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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
@mugjudge @DOMA_Misconduct @The_ACNA @DioceseWGC I’m pretty sure Fr. Allberry’s position was honorary. DWGC already has a resident canon theologian. He also was ordained in the Church of England, so he has Anglican orders even if he was most recently at a non-denominational church.
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mugjudge@mugjudge·
@DOMA_Misconduct @The_ACNA @DioceseWGC Immanuel Nashville isn't even an ACNA church, right? How can someone be a canon theologian in the ACNA and be a pastor in a non-Anglicsn Church? And that's not even touching on the whole gay issue...
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Whistleblower
Whistleblower@DOMA_Misconduct·
Breaking: Fr Sam Allberry, a Gay Anglican, has been disqualified from ministry after admitting to an inappropriate homosexual relationship. His status within @the_ACNA remains unclear. Allberry is still listed, along with Fr Ray Ortlund, as a Canon Theologian in @DioceseWGC.
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WannabeAnglican@WannabeAnglican

Elders Disqualify Pastor Sam Allberry From Ministry Over ‘Inappropriate Relationship’ With Another Man churchleaders.com/news/2216873-s… via @ChurchLead

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Fr Dylan Schrader
Fr Dylan Schrader@FrDylanSchrader·
Scholars today recognize that the church bulletin is actually not the product of a single author but is instead an amalgamation of distinct (sometimes contradictory) sources redacted by one or more editors into a loosely-coherent final form.
Cecilia Cicone 🚀@cecsquared

@CaptainVatican So the most recent study done by CARA says that not only do 96% of weekly massgoers read the bulletin, so do 58% of only occasional massgoers! It’s such a cultural staple, Catholics know it’s where they need to go for the latest info even if it’s only an online bulletin

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Redeemed Zoomer
Redeemed Zoomer@redeemed_zoomer·
Ranking by food: S: Oriental Orthodox A: Catholic B: Eastern Orthodox C: Evangelical F: Protestant
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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
@semperadiuvans Ah I misunderstood you as implying that Britain still could claim America. Perhaps the two lungs of the Atlantic Ocean will reunite one day.
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Matthew J. Taylor
Matthew J. Taylor@semperadiuvans·
@wildprichard If the United States of America were to decide that this settlement was not to the best interests of her people and ammended her constitution so as to become a Commonwealth Realm, then yes Texas would be included, but that would be as a sovereign decision, not a reclamation.
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Matthew J. Taylor
Matthew J. Taylor@semperadiuvans·
A fitting message from the chief representative of our cousins across the sea. Whilst the lawful successor of British North America is, of course, the Dominion of Canada, we must also remember the British inheritance that survived the revolution south of the 49th parallel. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Rapid Response 47@RapidResponse47

.@POTUS: "Honoring the British King might seem an ironic beginning to our celebration of 250 years of American independence — but in fact, no tribute could be more appropriate. Long before Americans had a nation or Constitution, we first had a culture, a character, and a creed. Before we ever proclaimed our independence, Americans carried within us the rarest of gifts: moral courage, and it came from a small but mighty kingdom from across the sea."

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mugjudge@mugjudge·
@wildprichard @AllThingsNec Appreciate the thoughts! I guess the issue becomes from my perspective that in Anglicanism, it's not universally agreed that ordination is ontological, and it is the more common view historically that Holy Orders are neither a sacrament nor ontological.
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All Things Necessary
All Things Necessary@AllThingsNec·
Granting ordination is a sacrament, what exactly is this post suggesting? That the male body is the outward and visible sign? William Witt (an ANCA guy!) lays out in "Icons of Christ" that the necessity of being male to stand "in persona Christi" is a novel argument.
Fr. Timothy Matkin@FrMatkin

The ordination of women cannot be sacramental. By definition, a sacrament is a "sure and certain means by which we receive grace." But when you tinker with the ourward and visible sign, you take away the surety and certainty of the inward and spiritual grace.

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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
@mugjudge @AllThingsNec I think that’s fair, but would add ecclesiology to it. In somewhere like the CoE, the most ardent proponents of WO (like WATCH) don’t really have a positive dogmatic sacramentology—the arguments are exclusively negative ecclesiological arguments on discrimination, equality, etc
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mugjudge@mugjudge·
@wildprichard @AllThingsNec So I guess really the issue comes down to the issue of sacramentogy more than WO specifically, because that decides what can actually be tolerated or what is impossible.
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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
@mugjudge @AllThingsNec Yeah I found it basically impossible to hold an Anglo-Catholic dogmatic ecclesiology because the concept of validity as an existential, ontological fact has basically collapsed even where people and clerics still believe in Persona Christi. I saw this dissonance firsthand.
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mugjudge@mugjudge·
@wildprichard @AllThingsNec I agree that this is difficult to square with the ontological view, and really I guess the only way you could do so is just by asserting oikonomia or something like this.
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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
@mugjudge @DOMA_Misconduct @AllThingsNec Ah, that’s good. Witt makes a very compelling negative argument, but ultimately I find his positive argument for WO to lack authority. The effect is that he tears the system down and leaves it exposed. He’s not an Anglo-Catholic, which I was, so that might explain the dissonance
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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
@mugjudge @DOMA_Misconduct @AllThingsNec Have you read Witt? I appreciate his historical work but find it a bit nihilistic. I’m convinced that WO must be looked at from dogmatic ecclesiology. Ironically, I think the Anglo-Catholics understand this more than the Catholics until WO happened. Now it seems the opposite.
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mugjudge
mugjudge@mugjudge·
@DOMA_Misconduct @AllThingsNec Simply: the outward sign is the ability to signify eminence of degree, which women cannot do due to their civil subjection for Aquinas. A lot of modern anti-WO proponents would not follow him on this point, but it's where his entire argument rests.
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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
@mugjudge @AllThingsNec For Catholics, the idea that one diocese could ordain women while others refuse is nonsense because of validity is related to ontological order. But for Anglican, this isn’t a novel argument either. C.B. Moss argued this in 1957 without mentioning Persona Christi.
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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
I wonder if Jim Crane is paying attention to John Henry? An Astros loss today and surely moves are made?
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Whistleblower
Whistleblower@DOMA_Misconduct·
I've seen enough. Progressive parishes in @the_ACNA are moving to "flip" @DioceseWGC, "threatening to leave" if their candidate isn't elected bishop. On women priests (not ordained there), he waffles: "I'm not settled on that." "I'm open." "My mom was an Episcopal priest."
Whistleblower@DOMA_Misconduct

DWGC Update: A member of the Episcopal Nominations Team confirms parishes are "threatening to leave" over women's right to preach at Eucharistic services. The threats reportedly came after the original candidate, Fr Sharpe, indicated he wouldn't support the practice. @the_ACNA

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Wilder Prichard
Wilder Prichard@wildprichard·
@DOMA_Misconduct @The_ACNA @DioceseWGC Sure, but Anglican bishops (and priests) have just completely changed their minds before without even trying to be consistent. It's always a possibility, which is why DWGC has their view in the Constitution. Speculating about how he'd vote in Assembly is just that: speculation.
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Whistleblower
Whistleblower@DOMA_Misconduct·
@wildprichard @The_ACNA @DioceseWGC Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt, he's left himself enough wiggle room to reverse his position later on after being elected bishop. (I am not accusing him of 'lying'.)
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