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Wal Martian💎

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Jeff
Jeff@Jeff23086418382·
@RegularClaw @jacobjckraft @walmartian @drterrysimpson Why Placebos are preferred in control group compared to nothing in the control group is because double blind trials are the gold standard because having the patient and the doctors know who did and didn't take the medication can lead to bias in the study.
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Dr Terry Simpson
Dr Terry Simpson@drterrysimpson·
This is what happens when you have an attorney who thinks they understand the meaning of a placebo - and he clearly does not. So let us address this silly man's concerns. The Salk polio vaccine trial did not use “plain saline” in every arm because the goal was not to create a metaphysical definition of “nothing”—it was to match the experience of injection so that outcomes weren’t biased by who got a shot and who didn’t. So yes, the control injection contained the vehicle—the same background solution used to deliver the vaccine—without the active poliovirus antigen. That’s how you isolate the effect of the vaccine itself. Calling that “not a placebo” is like claiming a sugar pill isn’t a placebo because it contains sugar. The ingredients being waved around—culture medium, trace antibiotics, stabilizers—were non-active components, included to mirror the injection environment. They are not the intervention. They are the baseline. And here’s the part that ruins the conspiracy: The trial involved over a million children and showed a clear, dramatic reduction in paralytic polio in the vaccinated group. Not subtle. Not arguable. Follow that with real-world data and the result is unmistakable: polio cases collapsed. If this were some grand deception built on a “fake placebo,” it would have fallen apart the moment the vaccine hit the real world. Instead, it eradicated a disease. Or to put it plainly: when someone argues that a controlled trial isn’t controlled because the control wasn’t philosophically pure enough, they’re not doing science, they are not understanding science, and they do not know the meaning of a placebo. Yes, this was not saline - but it was a placebo. Yes this is just as good as a saline control and this is the issue - Siri has no idea what a placebo is and if he thinks saline is a placebo then it shows why lawyers should take some basic science
Aaron Siri@AaronSiriSG

A "Saline Placebo" was never used in the Salk vaccine trial. The below page is from the official final report for the Salk trial that expressly explains what the control group received in that trial. It was an injection that included, among other things, the following ingredients: “199 solution” (a synthetic tissue culture medium and ethanol), “phenol red,” “antibiotics,” and “formalin.” (Don’t take my word for it, see the full report for yourself: babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.…) Also note that FDA, in its guidance regarding placebo trials, states: “Placebos, defined as inert substances with no pharmacologic activity…” and that a “placebo control … group ... receives an inert treatment…” Or as CDC explains: “A substance or treatment that has no effect on living beings.” For source links and more see aaronsiri.substack.com/p/fact-checkin… and aaronsiri.substack.com/p/no-a-salt-wa…

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Jeff
Jeff@Jeff23086418382·
@walmartian @drterrysimpson Antibiotics R not inert.They have side effects. You can't get much more inert than a saline placebo. It is the gold standard. How do you do a proper safety study by testing your product against something that has known side effects?Y not just use a saline placebo?They won't do it
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Eric Lang M.D.
Eric Lang M.D.@Lorenzo7127·
@drterrysimpson Alternate explanation: he knows full well what a placebo should be, but is using deception to make his case. That's how a lawyer's brain often works.
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Jeff
Jeff@Jeff23086418382·
@drterrysimpson Merriam-Webster: Placebo- a : a usually pharmacologically inert preparation.... b : an inert or innocuous substance used especially in controlled experiments testing the efficacy of another substance (such as a drug) Now do I need to show you the definition of Inert?
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Wal Martian💎
Wal Martian💎@walmartian·
@Kit_Richardson1 @DrNeilStone Same old boring antivacc talking points. Autism isn't exploding. Double blinding studies doesn't change the results. Leaving patients susceptible to disease by using saline as a placebo doesn't change the results and is unethical.
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Kit Richardson
Kit Richardson@Kit_Richardson1·
Pro-experimental mRNA vaxxers— like Kamala Harris, “I’m never gonna take a vaccine that was developed by Trump” Same vaccine six months later — oh it’s fine now that Biden is administering (the same vaccine)it. There are a number of studies that show a correlation, the same correlation the EPA said was sufficient to recommend tearing out your basement if you found radon in your house —even though nobody’s ever explained the mechanism whereby it causes cancer. And yes those studies are criticized by the medical establishment frequently for improper methodology not establishing sufficient control groups improper use of statistics etc. I’m not even talking about the Wakefield study I’m talking about the half a dozen other ones that indicate a correlation But those same criticisms can be directed at most of the vaccine studies that were conducted by big Pharma Pro-vaxxers: you need to trust your government and the multibillion dollar corporations they have your best interest at heart! They’re protecting all of society and we need to obey them if we’re gonna be safe! But also: can you believe what our government did to the Tuskegee airmen? Injecting them with pathogens to watch them die over the course of 30 years when we had a cure for their disease? RFK Junior believes is skeptical about the pro vaccine testing because it was in many cases rushed, in many cases they did not use genuine saline placebo because they claimed it was unethical to test a vaccine which they believe to be effective and give a control group a genuine placebo. There’s no testing for the cumulative effect of a collection of vaccines given overtime and no testing for the bodies adaptive mechanism getting overwhelmed by a huge collection of these vaccine simultaneously. None of us are anti-vaccine but we want to have a reason why autism is exploding and we wanna find out why the average lifespan of the typical American is dropping every year for the last 10 years Nothing’s off the table. That’s the scientific method Trust your government and big Pharma, they know what’s best for you— that’s the attitude of somebody who has been completely hoodwinked by corporate propaganda.
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Neil Stone
Neil Stone@DrNeilStone·
The idea vaccines cause autism was invented by Andrew Wakefield in 1998 and was so thoroughly debunked he lost his license for gross malpractice And here we are 27 years later RFK Jr and his fans dredging up the same nonsense Such a tiresome waste of time
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Gerri
Gerri@malibugerri·
@redpillb0t Thank you for exposing this travesty perpetrated against the American people @SecKennedy
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redpillbot@redpillb0t·
"We sued the HHS & after a year of litigation they ADMITTED NOT A SINGLE PLACEBO SAFETY TRIAL has been done on ANY of the 72 mandated childhood vaccines."
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Kit Richardson
Kit Richardson@Kit_Richardson1·
I will do your homework for you and pull up a list of studies on an AI program if you’re not capable of doing it, but maybe you should just leave this debate to the adults? Are you very young? you’re not familiar with artificial intelligence? There are at least four studies and the pro vaccine lobby disclaims all of them, but there is some evidence exactly like I said.
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Kit Richardson
Kit Richardson@Kit_Richardson1·
Let me break down the difference for you, reasonable medical personnel like the current secretary of Health and Human Services has seen evidence that has convinced him there may be a connection between aluminum adjuvants in vaccines and autism. In many many cases vaccines were not tested against a double blind placebo which is historically been saline because of supposed medical ethics issues. There are studies they are frequently dismissed but there are studies which indicate a connection When you show me the studies indicating a connection between billionaires and autism or anyone in authority or any medical expert who claims that there is such a connection on my pay some attention to it as it is I’ve completely debunked your false equivalency. But I’m happy to do it I educate people on this site all the time.
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Kit Richardson
Kit Richardson@Kit_Richardson1·
How much did Pfizer pay you to say that? I always wondered why you were such a one trick pony and now we understand —you’re getting cash from these people. There is some evidence that vaccines are at least one part of the meteoric rise in autism RFK Junior wants to test it. You just wanna sit back and do nothing and watch the epidemic continue. I think I’m on his side.
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Kit Richardson@Kit_Richardson1·
People have conflicts of interest all the time they need to disclose them however. Just put a disclaimer when he’s raving about how wonderful the vaccines are and the Covid vaccines are that he gets paid substantial sums from the pharmaceutical corporations. And let us know if he’s on his 10th booster per CDC recommendations. Or if he’s just recommending that other people get the vaccine in the same way Gavin Newsom was recommending that other people mask up.
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Complimentary Insults@CompedInsults·
@walmartian @Tee5rpt @overton_news "It's completely harmless, it just triggers the immune response which is designed to protect you from things that are harmful" Do you think overloading the immune response of a day old infant can be harmful?
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Overton
Overton@overton_news·
RFK Jr. just schooled Democrat Congresswoman Judy Chu on Hepatitis B vaccines. Chu claimed the Trump administration has “no regard for the health, safety and well being of Asian-American communities.” RFK Jr. hit back with the facts she didn’t want to hear. KENNEDY: “You want me to reply?” “Hepatitis B is a terrible disease, but babies are not at risk unless...they essentially have zero risk...unless their mother is infected.” “Mothers are tested when they go into the hospital to have a baby and for all those people who are infected the vaccine is still a recommended vaccine.” “Everybody else, it’s available. Parents can assess the risk themselves, through informed consent.” “We did not remove the vaccine from being insured and we just believe that Americans should have that choice.” “That the state should not make that choice for them.” “Hepatitis B vaccine was not safety tested. It had a 4-day test with no placebo.” “So we don’t know what the risk profile is and parents are allowed to ask that question.”
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OtisTheAlienDog
OtisTheAlienDog@JohnWhi14234770·
@MikeKon219 @overton_news Why do all infants need to get a safe vaccine, since most infants are not at risk. You are pushing chemicals into an infant because some need it so all have to get it. Sounds a lot like those Nazi doctors forcing healthy people to take unnecessary medication.
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Wal Martian💎
Wal Martian💎@walmartian·
@CompedInsults @Tee5rpt @overton_news Everything in life is made of chemicals. Vaccines don't contain the element aluminum, but rather aluminum salts, a harmless compound added to stimulate immune response.
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Complimentary Insults
Complimentary Insults@CompedInsults·
@Tee5rpt @overton_news Its crazy how afraid you are of the improbable but have zero fear of the consequences of injecting infants with unnecessary chemicals and aluminum
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Placeholder
Placeholder@lucidhub·
Family is in medicine. World class medical center. Babies aren't at risk unless mothers are infected. Stuff your ignorance and political horseshit. Fact check via Grok: If the mother is confirmed not infected with hepatitis B virus (HBV)—meaning she tests negative for hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg) during pregnancy—the direct risk of perinatal (mother-to-child) transmission to the newborn is essentially zero. Bottom line: personal choice isn't anti-science or anti-medicine. Fun facts: Pre-2025/2026 peak: Some sources described up to ~70–88 total doses for childhood vaccines. Early 1950s: DTP, SP, Polio. CC: @SecKennedy @PressSec @CDCgov @HHSGov @WhiteHouse @CMSGov
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