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HIP-4 research update. Correcting an assumption on the EVM contracts, new findings on multi-outcome mechanics, and next steps. We got something wrong. In our earlier analysis, we assumed the parimutuel contracts on HyperEVM (V1: 0x4fd7...44bd, V2: 0x6d86...cf07) were deployed by the Hyperliquid team. We had reasons to believe this: The deployer wallet (0xe21c...d135) is over 2 years old with 19K+ transactions. The contracts were flagged as genesis deployments, but we've since learned that any contract on HyperEVM gets flagged this way. The timing correlated perfectly with the HIP-4 testnet launch, and the contracts are still actively used today with continuous contest creation, deposits, settlements, and fee withdrawals. But after tracing the funding chain, the wallet that funded the deployer appears to be Block Theory Cap, an early HL user/fund, not the Hyperliquid team. No team members received genesis distributions. This is still a theory, not confirmed, but it changes the picture significantly. If true, it means: The official HIP-4 system is 100% HyperCore L1. Creation via registerTokensAndStandaloneOutcome, native pair minting (YES + NO = 1.00), settlement via VoteGlobalAction. No EVM involved at any step. The EVM parimutuel contracts are an independent project piggybacking on the same market data. Someone saw HIP-4 launch and immediately deployed their own parimutuel system on HyperEVM. Which is honestly impressive either way. It's a total mystery right now. The timing, the activity level, the sophistication of the contracts (V2 has full OpenZeppelin security stack). Whether it's the team testing under a separate identity, a fund building on top of HIP-4, or something else entirely, we don't know yet. Other findings from today: Multi-outcome markets (food market with Akami, Canned Tuna, Otoro) work as independent YES/NO pairs on the CLOB. Posting an order on Akami doesn't affect Canned Tuna or Otoro at all. Each outcome is its own isolated orderbook with native pair minting. How the losing sides' collateral gets redistributed across multiple outcomes at settlement is still an open question we're investigating. For off-chain data (who won the race, what did Hypurr eat), @androolloyd pointed out that HIP-3's data feed model could serve as a base for pushing custom resolution data to HyperCore. The infrastructure exists. For subjective events it's obviously more complex than price feeds, but the mechanism is there. What's next: We keep digging. @EnigmaValidator is joining the investigation and will help trace prediction market deployments on HyperCore, specifically multi-outcome creation transactions and the upcoming HIP-4 endpoints. The game is far from over. We've been at this for 3 days straight and every layer we peel back reveals another question. Stay tuned. @androolloyd @0xExoMonk @EnigmaValidator

@3xpl0it_ @tradexyz @Dreamcash also doing taker only with restrictive parameter (only opening when the gap is really interesting) and it's doing good for now

@totofdn @tradexyz @Dreamcash I have a vibe coded sloppy bot. it’s taker - taker and I’ve metagamed how to take advantage of it and can’t figure it out yeah sure you can predict a twap but you’ve to be offside to get filled from it

You can farm every HIP-3 dex on Hyperliquid for 0$ in fees, and even being paid to How ? by just arbing price on the same ticker between different dex For example, today you could have open a $NVDA long on @tradexyz 7bps lower than your short on @Dreamcash Then close your position 3 hours later, when your short was 3 bps lower than your long (we open when long side is lower, then we close when short side is lower) With growth mode there are around 3 bps in fees for open + close So thats a solid 7 bps profit in 3 hours + free volume on xyz + dreamcash And of course this can be easily automated to monitor every pair on every dex

@neverliquidated @tradexyz @Dreamcash yea but doesn't really matter since you're in profit + doing xyz volume

@totofdn @tradexyz @Dreamcash true but dreamcash only rewards you if you pay their shit fees

@3xpl0it_ @tradexyz @Dreamcash I know people will vibe code sloppy bots from that so it create more opportunities

@totofdn @tradexyz @Dreamcash man please why are you posting this do you not like money please stop

@zerqfer @Polymarket ngmi

@totofdn @Polymarket I'm too lazy to do all this.

If you want to earn free money on @Polymarket, just set up bots on market resolutions: > Go to the "Ending soon" sections on Polymarket > Take a random market that has 0 volume > Read the rules and grab the site that serve as resolving source > Vibe code a scraping bot that market buy the winning side once resolving data are out Example: I took this market with no volume Here you just need to set up a scraping bot on "melon" website, and once they publish the chart you buy the whole orderbook on the winning side You take 0 risk because you buy after the data are published With AI, it would takes less than an hour to set up this, and then you can reuse it for every market that has the same resolution source Once you've done some gains compound them, use the money to buy more proxies/servers, it will help you cover more markets and earn even more There are tons of new markets every day, and not all of them are botted, most bots are only focused on markets with deep liquidity, they don't care of low volume, so that's where you can make money

btw a single wallet got 40% of the airdrop, crime is criming

Stable just did their TGE, you can claim your airdrop on @merkl_xyz if you aped the pre-deposit as written in my guide you got a nice 50-100% apr on your stable (depending on when we get our deposit back) While I was expecting more (only 2.5% airdrop), the apr is not bad considering current market conditions Regarding other farms I shilled: > AAVE on @inkonchain is still printing, I rotated from USDG to USDC, and current APR is around 30% paid in $INK (on a low risk aave exposure) > Extended is printing as well, I wrote a guide to farm points for free few days ago > USDAI reduced multipliers for Pendle so I fully exited, not worth to farm anymore > MegaETH is not live yet and USDm campaign has been cancelled

@BetQuant @Polymarket yep thats highly illiquid

@totofdn @Polymarket I didn't know it worked that way. So you don't need a lot of money to move the market?

There's a new @Polymarket bet that might get crimed soon Poly recently added a market that let you gamble on whether Kabuto 1st edition will reach 100$ by the end of the month Resolution source for this market is TCGPlayer website, which is a marketplace for Pokemon cards When looking at rules, we can clearly see that the daily price of the card need to be above 100$ for the market to resolve to YES It becomes really interesting when we discover how this "Daily price" is calculated: It is only based on the sales price for that day, and it look like it's simply the average price Now just look at the chart, today volume is only 27 sales, which mean that only 3-4k$ would be required to fake some sells above 100$ and move the average price to +100$ Current top YES holder has 47k shares bought at 31c He could earn 30k$ from this bet by just spending few k$ into criming the chart on tgcplayer He might even loose 0$ on the buys if he make an arrangement with the seller

@probaaron @Polymarket 100%, it's just an arb between cost to crime and return from poly

@totofdn @Polymarket if the derivative of a market becomes bigger than the market, the risk of "getting crimed" is high

@zerqfer @Polymarket Bet YES

@totofdn @Polymarket Bet NO at 43¢ for 133% yield

@slankoiv @Polymarket 100%, there's no way this don't reach 100$

@totofdn @Polymarket Honestly, I think it’s one of the safest 35% profit bets you can make right now. KabutoKing also tweeted about this website many times so he is sweeping all the available cards there as well which might help to push the price

@96OnChain @extendedapp around 400 per weekend

@totofdn @extendedapp How many points does this net you?

During weekend you can do millions in volume on @extendedapp for 0$ in fees How ? By settings limit orders on EUR/USD pairs, and let people washtrade on your limit order If you didn't know, Forex is closed during the weekend, and so most perp dex set their forex pairs as "reduce only" from Friday evening to Sunday evening But Extended don't do that, they let the market open on their EUR/USD pair, and you can freely open new positions Because the price is not supposed to move, some ppl set huge limit orders just around the forex closing price Lots of farmers who just want to get easy points use these limit orders to washtrade, for example here they buy at 1.16021 and sell at 1.16020 seconds later to farm volume Because limit order have 0 fees on Extended, you can just give washtraders liquidity by setting a long and a short limit order around the closing price, and let them washtrade on these Ofc this only work during the weekend, as the price don't move From what I saw daily volume is around 10m on the pair during weekend, so you can do tons of volume there

@EfesumCrypto Gg for the win !

Had an absolute field day yesterday with the Makina markets. Managed to play them pretty well, especially buying YES 2M after the sale ended as people were trying to dispute. This happened because some whales withdrew after the sale ended making the contract hold less than 2M, but the rules clearly stated amount at the sale end time was considered. Shoutout to @totofdn and @Arkgetsu for the great analysis and commentary on these markets. Highly recommend you follow them.

@nevabluff it is supposed to be based on usdc commit on the contract, not legion announcement

@totofdn The final result might based on the final post from Legion x.com/legiondotcc/st…

The 800k guy just canceled his bid, now the sale TVL sits at 1.5m, but the 2m market is still in review for a YES resolve He still hold around 120k shares of YES Absolute cinema