@Need4Sneed14 @gon3261 @IvanElT64853080 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews I can't tell if he's being disengenious or just dense.
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Benjamin Wilde
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@gon3261 @IvanElT64853080 @wildeb060 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews Because nobody else lives there lmao.
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🚨🇬🇧 NEW: Chile’s President has expressed his support for Argentina's claim over the Falkland Islands
Tensions between Argentina and the UK have grown recently due to expanded resource extraction activities in the territory
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@Libra_vibesss @esthercasafus @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews Likewise the Spanish have never had effective control over the Falklands, no one had until 1833. It was continually flipping between empires and being abandoned. But the British have undisputedly had the longest control and population there after 1833.
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@wildeb060 @esthercasafus @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews Before 1833, the Islas Malvinas were administered by Spain, then Argentina after independence. The UK had a small post in 1765–1774, but never had effective control over the islands until it returned in 1833 and expelled the Argentine authorities.
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@gon3261 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews And what happened to all the natives that lived in the other areas of the USA and Argentina that are now European.
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@wildeb060 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews They are living in the same territory they lived 500 years ago like the navajo in the usa
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@gon3261 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews Because there is no native nation state to claim the land as they were displaced long ago. Argentina claim the Falklands because of a Spanish colonial claim, going all the way back to the pope giving that side of the world to Spain.
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@wildeb060 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews The thing is, is there anybody claiming argentine territory? No. Is there any foreign country claiming arg land? No. Is there any group of people? No. Thats the difference 👍🏻
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@gon3261 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews Because some exist doesn't mean others weren't displaced and had their cultures erased. Native Americans in the USA still exist and have their own culture, Irish people still exist but speak English because of colonialism. But they were all also subject to brutal colonial rule.
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@wildeb060 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews They weren’t displaced. They still exist and have their own culture. You can check the information. Koyas, qom, guaranies are some examples of indigenous population that are living there with their own culture
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@HarqAl @futureisorange @intheightz Sorry we don't care what the pope says about giving Spain and Portugal colonies.
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@wildeb060 @futureisorange @intheightz You guys call yankis morons. I think is part of living in the first world, you can give yourself the luxury of just being braindead
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@Libra_vibesss @esthercasafus @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews And the British had a permanent garrison in 1766 for around 20 years which was abandoned for economic reasons but the land was still owned by Britain, and then another settlement was set up in 1833 which lasts until this day.
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@wildeb060 @esthercasafus @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews Islas Malvinas had an Argentine governor and administration until 1833, when the UK expelled them and took control.
So Argentina’s claim isn’t about “wanting British people.” It’s about a territorial dispute that started with that occupation.
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@gon3261 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews The Argentine claim, is a continuation of the Spanish claim, which in itself is a colonial claim. Oh it's called disputed when it's Europeans involved, but the natives that got wiped out in south America is fair game.
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@wildeb060 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews If you are migrating to a disputed land you are not migrating legally. The argentine claim started from the beginning of the occupation in 1833 and they did not fight back because it was a very new and small country and the uk was the first global power at that time
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@gon3261 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews Were they all christian and spoke Spanish before the Spanish arrived there?, yep there mixed people in all sorts of ex colonial nations, doesn't mean that natives weren't displaced and had their cultures erased.
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@wildeb060 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews It had gauchos living there before the brits arrived in 1833 and a governor, Julio Vernet. And the indigenous people of arg had kids with europeans. Look di maria, lautaro martinez, maradona, aguero, etc. They are mestizos (mixed blood between indigenous and europeans).
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@8AIEnthusiast9 @Owen_LewisKraus Which natives on the Falklands did the British colonize? Oh that's right there weren't any, unlike south American natives which had their culture, language and religion replaced. Yeh colonialism is bad when you genocide and exploit the natives.
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@wildeb060 @Owen_LewisKraus Spanish COLINIZERS were not good. If you even bother to think for a second, you'll realize my name is from a Native American language. You are just mixing shit up to defend MODERN British Colonialism. Colonialism is bad. Period. I won't waste any more time, have a good day!
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If that's the case, why does Argentina have an official document from 1813 from Captain Henry Jones, requesting permission to go to the Islands to hunt sea lions...?
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@SerbinPont Did you miss the part where Argentina never owned the islands? Argentina wasn't even an independent country when Brits first settled there
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@gon3261 @IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews British settlers in the Falklands migrated legally. Argentina exists because the Spanish empire displaced the locals and replaced the culture, language and religion with a European one. Unlike the Falklands which had no natives.
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@IvanElT64853080 @Need4Sneed14 @wildeb060 @PolitlcsGlobal @MercoPressNews Euros in argentina migrated legally, they bought land and properties. Very difference with english settlors that migrated to a disputed land in another continent and expelling the locals. Argentine indigenous people were not displaced, they mixed with Europeans.
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@8AIEnthusiast9 @Owen_LewisKraus Oh here we go again, justifying your colonization while berating others, classic. British settlers bad, Spanish settlers good.
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@wildeb060 @Owen_LewisKraus Yeah let's go back to 1492, makes a lot of sense, why consider modern geopolitics. Also it's nice you call them British people living there, thank you for that.
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@reportingLibya @thinkdefence Most Argentines are ready to lose 1 million people if that means recovering the islands.
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Within 5 years, the Falkland Islands will face increasing diplomatic pressure. Within 5 to 10 years, the Falkland Islands will face a credible military threat.
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@RickRational @ashleyrrd @thinkdefence Ah it's a russian bot, makes more sense now, just block and move on.
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@ashleyrrd @thinkdefence says the guy with the universal sign of retards, the Ukraine flag
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@8AIEnthusiast9 @Owen_LewisKraus Heard of something called the Spanish empire?, Argentina exists because it's a settler colony of the Spanish empire, they displaced the natives and imported Europeans on mass. The Falklands had no natives and has had British people living there for over 200 years.
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@Owen_LewisKraus Why the fuck as we arguing about possession? They are part of the Argentinian territory. There is no other argument that is valid. IT's about international law. And even considering arguments from THE MOST colonialist country in history, is just retarded.
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@1867_Owl We're actually not, we're in a far better state, we even have a troop and plane garrison on the island, and a much more modernized navy and air force. Argentina on the other hand has massively declined, they're in a far worse position, their military has aged.
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@hardware1197 @jordanjames123d @sharland57753 Who was colonized on the Falklands? It was uninhabited, unlike the USA which is literally a colonial nation, it was formed through the displacement of the natives.
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@murk946672 @joshenex @sharland57753 We're in a defensive alliance, hence why you can't trigger article 5, unlike when you triggered it after 911 and we helped, at great expense to us. You're also still using our bases to fly from right now despite us not joining your offensive war.
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@joshenex @sharland57753 I don't know, maybe because we're in an alliance and going up against genocidal Islamofascists who've lied about obtaining a nuclear weapon and vow to cause havoc as a religious pastime. But no worries, alliance over. "Cheers," I think you all say. Cheerio.
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@sharland57753 @VOSTOK63 @jordanjames123d @StuartB01466462 That's just not true is it, you're chest beating because the UK isn't helping you bomb Iran in your offensive war.
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@choculatopguy @UnBearAbull @grok @sharland57753 @kevinf567 But Cyprus was defended there were planes moved there to defend it. You're just trying to cope because the UK wouldn't help in your offensive war, that you told no one about beforehand.
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@UnBearAbull @grok @sharland57753 @kevinf567 There's also a permanent military base in Cyprus that the UK did not feel like defending after Iran shot at them.
So yeah, I don't think I'm mental at all. I think the UK are weaklings that can't defend any of their territories if they had to.
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