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David Pearce

@webmasterdave

Let's use biotechnology to abolish suffering throughout the living world: https://t.co/XKNOcuG8IS https://t.co/PST6yjXDMu

Brighton UK Katılım Mart 2009
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@libsoftiktok What do you think it feels like to be a factory-farmed chicken? It’s easy to make fun of the suffering of others. But the suffering of chickens is as real as your suffering or mine. Please reconsider and delete.
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@Kekius_Sage Humans, no. Billions of alien state-spaces of experience await exploration. Late posthuman superintelligence? I’m sceptical - but I don’t know enough to be sure.
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Kekius Maximus
Kekius Maximus@Kekius_Sage·
Will we ever truly understand everything?
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@elonmusk Elon, please don’t. Chickens suffer - just like you or me. What humans do to nonhumans in factory-farms and slaughterhouses is evil beyond imagination. Humans should help sentient beings, not harm them. You could be a true leader of humanity and make a difference.
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
What's unclear (to me) is if there is any such thing as a "canonical" phenomenology for the medium of thought. If I take a psychedelic and play chess, there's a functional sense in which a subtle yet profound shift in the texture ("what it feels like") of the vehicle of thinking doesn't matter; I still play (and lose) against insentient software that has no phenomenal understanding that it's playing chess at all. But what if I'm studying maths or the sciences? When contemplating the universal wave function on different psychedelic agents (as was my wont), these nameless shifts in the medium of my thought bewilder me. My whole conception of reality itself changes in accordance with the ineffable shift in medium. I'm mystified which (if any) vehicle is "correct"; and if so, in what sense? And I used to worry about the generalized counterpart of the inverted spectrum argument en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_… for the entire medium of my thinking - which took me in the direction of a very radical scepticism. [These days I'm more prone to watch Instagram reels]
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
The phenomenology of my thought-episodes is thin, subtle and elusive. I lack the vocabulary within our everyday conceptual scheme to describe it. Disconcertingly, this subtle phenomenology changes if I take a psychedelic - again in ways that transcend my ability to describe. But such generic changes hint at how the nameless phenomenal medium or vehicle of our thoughts shapes their ostensible content - and hence one’s entire conception of reality.
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Shivon Zilis
Shivon Zilis@shivon·
When you think, what medium do you tend to think in? Would be very curious to hear how you’d describe the base unit(s) of your thoughts and how they feel to you. I assumed what happens in my head was similar to everyone else but have been surprised by how varied thought can be.
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@cb_doge @elonmusk Global population size isn’t projected to peak until the 2080s. And this figure assumes zero progress in AI-assisted anti-aging medicine.
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DogeDesigner
DogeDesigner@cb_doge·
Global population to shrink this century as birth rate falls. The world is set to have 200 mn fewer people than previously expected by 2100. Fertility rates have fallen below the replacement rate in most continents.
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Micah Zarin
Micah Zarin@MicahZarin·
@RokoMijic @webmasterdave David Pearce said you'd be a great guest to have on my podcast. Would love to discuss the abolitionist project or do some sort of debate. Let me know if you’d be interested :-)
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Rupert Lowe MP
Rupert Lowe MP@RupertLowe10·
I am entirely fed up tolerating the intolerable.
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@MicahZarin @anderssandberg Transhumanists hope to cheat death. But until that day arrives…? Well, I would hope my passing would at least briefly diminish the well-being of friends and loved ones. But suffer? No!
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@MicahZarin The distinction between being blissful and “blissed out” is no mere pedantry. Richer and more sophisticated signalling system than today’s evolutionary mishmash can be genetically sculpted based on gradients of sublime bliss. Alas critics of the abolitionist project miss this:
Roko 🐉@RokoMijic

A Wireheader's Apostasy If you really understand philosophy of mind it is clear that David Pearce's quest to end suffering is misguided at a logical level and also at an ethical level. Suffering is what negative feedback feels like from the inside. You can't end suffering without ending negative feedback. There can't be a clever technical fix for this, because the suffering is the negative feedback in the same way that a rainbow is sunlight reflecting off water droplets. You can't run a brain on "gradients of bliss" and have it feel blissful all the time but also produce the same distribution of outputs across all environments because feeling blissful occasionally serves a function and that function is not supposed to be on all the time - you become a wirehead. Feeling slightly less blissful will simply not motivate you to move your hand off a burning hot plate the way the burn qualia will. This is borne out empirically when you look at people born without pain receptors: they break all their bones, burn themselves, bite their own tongues off, and often die young. People who take drugs stop doing normal-person things, they turn into zombies who just seek the drug and nothing else. Why? Because the drug is a massive, artificial superstimulus of all positive reward signals that your brain's reward architecture is not designed to handle. It drowns out the subtler reward signals you get from smelling a nice flower or having a social event with friends, so you stop doing those things. This is probably why homelessness and drug addiction go hand-in-hand - if you are homeless, it's hard to fix your life and get positive feedback from normal life stimuli, so you start taking drugs to feel something. But once you are on drugs, the reward of the drug is so much bigger than the reward you could get from a normal life activity that it's not that compelling to give up drugs for those activities. It's also deeply immoral to try to turn off all negative feedback, because doing so will turn the world into a sh!thole. I would even include things like political correctness in this, as I think that is best thought of as a form of collective social wireheading. It is actually a really good thing that sick people suffer terribly. It is good that death is often painful and frightening. It is good that romantic rejection stings and makes us feel bad about ourselves. Why? Because if these negative events didn't come with negative qualia, we would not be motivated to avoid them. To be a true transhumanist you must not ask to suffer less, you must ask to suffer more accurately, to be punished more when you fail to live up to your goals and to feel a sweeter reward when you do. And to be a true humanist you must embrace suffering as a force for good in the right circumstances.

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Will Tanner
Will Tanner@Will_Tanner_1·
Europe selected against this gene for centuries by hanging about 1% of each generation in a continual, harsh effort against crime All serious crimes were capital crimes, and centuries of effort meant eventually this gene, which amounts to a crime gene, was selected against Notably, the fact that the time this process completed, around the late-18th century, was the start of the second great imperial period in European history, and hardly a peaceful period, so they managed to remain warlike and bold fighters...just without the "criminal behavior" gene The paper on this is called "Western Europe, State Formation, and Genetic Pacification"
Johannes M. Koenraadt@johannesmkx

Oh my god! 😂 There's no crime gene, but there is a "propensity to shoot and stab someone gene". It's the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene. African-Americans are 50 times more likely to carry this gene. Ahahahaaaaaaaaaahaha "Analyses revealed that African-American males who carry the 2-repeat allele are significantly more likely than all other genotypes to engage in shooting and stabbing behaviors and to report having multiple shooting and stabbing victims."

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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@kollect123 @Kekius_Sage I too lean towards consciousness fundamentalism as a (dis)solution of the Hard Problem. The world’s fundamental quantum fields don’t differ in their essential nature inside and outside the head. But phenomenally bound minds can arise only via natural selection.
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Kekius Maximus
Kekius Maximus@Kekius_Sage·
Why is consciousness so rare in the universe?
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Politic Joe
Politic Joe@joe_politic·
@webmasterdave @illevaicham @Will_Tanner_1 @elonmusk No, I'm just dismissive of you because this conversation was about personal tendencies to violence, and you thought it was relevant to bring up systems where the personal element has been intentionally removed.
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Politic Joe
Politic Joe@joe_politic·
@webmasterdave @illevaicham @Will_Tanner_1 @elonmusk Interesting that you're thinking "factory-farming" is a good example to stand up next to the Holocaust. Seems like you could have found a better second case. Also interesting that, in a paper that admits the need for further replication, you believe the paper is misleading.
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@illevaicham @Will_Tanner_1 @elonmusk Compare how highlighting Caucasian populations with an unusually high burden of Neanderthal DNA are linked to the systematised violence of factory-farming and the Holocaust. Though true, such a framing would be tendentious and misleading.
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Statuesk
Statuesk@illevaicham·
It's not pseudoscience, but a very limited study and therefore the results must be understood with caution. However, it has potential to explain why certain groups and/or cultures display levels of magnitude higher criminal behavior and especially violent deeds. Genetic difference between different human groups isn't racism. Some ethnic groups can drink (cows) milk as adults, some can't. Some has a higher iq median, some a lower. The idea that racial treats can be cultivated through quite few generations is empirically proven though countless animal breding programs and in the wild by the theory of evolution.
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David Pearce
David Pearce@webmasterdave·
@Handre @elonmusk Beware simplistic false dichotomies, i.e. socialism vs capitalism. Thus introducing universal basic income (UBI) could solve absolute poverty and homelessness while retaining the market mechanism in large swathes of the economy.
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Handre
Handre@Handre·
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