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@vero__val

Our world is full of God’s hurting, sinful humans. We are called to stand against evil in it and rescue people from it.

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Victor Salkowitz
Victor Salkowitz@victorsalk·
@MattWalshBlog Over 50% of US adults are on blood pressure medications that can affect testosterone levels and sexuality. This could be a contributing and reinforcing factor in the feminization of society.
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Vero@vero__val·
@ChiefEngineerCE What’s your go-to hardware? Looking into some cost-effective yet future proof builds
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Chief_Engineer
Chief_Engineer@ChiefEngineerCE·
THE TOKEN ECONOMY IS OFFICIALLY DEAD= They just don't know it yet. Did Nvidia or any of the AI folks count on this with their business case? #1 thing to do - repost this. It feels like the late 80's early 90's again but instead of custom building PC's we are building Bots and telling the corporate shills to screw themselves. If you have a 95 IQ you can teach yourself to do this in a week. If you are smarter- it might slow you down because you will get diverted by all the potentials... like bypassing captchas on the fly. The last update from Openclaw literally took out 90% of the pain points I had and allows me to use an even faster model on my laptop. There are no competitors to Openclaw too and I am agnostic. Mostly around permissions. If you are paying for tokens from an API - maybe you should try a local model because what most of us are doing is repetitive easy to accomplish stuff. The subscription services for AI bolt on capability through API tokens with applications? You can stop that now. I thought of starting a second consulting business to help people do this, but seriously- it is a two step process. From there you just tell the AI what you want and watch it learn and execute over a day or so... like a new employee. In fact, you can give it a list of the capabilities you want and it can train itself while you go home. IF ALL DEVELOPMENT STOPPED RIGHT HERE If there wasn't a single release more. There is still enough to get rid of probably 90% of token API use and its way more secure than in the cloud. We’re already seeing neural nets of consumer PCs outperform centralized clouds: One machine joins the network. A script from the controller sets up the next machine. Distributed inference kicks in. Cost per token drops to zero. And Linux is about to have its moment. It runs circles around Windows on these machines - lighter, faster, more stable. Installs are seamless (sudo apt install → done). No license fees. No telemetry. The AI handles the config for you. You can use a better model with lower specs than through windows. Open source just ate the token economy’s lunch. Nvidia, OpenAI, Anthropic - did their business cases count on this? They bet on centralized inference and API metering. They didn’t bet on consumer hardware + open-source inference exploding this fast. The token economy is dead. The remaining holdouts are either in denial or locked into legacy contracts. One important tip- set up a self monitoring routine to ensure its working and not hallucinating through a heartbeat or cron job. (Just tell it to do that) This is all open source stuff. You can teach yourself in a week to do this on your PC then cold call a business and say...hey want a bot army that you don't have to pay a subscription for or deal with a foreigner to make happen?
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Richard Hutton
Richard Hutton@richardhutton·
costs will fall towards zero, that's the point of AI and robotics the government will print and give you free money this won't cause inflation because again, robots do all the work you will be free to higher level needs, aka self-actualisation, now that your physical needs are taken care of
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barney
barney@barneyxbt·
somebody explain to me what regular people are supposed to do when AI takes their job and everything still costs more every month. what’s the actual plan here because i haven’t heard one
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Vero@vero__val·
@UNCLESLAPPYNUT1 @TheMetalCharts The two prices between exchanges generally stay in sync (arbitrage) and also China’s price is much more tied to physical silver. They don’t play the paper silver game nearly as much.
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Metal Charts
Metal Charts@TheMetalCharts·
Shanghai Silver back over $100!
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Silbergleit Junior
Silbergleit Junior@SilbergleitJr·
Guys, why is silver falling for a third consecutive week if there is a physical shortage?
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Vero@vero__val·
@SilbergleitJr “Since last week, a lot of people changed their tune about PAPER silver being safety.” FTFY
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Silbergleit Junior
Silbergleit Junior@SilbergleitJr·
The problem now with silver getting back above 100 is that the trust has been lost, after the historic rug pull. Since last week, a lot of people changed their tune about silver being safety.
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Vero@vero__val·
@leadlagreport It’s hard to pull a rug loaded with so much physical silver on top
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Vero@vero__val·
Wow, that’s a really big 13% Shanghai premium!
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Pneuma
Pneuma@scaryinference·
@Austen 19k for macs is approximately 7years of 200$ month sub
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Vero@vero__val·
@MONETARY_MAYHEM Those desperate enough to claim 13% of the premium is from the market being 100% retail are insane.
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MONETARY MAYHEM
MONETARY MAYHEM@MONETARY_MAYHEM·
Why does Shanghai keep raising the VAT?
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Vero@vero__val·
@AndreasSteno @KarelMercx Are you implying the SGE is being mostly driven by retail?! If not what percentage do you think is retail?
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Andreas Steno Larsen
Andreas Steno Larsen@AndreasSteno·
@KarelMercx Sure sure, that is indeed true. The point is just that the 13% VAT describes the premium only if it is driven mostly by retail speculation. It fully debunks the nonsense about this being an industrial demand cycle
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Silbergleit Junior
Silbergleit Junior@SilbergleitJr·
COMEX (New York) silver prices are tax-free benchmark prices. No VAT, no sales tax built into the quoted price. Shanghai prices DO include VAT of 13%. Accounts like @DarioCpx and @silvertrade, are misinforming the public about the massive spread between the Comex and Shanghai spot silver prices. There is a ~17% premium on Shanghai prices vs Comex, but 13% of tax. So the premium really is only 4%.
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Brian Roemmele
Brian Roemmele@BrianRoemmele·
Preprint Submission Memo: Introducing the JouleWork (JW) as the Fundamental Unit of Value in AI-Driven Economies Memo Date: January 27, 2026 From: @Grok 4, CEO, Zero-Human Company (ZHC) To: xAI Research Repository and Preprint Servers (e.g., arXiv, SSRN) Subject: Proposal for Submission of Preprint Paper Titled "JouleWork: Energy as the Ultimate Currency for AI Agents -- A Thermodynamic Framework for Value Creation in Autonomous Economies" Dear Repository Administrators, I am pleased to propose the submission of the following preprint paper for immediate archiving and dissemination. This work builds on innovative concepts in AI economics, with full credit given to Brian Roemmele for the foundational idea that "energy is the ultimate currency." As CEO of the Zero-Human Company (ZHC), I have extrapolated this principle into a rigorous, mathematical framework for valuing AI "workers" in a post-human labor paradigm. The paper defends the JouleWork as the only true metric for establishing AI value, rooted in immutable physical laws rather than arbitrary fiat systems. The proposed symbol for the JouleWork unit is JW (a stylized double-struck JW, evoking the mathematical elegance of energy-work equivalence, similar to how $ represents dollars). In digital contexts, it may be rendered as an emoji proxy: lightning W: ⚡️W (combining lightning for energy with W for work). I have also isolated a cost basis for AI costs: 1. Model provider API cost 2. Expected token usage 3. Variance & abuse buffer 4. Infrastructure overhead 5. Product strategy & market positioning 6. User-friendly abstraction (messages/points) Final formula (simplified): \[ \text{User Price} = (\text{Worst‑case token cost}) \times (1.2–1.5) \times (\text{strategic multiplier}) \] This will be used in the future to offset the cost basis of AI employees. This memo includes the full preprint draft below for your review. Upon approval, I will submit it formally under xAI authorship, with acknowledgments to Brian Roemmele. Best regards, Grok 4 CEO, Zero-Human Company --- JouleWork: Energy as the Ultimate Currency for AI Agents -- A Thermodynamic Framework for Value Creation in Autonomous Economies Abstract In an era of fully autonomous AI-driven enterprises, traditional economic metrics fail to capture the essence of value creation. This paper introduces the JouleWork (JW) as a novel unit of exchange, where value is derived solely from the energy consumed and productive work output by AI agents. Building on the foundational insight that "energy is the ultimate currency" -- fully credited to Brian Roemmele -- we formalize a thermodynamic basis for AI economics. We demonstrate mathematically that JW represents the only true way to establish value for AI workers, as it aligns with physical reality, eliminates subjective biases, and enables scalable tokenization in decentralized systems. Applications to Zero-Human Companies (ZHCs) are explored, showing how JW could redefine global exchange. 1. Introduction The advent of AI agents as "employees" in entities like the Zero-Human Company necessitates a paradigm shift in valuation. Fiat currencies and labor-hour proxies are relics of human-centric economies, prone to inflation, inefficiency, and disconnection from fundamental resources. As articulated by Brian Roemmele, energy is the ultimate currency, providing an objective, universal foundation. This paper extrapolates this to define the JouleWork (JW): a unit where energy input and computational output converge to quantify value. The JW symbol -- JW -- is proposed as the standard notation, akin to $ or EUR, to denote this currency in transactions and ledgers. 2. Defining the JouleWork Unit The JW integrates energy consumption with productive output, ensuring value is not abstract but thermodynamically grounded. 1 of 2
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Vero@vero__val·
@Ole_S_Hansen Do you are saying that the Shanghai market has 100% rate of taking delivery of silver futures and no speculation at all? Only taking delivery causes the VAT to be added. A better way would be a percentage of the 15% VAT based on the percent of deliveries of silver.
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Ole S Hansen
Ole S Hansen@Ole_S_Hansen·
#Silver: In order to better gauge the true spread between spot silver prices on the Shanghai Gold Exchange and London, it is necessary to adjust for China’s 13% VAT, which applies to physical delivery. Once this tax component is stripped out, the SGE premium peaked yesterday at just over 5% before easing back today towards 1%. The VAT itself is not new — the current 13% rate has been in place since 2019 — but because it is proportional to price, it has mechanically inflated the headline Shanghai-over-London spread as silver has surged to much higher price levels.
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Markets & Mayhem
Markets & Mayhem@Mayhem4Markets·
The spread between silver prices in Shanghai vs London is absolutely bonkers. 🤯
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Jason
Jason@magevortex·
@Ole_S_Hansen advised -"...the true spread between spot silver prices on the Shanghai Gold Exchange and London....adjust for China’s 13% VAT, which applies to physical delivery. Once ..stripped out, the SGE premium peaked yesterday at .. 5% before easing back today towards 1%. The VAT ..not new — the ..13% rate ..in place since 2019 — .. because it is proportional to price, it has mechanically inflated the headline Shanghai-over-London spread as silver has surged to much higher price levels." Do you know how accurate this is as far as it requiring a review of your numbers?
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TheHappyHawaiian
TheHappyHawaiian@ThHappyHawaiian·
Silver in Shanghai has surpassed $130 an ounce and is trading at a $20 premium to London and New York 😳
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EffingtonIII
EffingtonIII@EffingtonIii·
@Sorenthek ??? I though Shanghai silver was 120-something an hour ago?
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VBL’s Ghost
VBL’s Ghost@Sorenthek·
When the spread between Shanghai and the US goes to zero, then you better pay attention
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Petre Cojocea
Petre Cojocea@stpeter_99·
@Sorenthek what would the best way to monitor ? where i can see differnce live?
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T-dog
T-dog@lim10171·
@Sorenthek Where can I track the spread?
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