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UltraShyGuy

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THIS IS MY SPAM ACCOUNT! I'm the most Shy Guy you'll ever meet.

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Henrik
Henrik@Henrik_on_HL·
Hyperliquid has: 1) the highest 24H volume 2) the highest 7D volume 3) the highest OI among all Perps DEXs without any official points season. Hyperliquid
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ProMint
ProMint@ProMint_X·
Hyperliquid officially called Lighter a Direct Competitor In their latest post they literally grouped “Binance, Lighter, Aster” together as venues where a central sequencer is the only party that can see the full internal state in real time. That’s why this is a competitor call-out: Hyperliquid is drawing a hard line of “we’re fully onchain + validator-run” vs “they’re sequencer-run”, and they’re putting Lighter in the same sentence as the biggest perps venues. And yeah, it’s a straight rivalry setup: > Hyperliquid pushing the “everything onchain, 24 validators, no hidden state” narrative > Lighter pushing “verifiable execution” and proof-based rails for a CLOB-style venue (so you can audit what happened, not just trust it) Lighter vs Hyperliquid rivalry hits peak in 2026 - who wins?
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Hyperliquid@HyperliquidX

Hyperliquid is built on a foundation of onchain transparency. A recent article made several claims that are factually incorrect: + Solvency: Every dollar is accounted for; the author failed to count native HyperEVM USDC. + Integrity: Testnet functions are exactly that - testnet only for testing. They cannot be executed on mainnet. + Transparency: Hyperliquid is more transparent and decentralized than all other major venues for perps trading. The entire state is independently maintained by a permissionless validator set and verified through BFT proof-of-stake consensus by each node. Every order, trade, and liquidation is available in real time during execution. Anyone can run a node and index the chain’s state and transitions. No major perps platform comes close to this guarantee for users. See our response to the writer’s individual points below. Claim: The system is undercollateralized by $362M False: The Hyperliquid blockchain state is fully and verifiably solvent. The author excluded the HyperEVM USDC (a publicly announced and much anticipated integration), which exists in parallel to the Arbitrum bridge. Every USDC in circulation on HyperCore is accounted for transparently, by summing up the balances of arbiscan.io/address/0x2df1… and hyperevmscan.io/address/0x6b9e…. At the time of writing, this amounts to 3.989B + 362M = 4.351B USDC on HyperCore. USDC on the HyperEVM can be computed by subtracting 362M from the 421M on the HyperEVM USDC contract (hyperevmscan.io/token/0xb88339…), totaling another 59M USDC on HyperEVM. The sum of the Arbitrum bridge and native USDC balances can be compared against the sum of user balances on HyperCore. As highlighted in the introduction, this exercise of verifying complete system solvency against user balances is uniquely possible on Hyperliquid compared to competitors. The current Arbitrum bridge was an important stepping stone in bootstrapping the Hyperliquid network and will be deprecated as the migration to native USDC is complete, bringing Hyperliquid to parity with other major L1s. Claim: There is retroactive volume manipulation via TestnetSetYesterdayUserVlm False: This is a testnet-only function to allow for comprehensive testing. The author states that “the function’s presence is the problem…capability alone violates the trust model.” Testnet-only features that enable more rigorous testing of edge cases do not undermine the chain’s integrity. The fee schedule on Hyperliquid interacts in a complex way with inputs: user volume, aligned quote token status, maker vs taker, HIP-3, etc. It’s important to test these interactions on testnet, and therefore the testnet chain has a set of admin testing functions that do not exist on mainnet. The related TestnetAddMainnetUser action is to mark a testnet user as having corresponding mainnet state, to avoid DDOS and other attacks that are “free” on testnet. None of these functions are callable on the mainnet state. While the execution source is not available, anyone can verify every trade onchain by running a node, and sum up the values to confirm that volume numbers are reflected accurately in onchain state. Similar to onchain solvency verification against the sum of all user account values, this is possible on Hyperliquid but not on most competitive platforms. Given that this code path is entirely unreachable on mainnet, future development work will entirely compile out this testnet-only logic on mainnet nodes to avoid any possible misunderstanding or misinterpretation. Claim: Some users have special privileges such as fee exemptions or retroactive volume manipulation used to influence the airdrop False: Like system solvency, user balances, and individual trades, the fees paid by any address is available onchain. Each trade along with its fees paid or rebates received are transparently indexed by nodes, API servers, and third party analytics providers. There are no such mechanisms to distort fees, and no such mechanisms could have influenced the HYPE airdrop. Furthermore, the genesis distribution of HYPE is fully available onchain, and users can verify the historical behavior of every such address. Claim: “CoreWriter” godmode can mint tokens, move user funds without signatures, crash random validators and basically do whatever it wants False: The CoreWriter spec is fully documented here hyperliquid.gitbook.io/hyperliquid-do… and replicable in the open source HyperEVM execution. CoreWriter is a way for smart contracts on HyperEVM to send HyperCore actions as part of HyperEVM block execution. It supports various actions that are normally sent by EOAs such as staking and placing orders, but has no such features to “mint tokens, move user funds without signatures, crash random validators and basically do whatever it wants.” This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how HyperCore interacts with the HyperEVM. Claim: Chain can freeze via governance, and no undo function exists Misinterpreted: The chain freezes during network upgrades. There is no undo function because the validators adopt a new binary at that height. This is analogous to how other networks perform hard forks at future heights determined by social consensus. Suspicious activity on POPCAT in Nov 2025 did not cause the L1 to freeze, nor were any user funds frozen. The L1 was entirely operational, and any observer can see the blocks that were produced during this time. The Arbitrum bridge was automatically locked after the incident due to abnormal variation in account balances. As explained above, the Arbitrum bridge is not as secure as natively minted USDC, and therefore requires several conservative automated locking mechanisms as safeguards. The Arbitrum bridge’s locking mechanism is audited and open sourced, and the bridge is being deprecated with the transition to native USDC. Claim: A single private key can set any oracle price instantly: no timelock, no limits Misinterpreted: The author is likely mistaking the HIP-3 oracle updater logic with the validator-operated perps. HIP-3 oracle updates are indeed set by a single address, but this is up to the deployer to configure. The updater address need not be an EOA. For example, current HIP-3 deployers use a combination of MPC and CoreWriter architecture. For validator-operated perps, multiple validators can submit oracle price updates. The final prices are a robust weighted median across major centralized exchanges. There is no timelock and no limits explicitly because these limits make the system less, not more, safe. The events of 10/10 show the danger to solvency if ADL is not accurately triggered in a timely manner during high volatility. Hyperliquid was one of the only venues without performance degradation or a network outage during this time. If Mango Markets or a similar protocol with oracle rate limits were active during 10/10, they would have likely accrued bad debt. Further decentralization will involve other validators actively running independent and open-sourced oracle update binaries. Claim: 8 undisclosed addresses control all transaction submission False: Some transactions are already sent directly from the validators. Some such as orders are not, in order to minimize MEV, but a future upgrade will incorporate this logic for all transactions in a mechanism that is both MEV- and censorship-resistant. The careful consideration of MEV is in response to trader and researcher feedback based on predatory behavior observed on other chains. There is almost unanimous agreement that toxic transaction ordering degrades the end user experience. Ultimately, the validator set is permissionless, and there is no guarantee that validators in the mainnet set are always fully aligned with the ecosystem. A major milestone in decentralization will be solving this problem, including a multiple-proposer block building setup. Claim: There is a liquidation cartel with unfair advantages Misinterpreted: Only HLP may backstop liquidate users, and HLP subvaults are the only addresses in this set. However, depositing into HLP is permissionless, so HLP is a community-owned liquidity vault supporting the protocol. The fact that HLP has privileges is no different from other protocol liquidity vaults. Relatedly, all liquidations are first attempted against the order book, which handles the vast majority of liquidated positions without backstop liquidation. This allows users to keep any remaining collateral, and allows all other users to compete in providing the best price to the liquidation flow, benefitting the liquidated user. Claim: There is a hidden lending protocol with $1M+ supplied and no documentation False: Portfolio margin, borrow lend, and the HLP supplied value were all publicly announced and are currently in pre-alpha rollout. The current documentation can be found at hyperliquid.gitbook.io/hyperliquid-do… and has been progressively fleshed out over the past several weeks. Claim: ModifyNonCirculatingSupply allows changes to token supply False: The full supply of HIP-1 tokens on HyperCore is fixed at deployment. The non-circulating supply is a purely informational number that can optionally mark addresses as “non-circulating” for display purposes. Whether an address is marked as “non-circulating” does not affect execution. This is an example of onchain information that might make more sense offchain, but is not a vulnerability. Thank you to the author for spending the time to verify the execution of Hyperliquid. The fact that this investigation could be done at all proves the transparency and decentralization that Hyperliquid has already achieved. Concretely, Hyperliquid is the only major perps venue where the entire state and every input diff is transparently available to anyone running a node. A similar analysis on any of the other top perp DEXs is impossible. For example, Lighter uses a single centralized sequencer whose execution logic and ZK circuits are unavailable. Aster uses centralized matching and even offers dark pool trading, which is only possible with a single centralized sequencer without verifiable execution. Other protocols with some open source contracts do not have a verifiable sequencer. On Binance, Lighter, Aster, or similar exchanges, it is impossible for anyone other than the sequencer to see a full snapshot of onchain state including order books, positions, and other user information. The centralized sequencer can also upgrade its software without any constraints. On Hyperliquid, the entire state is onchain, which means there are 24 validators executing the same state machine under BFT consensus rules. There is plenty left to do on the journey towards greater decentralization, but it’s important to highlight just how far Hyperliquid and its ecosystem have come compared to competitors. Decentralization is progressive, and Hyperliquid will ultimately be fully open sourced. Hyperliquid is the most transparent of all major venues, even though this leaks advantages to competitors (all of whom are closed source), who can copy Hyperliquid’s innovations more easily. We think this is the correct tradeoff to balance value accrual to the community, speed of innovation, and upholding the values of defi. The HyperEVM execution is open source, and Sprites, an independent community member, maintains a full archival node that powers many important integrations. HyperCore will follow the same path as soon as it reaches feature completion.

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UltraShyGuy
UltraShyGuy@ultrashyguy·
@SuperShyGuy @DustinTrade Hi there remember me. Just coming back to show you how wrong you were. And well... I won. Thanks for playing though. Good game
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Dustin T
Dustin T@Dustintrade·
With all due respect $1000 per point
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UltraShyGuy
UltraShyGuy@ultrashyguy·
@Cryptilt @fockgeorgieboy @defi_aggy @blknoiz06 Would rather bet on HYPE than touch that VC trash. Sorry buddy, keep dreaming, SOL will not hit $1000 and you can come back to this in a decade and this will still be true. Come on, call the remind me in...
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UltraShyGuy
UltraShyGuy@ultrashyguy·
@cburniske Nothing, it went to shit and meanwhile you are sidelined on Hyperliquid. Well done.
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Chris Burniske
Chris Burniske@cburniske·
$SOL has been consolidating for almost 18 months... I wonder what happens next
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UltraShyGuy
UltraShyGuy@ultrashyguy·
@Tradermayne Mamdani no scoping you currently. Your predictions about him were all wrong.
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James
James@JamesEastonUK·
$SOL looks absolutely insane here. The breakout will be violent. Not. Bullish. Enough.
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zipper
zipper@0xlykt·
Why do I think $LIT is underpriced on the premarket and will probably go up on TGE? Essentially, the premarket is too illiquid and does not have enough OI to support large positions. There is only $33 million in OI, and the current largest position is only $2.7 million notional. My base case is that most of the buy pressure will come from a small number of entities (mainly liquid funds and whales), who would be aiming to acquire positions in the 8 figure range. Since they cannot acquire a significant position on the premarket without becoming too much of the OI and moving the market, their only option is to buy on TGE. Therefore, a lot of the buy pressure is structurally excluded from the premarket.
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UltraShyGuy
UltraShyGuy@ultrashyguy·
@0xlykt I still remember when you piece of shit were shilling lighter lmao. You were completely wrong. My base case was right. We had discussion about it. I WON barely a 1.5B even today lmao.
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hansolar
hansolar@hansolar21·
The lighter fud has devolved into click-bait worse than stuff in sports tabloids As reality settles in, the energy required to sustain the cognitive dissonance only grows. For the well-centered, they know this is exactly the kind of setup that becomes a killer trade. Trust the tingle
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UltraShyGuy
UltraShyGuy@ultrashyguy·
@Sufficient_Lev I dont regret a bit. Thanks for the confirmation of the clownery lighter had as following
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Sufficient Leverage
Sufficient Leverage@Sufficient_Lev·
@SuperShyGuy0 Call him a clown one more time buddy you’ll regret it, And my founders tweets doesn’t stop the fact the product mogs Hyperliquid and the inevitable flipping
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Sufficient Leverage
Sufficient Leverage@Sufficient_Lev·
🫡 holding to 10-20B is the first target. I don’t wanna dunk on you I want you to take this trade and win with me sir. But will do, and fyi I’m giga bullish on both projects. I just think lighter is undervalued as fuck at 4B and hype at 28B , think both deserve 50B+ Cheers brother and Godspeed
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UltraShyGuy
UltraShyGuy@ultrashyguy·
@Sufficient_Lev @ProMint_X @bitcoinduke @chameleon_jeff @vnovakovski x.com/i/status/20185… Hello guys. All rekt. Especially @Sufficient_Lev sorry for your loss on that $1000 a point bet
UltraShyGuy@ultrashyguy

@SuperShyGuy @bookoperatorx @bitcoinduke @ProMint_X @Lighter_xyz Hey guys. Especially @ProMint_X who blocked me. Just here to tell you all that and anyone shilling lighter and dunking on Hyperliquid was extremely wrong. Thank you for tour service

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ProMint
ProMint@ProMint_X·
Lighter and Hyperliquid are escalating the rivalry and the truth is - both sides benefit from it. This is competition, it’s a fight, and it’s exactly the kind of pressure that pushes both projects forward, because the rivalry is real and almost evenly matched. They’re never going to stop this back-and-forth, because it works in their favor. Both communities stay active, engaged, loud - and the drama pulls new people in, forcing every newcomer to choose a side, choose a narrative, choose who they stand with. The jokes, the subtle shots, the debates, the breakdowns of each other’s flaws and the hype around each other’s strengths - all of this is healthy friction, and both ecosystems feed off it. Recently @vnovakovski took a clean hit at @chameleon_jeff from HL: no mobile app, Twitter run like LinkedIn, and the classic “good hiring doesn’t equal real presence” - a direct hint at Jeff. Both communities instantly lit up, launching a wave of activity on both sides. That’s the point. It boosts visibility, boosts engagement, boosts both platforms - and none of this is stopping anytime soon. So the real question is - which side are you on?
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ProMint@ProMint_X·
Lighter ETH 24h spot volume just hit $500m. Hyperliquid spot is currently sitting around $15m. Why is there such a big difference? I think it’s because Lighter spot is now being actively rolled out and tested in real conditions: a lot of big traders and whales are moving over to Lighter, maybe because of the Zero fees, while some are shouting that it’s all just for farming points. But whatever people say, the result is right in front of us - Lighter is handling huge volumes and there’s clearly strong interest in it. What happens when they expand spot further?
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ProMint@ProMint_X

Lighter ETH spot liquidity just hit $100m on first day For comparison, the same spot on HL is currently at $13m I know a lot of ppl will say it’s just hype, but I still think Lighter keeps the lead Zero fees do matter ?

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