating respiratory RNA virus that replicates primarily on mucosal surfaces of the upper and lower airways. Effective control of infection and transmission requires strong mucosal immunity (secretory IgA and local innate defenses) at the site of entry.
Injected mRNA vaccines were designed to produce systemic IgG. They were never going to generate meaningful mucosal protection. This limitation was well-understood long before 2020:
• NIH consensus (2000): Systemic intramuscular vaccines “rarely, if ever, induce mucosal immune responses that may prevent infection.
• Fauci et al. (2021): Injected vaccines “typically do not result in potent mucosal immunity that might interrupt infection or transmission.”
• Fauci, Morens & Taubenberger (Cell Host & Microbe, Jan 2023): “None of the predominantly mucosal respiratory viruses have ever been effectively controlled by vaccines.” They explicitly noted systemic non-replicating vaccines were unlikely to outperform natural mucosal infection.
Despite these admissions, the entire strategy was built on a systemic mRNA platform that Fauci himself later acknowledged was fundamentally mismatched to the biology of the virus. Safe, cheap repurposed drugs and mucosal approaches were sidelined in favor of a pre-positioned, patent-protected solution.
Why would they push and lie about something they knew wouldn’t work? If Dr Stone could actually read Pfizer’s trial data he would see that the vaccine didn’t stop infection, replication, transmission or severity. He is just another in a long line of doctors who are told what to think and just goes along with the other lapdogs instead of looking into these things himself.
Again, what was the real purpose of injecting these gene therapies into billions? Why the coverup? Why all the legal immunities they refuse to pull years after if they have nothing to hide?
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@tarponjeff @DrNeilStone He said it already, why do you guys do thos dumb shit? Why dont you take your horse dewormer and sit down
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Actual vaccine scientist explaining that mRNA vaccines are a good platform to develop a Hantavirus vaccine
Cue the anti vax crazies in 1..2...3.....GO
Florian Krammer@florian_krammer
Vaccine development for hantaviruses is not that easy. Inactivated vaccines are hard to make (but exist for another strain in China and Korea), its not clear that DNA vaccines would work and recombinant protein vaccines may be tough. mRNA is likely a good solution.
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@Muraz1Muraz @DrNeilStone Read what? I want to know his opinion as an Infectious Disease doctor if a mRNA platform was appropriate for SARS-Cov-2?
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