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So this was supposed to be a 3-4 years timeframe 😭

@awawawhoami Gen Z is like 96-10? So Early Gen Zs like me are in our mid-late 20s haha.

@kmdonyt Honestly how did it even make it to live servers. I have no idea why killer slowdown perks need to be so gimped when they release new gen speed perks every patch it feels like.

this is gonna be dbd for the next few weeks implying they nerf this shit on bugfix because what the actual fuck

@hopfiIms S4 was such an amazing season and set up a Vecna who was angry with a post apocalyptic Hawkins… and instead we got the gates being covered with metal, Vecna killing a bunch of soldiers then proceeding to do absolutely nothing, no major deaths and him going down like a bitch.

It’s like the darkness of st4 disappeared out of nowhere

@jiggyjayy2 Those are two consenting adults above the age of 21 who cares. I’d date a 30 year old if we had stuff in common and I’m 24. That’s not really that insane. Something like 18 and 30 yeah I’d side-eye a bit

No 30 and 24 is quite insane friend

@GeneralTopology @tinman603 @levirelates I meant (1/4)(9+8). I’ll be honest I read the whole thing as over 4 because of how it’s written at first because naturally I just read anything before a division sign as a fraction atp

@tinman603 @zoewithlotsofes @levirelates Only when working with numerical expressions. In algebra, the expression 3x + 8 ÷ 2x is ambiguous. Strict left to right with operator priority would give 3x + 4x. A more common algebra interpretation would yield 3x + 4/x. zoe seems to want 3/2+4/x, which is a stretch.

I can confirm the answer to this 4th grade problem is 11

@Math_files Fun fact. We can generalise the notion of a factorial of natural numbers using the gamma function! So you can take the factorial of any complex number except for non positive integers. For instance, (1/2)! = Γ(1/2) = sqrt(π) The gamma function is used a ton in statistics.

The factorial of a number grows extremely fast because each step multiplies by a larger number. The factorial of n, written as n!, means multiplying all whole numbers from 1 to n. For example: 3! = 6, 5! = 120, 10! = 3,628,800. Notice how quickly the numbers explode. Each new step multiplies the previous result by a bigger value. Because of this rapid growth, factorials become enormous even for modest numbers. Factorials appear in combinatorics and probability, especially when counting the number of possible arrangements or permutations.

@GeneralTopology @tinman603 @levirelates Im curious because the distributive property gives us a(b+c) = ab+ac. I’ll admit the intention of the expression is likely to get 11, but I do think this is still quite poorly written thanks to the ÷ symbol and lack of brackets around 8 and 4. It’s easy to confuse with 1/4(3^2+8)

@zoewithlotsofes @tinman603 @levirelates The standard order of operations predated computers by hundreds of years. The convention of multiplication having a higher precedence over addition comes from the distributive property. This convention allows for two entities to arrive at the same answer.

@Anthony_Bonato Source: it came to me in a dream

The dark side of π

@EddyDen57874 @levirelates Wolfram alpha is coded to give a particular solution The division sign is entirely the issue here. a/b denotes a fraction. So I gave you 3^2+8/4 a = 3^2 + 8 =17, b = 4, yielding 17/4. If you interpret the division sign as 8 x 4^-1. Then yes, you get 9 + 2 =11. It’s ambiguous

@zoewithlotsofes @levirelates you have a degree in math but you fail to turn a linear question into a CORRECT fraction? 3²+8÷4= 9+2=11 In fraction 8 3²+----=11 4 Give your degree back. Probably still don't understand so here is wolfram alpha.. Or do you think you know better than them too?

@davidheel5duuh @levirelates The issue with the second one is that it’s just poorly written. If you were to read the second left to right you could legitimately argue that the second is 7b because there’s no bracket. The first has no ambiguity at all, though.

@zoewithlotsofes @levirelates I don’t see why we should treat 5+2b as different from 5+2*b

@SilverArrow118 @tinman603 @levirelates And that rule is precisely there as an arbitrary convention because the algebraic expression presented, thanks to the division sign used, can yield two answers depending on how it’s read.

@zoewithlotsofes @tinman603 @levirelates Sure, in advanced mathematics. This is basic principles and whether you like it or not, there’s an internally consistent rule about how equations at THAT level are written

@tinman603 @levirelates Computers are good at doing what they are programmed to do. BODMAS is a largely arbitrary convention designed so computers can output a solution. The point is the equation, as presented, is poorly written and exposes the flaws of left to right KS2 notation.

@zoewithlotsofes @levirelates Because changing it to completely different equations yields different solutions? As written, the answer is 11. Type that shit into a TI83 exactly how it's written, and you will get 11.

@SilverArrow118 @tinman603 @levirelates This is precisely why we don’t use the division sign and instead write division operations using fractions or multiplication with inverse powers

@zoewithlotsofes @tinman603 @levirelates If your fraction was the problem’s intent, there would be a second set of parentheses encompassing everything before the division sign. Since there isn’t, PEMDAS indicates 8/4 is the intended division element of the equation

@tinman603 @levirelates This is exactly why it’s poorly written

@zoewithlotsofes @levirelates Again, you changed the equation. 9+2=11 See, I can do that, too.

@EddyDen57874 @levirelates Actually no. If I give you a fraction: 3^2 + 8 ———— 4 There is absolutely no ambiguity here whatsoever. It’s 17/4. This expression doesn’t use a fraction though. It’s poorly written. Also I did go to school, in fact I have a degree in maths. :)

@zoewithlotsofes @levirelates Wow you are stupid.... In math you solve what you see, not how much can F it up by placing brackets in totally dumb places.... did you ever go to school? I doubt it! The answer is 11 ONLY...

@tinman603 @levirelates Actually no. If I give you a fraction: 3^2 + 8 ———— 4 There is absolutely no ambiguity here whatsoever. It’s 17/4. This expression doesn’t use a fraction though. It’s poorly written.

@zoewithlotsofes @levirelates The first one only gets 4.25 because you added an extra set of parentheses that wasn't there.

@davidheel5duuh @levirelates This isn’t written with juxtaposition, though. Honestly this is why we use fractional notation because if the division were instead a / there is absolutely no ambiguity at all, it’s just 17/4.

@zoewithlotsofes @levirelates In a ring you always assume multiplication is first if you write it out with juxtaposition

@GOREJ1RA Get my beloved spoon magician out of B tier and into S. It literally has a brain so big it has to hold it up with its immense telekenetic power

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